Evolution fact or fiction?

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do you believe we evolved from monkeys?

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trofimus

trofimus

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kaylagrl said:
So Darwin didn't believe "negros" were closer to the ape family? And women not as smart as men?
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I dont know about Darwin (you know how many "legends" are about him in christian circles, right?), his book "About the origin of species" is a book full of God and seeking for the flood, it was incredibly "hijacked" by atheists for no reason.

Evolution as a scientific theory does not say we are from monkeys, but that monkeys and humans have the same point of evolution in the past, because we have similar bodies. Thats all.

And yes, inside the human species there are three main races - europoids/caucasoids, mongoloids and negroids, There are differences between them. But the differences are a politically sensitive topic so let us better drop that :)
I think that all the differences are in the range of elasticity inside a kind, dependent on a cultural development for thousands of years and on the location, for example changing of the seasons made ppl living in such location more effectively thinking to survive.
 
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1 Cor 2:14, "The things of the Spirit of God,.......they are spiritually discerned"

All that I write is meant to make your faith stronger.

What you write makes my faith stronger. I have learned a great deal here, and I have been wrong too!

Please do not be offended if I ask the hard questions, or if I disagree.

I want the same thing from you.

Brother John
 
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RobbyEarl

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I believe in he big bang God spoke and bang there it was.
 
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kedge

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Bias. You need to ask this question to the genral public and on neutral grounds, go on an atheist forum and ask them if God exists, ha.
 
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kedge

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Tintin said:
Oh, for the love of God!
Scripture interprets Scripture.
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This is very challenging, how can scripture interpret itself? only human beings can explain the meaning of a Sacred writing or to conceptualize what is written in the Holy Bible.


The whole Bible speaks to a young creation.
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Or somebody has interpreted a young creation.
 
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kedge

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trofimus said:
inside the human species there are three main races - europoids/caucasoids, mongoloids and negroids.
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Races is mankinds concept, the Bible only speaks of nations, people and tongues (manner of speeking) There is only one human race and variation within that kind.
 
trofimus

trofimus

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kedge said:
Races is mankinds concept, the Bible only speaks of nations, people and tongues (manner of speeking) There is only one human race and variation within that kind.
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Czech, Polish, German, Austrian nations - various nations, various languages, one race. Race is more general concept than nations or tongues.
Bible does not speak about electrons, but still, electrons exist. Let us not misuse Bible.
 
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abcdef

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Brother tooldtocare,

If there is some symbolism in the creation story, isn't our debate really about what is symbolic and what is not?

Brother John
 
e_v_e

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The question is off...the body did come from monkey dna....but we did not evolve, since we are souls, not this body. So.. I could not take the poll...since "we" did not evolve although the fallen body did somewhat evolve.
 
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e_v_e

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The question is off...the body did come from monkey dna....but His Souls do not evolve, they not bodies. So.. I could not take the poll...since "we" did not evolve although the fallen body did somewhat evolve.
 
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Tintin

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e_v_e said:
The question is off...the body did come from monkey dna....but we did not evolve, since we are souls, not this body. So.. I could not take the poll...since "we" did not evolve although the fallen body did somewhat evolve.
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You're not making sense. Please elaborate.
 
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kedge

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tooldtocare said:
I'm here reading the posts. If you want a serious debate, have at it

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How is it possible to have a serious debate that would be based on the unobservable and unrepeatable prehistoric past? the whole premise is flawed from the outset. Millions of years of evolution is guesswork, and also no person observed God creating anything :D. In my honest opinion one can only go by what is observable today, but what does the evidence really support? I know what I see and it can be repeated and proven beyond any doubt. One can follow the guidance of another and make things as simple as it can be or one can make it as complex as one wants it to be. I think some just want things to be profound rather than simple. Was it not Jesus Christ who said to keep things simple? did Jesus not say The eye is the lamp of the body? Keep it simple; you are the equipment?.
 
trofimus

trofimus

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kedge said:
Yeah, that would be one human race :D.

You mean misinterpret it? and as I have said before, here is the problem with christianity as a whole.
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One European race. Polish and German are the same race, Nigerian is not. But this discussion is meaningless, because its an accepted fact.

To misinterpret is taking a biblical verse and to say it teaches something it in fact does not. Like "day in Genesis must mean 24 hours".

To misuse Bible is to argue "by Bible" where in fact there is no connection to biblical teaching, like "there is not planet Merkur, because Bible does not tell us so".
 
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kedge

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trofimus said:
One European race. Polish and German are the same race, Nigerian is not.
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I simply do not agree, we simply beg to differ on the matter.

But this discussion is meaningless, because its an accepted fact.
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It's accepted as fact by secular society perhaps. To me it does not matter where on this earth anyone lives, the point i'm making is we are a one human race. Splitting it and calling it races can lead to one race superior over another, actually if you research you will find that this has been the case. A man living in nigeria is the same as a man living in new york city or china or london

To misinterpret is taking a biblical verse and to say it teaches something it in fact does not. Like "day in Genesis must mean 24 hours".
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Well yeah, I don't get your point though and how that might relate to anything I have said?

To misuse Bible is to argue "by Bible" where in fact there is no connection to biblical teaching.
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I sort of agree, as mentioned by others elsewhere on the religious internet :) the term race as applied to people does not appear in the Holy Bible.


That is all really nothing spectacular just something for others to ponder perhaps?



Take care people
 
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AboundingGrace

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tooldtocare said:
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I once believed in evolution but now I have my doubts. Gorillas of ancient times are still Gorillas today. They have not changed. Nor has plant life or the birds that fly in the sky.

What I believed happened is that we were visited by universe travelers who seed planets that can support life. Just as we will do in the far off future. Even in our life time when our astronauts visit Mars we will leave some DNA behind.

Comments welcome
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And, were those universe travelers independently seeded by previous other universe travelers? The seed trail going backward on to infinity. No one ever knowing who started it all.

That idea is so uncertain. How much more easier and certain to pick up the Bible which says that the Eternal Creator of all things spoke all things into existence, and rather than there being the universal cosmic absent fathers to a planet of orphans, the Creator is ever present to love us as our Father, and to provide for us.

I certainly have no intention of compounding the irresponsibility of some supposed traveling cosmic non-parental parents by personally making more other terrestrial orphans as I go my merry way.
 
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BeyondET

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things not written like the use of minutes and seconds which stopping the sun and adjusting the shadow ten degrees doesn't compute minutes and seconds in my view.. though some bible scholars say yes odd indeed I scratch on that for sure.. or like looking at Mars threw a good telescope is pretty cool but that planet isn't in scripture.
 
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abcdef

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Brother BeyondET,

If men create "life" from chemicals, will people give up on God?
 
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