Israel’s Final Restoration

oldhermit · May 22, 2016

Many times. I have spent many hours teaching these texts.

eternally-gratefull · May 22, 2016

Matt 24 is about the things which Jesus just spoke of (the destruction of Jerusalem, and the temple) the end of the age (the end of Gentile dominion) and the return of Christ.

The abomination of desolation has not happened yet. And jesus even said many things have to occure first.. (nation will rise against nation, kingdom against kingdom. Famine disease, massive earthquakes in carius places etc etc. But that those things were just the beginning of sorrows. The abomination was the event which would start the great tribulation off. Happening after these "birth pangs" take place.

The legs are the 4th kingdom. Which is strong, but splits into the feet. The legs were fulfilled by rome aty the time of Christ, Which split into two divisions, and eventually fell,

the feet have not yet occurred (the things the feet were said to do have yet to occur)

I use the NKJV or NASB most of the time, sometimes the newer ESV, but I usually stick to NKJV, Anything I use here will be NKJV

eternally-gratefull · May 22, 2016

I just bumped a study I did on Daniel and his four beasts Found also here

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/54681-daniels-4-beasts.html

oldhermit · May 23, 2016

abcdef said:

Considering the many faceted arguments that are bound to be arrayed against this view of Danial's interpretation of this image, I think it prudent that I first simply apply Danial's interpretation to the successive unfolding of human history from the time of Danial to the time of the fourth kingdom and address whatever questions that you may have concerning this. I think this will be much easier than trying to anticipate questions ahead of time. What this does is establish a divinely appointed time line of fulfillment. Once we have done this we can examine the “stone that was cut out of the mountain without hands” and the “kingdom which will never be destroyed.”

The Four Kingdoms
A. What are the four kingdoms?

1. Head of gold – Babylon
2. Arms and chest of silver – Medo-Persian Empire
3. Waist of Bronze – The Greecian Empire
4. Legs of iron and feet of clay – Rome

B. When did these kingdoms come into power?
These four kingdoms must be accepted according to the strict definition given by Daniel as to what defied these kingdoms in verses 36-38.

1. Danial identifies Babylon as the point of reference for the beginning of this imagery. Babylon was at this time the dominate world power. The time of Dan chapter two was about 571 BC.
2. The Medo-Persian Empire then became the dominate world power in about 539 BC when it conquered Babylon.
3. The Medo-Persians were then defeated by Alexander the Great in about 331 BC thus establishing the Grecian Empire as the dominate world power.
4. The rise of the Roman Empire as the fourth kingdom of Nebuchadnezzar's dream gained world diminance in 64 BC
This being the fourth kingdom represented in the image as the legs of iron and the feet of clay marked the time of the establishment of the“kingdom which will never be destroyed” for it was in the days of these kings that this would happen.

abcdef · May 23, 2016

oldhermit said:

Brother oldhermit,

In Dan 2:44, I 'm looking at the parts of this verse and have not been able to confirm there exact meaning.

1. The kingdom (Israel with the gift of the Holy Spirit, Pentecost onward)

2. Is "set up"
Beginning-Pentecost?

3. If we look at the legs of iron and identify them as Rome, I think the kingdom would have begun (Pentecost) shortly after the iron begins. This would be before the legs divide.

This would be in agreement with the "break in pieces" (divide the Roman Empire) legs and toes

And the "consume" (the kingdom's conversion of the statue through the gospel)

The establishment of the kingdom would cause this.

4. But then, if you say this happens (set up,begins, Pentecost) at the stone striking in connection with v 25 (chaff), you must say that the kingdom (Pentecost) begins at the stone striking. I don't see this as a possibility, but that's why i'm discussing this.

5. When it says "in the days of these kings", it doesn't say "10" kings, it only says kings.

6. This seems to open the possibility that the phrase may apply to the whole statue, not just the toes.

7.This would allow for the Kingdom to be established (set up, begin) just after the beginning of the iron.

8. But then the stone cannot be the kingdom that is established on Pentecost.

9. I believe that the stone is showing the end of this planet,

10. The chaff being blown v35 away is Rev 20:11, after the last judgement

I'm not pre-trib, Or a literal 1,000 yr ,
I'm 2 resurrection, 1 Cor 15:23-28

What are your thoughts on this?

oldhermit · May 23, 2016

Let me get back with you a little later. I am trying to get a number of other things done so if I do not respond to you promptly do not think I have forgotten you.

abcdef · May 23, 2016

oldhermit said:

Brother oldhermit,

I'm busy all week too, and it takes some time to think about these things anyway.

Just take your time.

oldhermit · May 23, 2016

abcdef said:

I think you are actually very close.
The antecedent of "in the days of these kings" is the ones Daniel had just discussed in 40-43 and cannot therefore imply the statue as a whole. The days of THOSE kings was the days of a divided and brittle Roman Empire and the kingdom was "set up" within less than 100 years after Rome came into power. That is quite early in the history of Roman. Of course, some may argue that Rome was not a true Empire until 27 BC with the crowing of Augustus Caesar as Emperor, and that is fine. I would have no problem with that. I merely stated 64 BC because this was when Rome finally crushed Syria. If we choose 27 BC as the formal beginning of the Roman Empire then the Kingdom of which Daniel speaks would have been established only about sixty years after Rome became a world power. That would have then been early indeed.

You may want to bear in mind that the feet of clay (which includes the toes) is represented as one kingdom that was divided, not as separate kingdoms.

I believe that the events of Pentecost mark the establishment of the Kingdom of which Daniel spoke. It is interesting to note that before the time of the coming of John the kingdom was always represented as something that was coming at some future time. In the time of John and Jesus the Kingdom was spoken of as something that was “at hand” because its “time is fulfilled.” The time in question is the time of which Daniel had spoken regarding when this Kingdom would be set up. From Acts 2 onward, the kingdom is always spoken of as something that is a present reality. If the kingdom was not set up in "the days of these kings" then either Daniel misrepresented the image or both John and Jesus misunderstood Daniel. The setting up of the kingdom was represented by Daniel as “a stone cut out without hands.” We know that Isaiah 8:14 identifies Messiah as the Stone of stumbling and the Rock of offense. Jesus was the Stone that was rejected by the builders who came in the days of these kings. The coming of this kingdom would mark the end of the four kingdoms represented in Nebuchadnezzar's vision. All of these four kingdoms have ceased to exist, blown away like chaff.

abcdef · May 23, 2016

oldhermit said:

Brother oldhermit,

Thanks for that info., I understand you better now.

When I look at the statue, to me it is the gentile nations that Israel was subject to, until they were restored to Jerusalem, the physical city.

But when Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 ad that was only "half" the story of the statue ( Dan 12:5-7,7), the first 3 1/2 times.

The 2nd, 3 1/2 ts, was the times of the gentiles, 70 ad until now?

Wasn't that what many of the writings of Daniel were about? The physical city?
I mean, that was the question of "the day" in Babylon.
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Here is where the problem starts for me, I'm not so sure that the stone striking is Pentecost,the beginning of the kingdom.

1. The nations like the Roman Empire didn't disappear at Pentecost.

2. What is the chaff?
This "chaff" to me indicates harvest, which I associate with the resurrection (2nd, the last),
When it is blown away this would be seen in Rev 20:11,

3. The "stone" that became a "mountain and filled the whole earth", would be parallel with Rev 21:10. The stone "becomes" the new earth, (Jesus in heaven).

4. If the statue represents nations, the stone grinds the nations to "chaff", only the people of the kingdom are left.
Isn't that showing the "finished" kingdom after the 2nd res.?

5. The kingdom must be around during the time of the time of the statue in order to break it in pieces and devour the statue.
It is the Kingdom that causes the legs and toes nations to "break" apart.

I won't get too much going at once, it ruins the focus issues.

I'm just sharing my ideas about these things.

Brother John

oldhermit · May 23, 2016

abcdef said:

Brother oldhermit,

Thanks for that info., I understand you better now.

When I look at the statue, to me it is the gentile nations that Israel was subject to, until they were restored to Jerusalem, the physical city.

But when Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 ad that was only "half" the story of the statue ( Dan 12:5-7,7), the first 3 1/2 times.

The 2nd, 3 1/2 ts, was the times of the gentiles, 70 ad until now?

Wasn't that what many of the writings of Daniel were about? The physical city?
I mean, that was the question of "the day" in Babylon.
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Here is where the problem starts for me, I'm not so sure that the stone striking is Pentecost,the beginning of the kingdom.

1. The nations like the Roman Empire didn't disappear at Pentecost.

2. What is the chaff?
This "chaff" to me indicates harvest, which I associate with the resurrection (2nd, the last),
When it is blown away this would be seen in Rev 20:11,

3. The "stone" that became a "mountain and filled the whole earth", would be parallel with Rev 21:10. The stone "becomes" the new earth, (Jesus in heaven).

4. If the statue represents nations, the stone grinds the nations to "chaff", only the people of the kingdom are left.
Isn't that showing the "finished" kingdom after the 2nd res.?

5. The kingdom must be around during the time of the time of the statue in order to break it in pieces and devour the statue.
It is the Kingdom that causes the legs and toes nations to "break" apart.

I won't get too much going at once, it ruins the focus issues.

I'm just sharing my ideas about these things.

Brother John

LOL. I don't think you realize just how much material you are trying to cover here. For now, let's just address the 3 1/2 times and we will come back to the other things later. I'll be back later on.

oldhermit · May 23, 2016

The problem I generally run into discussing this topic with people on line is that there are so may gaps in ideas. What it boils down to is a lack of continuity. I am not sure I know how to deal with this problem short of conducting a systematic study of Daniel and that would be quite impossible in this type of setting. Perhaps instead of trying to connect all of the dots right now we should first get all the information organized and then see how the pieces fit together. You are quite correct that Daniel deals with the issues of the last days throughout this entire book. The question I would like to put before right now is what does scripture depict as the last days? If we could look at this first then perhaps we begin to build some continuity in the study of Daniel. What do you think?

abcdef · May 23, 2016

oldhermit said:

Brother oldhermit,

Like I said, I don't want to dilute the discussion points.

But I thought that I would give you a general idea of the questions that I have.

It's important to remain focused.

Please don't be upset about my exploring the possibilities.

Rondonmon · May 23, 2016

Persuaded said:

Daniels 70 Weeks Prophecy is all about Israel being Restored:

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]One of the most remarkable and important prophecies in the Bible is found in Daniel 9:24-27. It is the cornerstone of Messianic prophecy because it establishes the timing of both the First and Second Advents of the Messiah.[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The prophecy is usually referred to as "The 70 Weeks of Years." This name derives from the opening words of most English translations: "Seventy weeks have been decreed" (Daniel 9:24). In the Hebrew, the word translated "weeks" is actually the word "sevens." So, the text actually says, "Seventy sevens have been decreed . . ."

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Just as the English word "dozen" can refer to a dozen of anything, the Hebrew word shavuim, meaning "sevens," can refer to seven of anything. Its exact meaning is dependent upon the context. In this key passage from Daniel, the context makes it clear that he is speaking of years — seventy sevens of years, which would be a total of 490 years. It is therefore appropriate to refer to the prophecy as "The 70 Weeks of Years" even though those exact words are not found in the passage itself.[/FONT]

[h=3][FONT=Arial,Helvetica] [SIZE=+1]The Jewish Context and Goals[/SIZE][/FONT][/h][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Another important thing to keep in mind about the context of the passage is that it is directed to the Jewish people. The opening words of the prophecy make this clear: "Seventy weeks have been declared for your people and your holy city . . ." (Daniel 9:24, ). The focus of the prophecy is the nation of Israel and the city of Jerusalem.[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The prophecy begins by stating that six things will be accomplished regarding the Jewish people during a period of 490 years:
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]• "Finish the transgression"[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]• "Make an end of sin"[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]• "Make atonement for iniquity"[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]• "Bring in everlasting righteousness"[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]• "Seal up vision and prophecy"[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]• "Anoint the most holy place"

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Let's take a moment to consider the meaning of these six prophecies. The first, "finish the transgression," refers to the Jew's rejection of God. The Hebrew word translated "transgression" connotes the idea of rebellion, and the rebellion of the Jewish people is their rejection of Jesus as their Messiah. Jesus said He would not return until the Jewish people are willing to say, "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord" (Matthew 23:37-39). The Jews will open their hearts to their Messiah before Daniel's 490 year period ends.

[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica] The period will also witness an "end of sin" for the Jews. The word translated "sin" refers to the sins of daily life — sins of dishonesty and immorality. This end of sin will occur at the time the Jews accept their Messiah and His earthly reign of righteousness begins.

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]An atonement for Israel's sins is the third thing that will happen during Daniel's 70 weeks of years. This atonement occurred, of course, when Jesus shed His blood on the Cross for the sins of the world. But that atonement will not actually be applied to the Jews until they appropriate it by accepting Jesus as their Messiah.

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The 490 year period will also 'bring in everlasting righteousness." This undoubtedly refers to the establishment of the Messiah's earthly reign when the earth will be flooded with peace, righteousness and justice as the waters cover the sea.

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The fifth achievement will be the fulfillment of all prophecy concerning the Messiah. The Apostle Peter referred to two types of Messianic prophecy — those related to "the sufferings of Christ" and those concerning "the glories to follow" (1 Peter 1:11). The suffering prophecies were all fulfilled at the Cross. The prophecies concerning "the glories to follow" are yet to be fulfilled. Just as Jesus was humiliated in history, He is going to be glorified in history. This will occur when the Jews accept Him, and He returns to reign over the world from Mt. Zion in Jerusalem.

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The final goal to be achieved at the end of the 70 weeks of years is "the anointing of the most holy." Most English translations say "the most holy place." The Hebrew simply says, "the most holy." Commentators therefore differ as to whether this is a reference to the anointing of the Messiah as King of kings or whether it is talking about the anointing of the Millennial Temple described in Ezekiel 40-48. Either way the anointing will not take place until the Lord returns in response to the national repentance of the Jews.[/FONT]
[h=3][FONT=Arial,Helvetica] [/FONT][/h][h=3][SIZE=+1]The Events of the 70 Weeks of Years[/SIZE][/h][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Daniel's prophecy next states that the 490 years will be divided into three periods as follows: seven weeks (49 years) plus sixty-two weeks (434 years) plus one week (7 years). He states that at the end of the first two periods (69 weeks or 483 years), the Messiah will be "cut off," a seemingly clear reference to the crucifixion. He then states that both Jerusalem and the Temple will be destroyed.

[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The prophecy concludes by focusing on the last week of years. It says that following the death of the Messiah and the destruction of Jerusalem, "the prince who is to come" will make a covenant with the Jewish people that will enable them to reinstitute their sacrificial system. This prince will come from the same people who destroyed the Temple (the Romans).

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]We know from 2 Thessalonians 2 that this ''prince who is to come" is the Antichrist, the "man of lawlessness" who is "the son of destruction." The same passage makes it clear that his covenant will enable the Jews to rebuild their Temple.

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Both passages — Daniel 9 and 2 Thessalonians 2 — establish the fact that in the middle of this 70th week (3½ years into it) this "prince who is to come" will double cross the Jewish people. He will march into the rebuilt Temple and declare himself to be God. He will stop the sacrifices and he will erect "an abomination of desolation," most likely an idol of himself. The book of Revelation specifies that the Messiah will return to earth 3½ years after this desolation of the Temple takes place.

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Now we have the timing of the two advents of the Messiah. He will come the first time at the end of 483 years and will be "cut off" before the Temple is destroyed. He will return the second time at the end of a seven year period that will begin with a treaty that allows the Jews to rebuild their Temple and reinstitute the Mosaic system of sacrifices.[/FONT]
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oldhermit · May 23, 2016

abcdef said:

No, I am not upset at all. It is just that to answer your questions is going to require much more that a yes or no answer or a simple one-line statement. There is so much ground work that needs to be laid and I am not sure where to begin so that it does not become confusing.

abcdef · May 23, 2016

oldhermit said:

I have studied some, and I don't think that we are really that far apart on some issues.

This thread is about the restoration of Israel.

Maybe we should just talk about it some to understand each other a little bit better, maybe try to find some common ground to build on.

I'm interested in learning and exchanging ideas.

You said you were going to comment on the 3 1/2 t's, you read what I thought, what do you think?

oldhermit · May 23, 2016

abcdef said:

I think that is a good idea. I am certain that there will be some who may post opposing arguments about things I say but for the sake of the flow of our discussion, I will not respond to posts made by other members. This will help keep our conversation on track. If it is alright with you, I will post a response to the 3 1/2 years sometime in the morning. I do not have a class to teach this week so I can afford to devote a little time to this.

oldhermit · May 23, 2016

Let me ask you this John; What do you think of the book of Revelation? Do you see these things as yet future, as things already fulfilled, or are you unsure?

abcdef · May 23, 2016

oldhermit said:

Revelation is not linear in it's time line.

It is primarily about Israel, the gospel, the beast (Rome), the resurrection, the revealing of Jesus, and eternity.

The human souls seen with Jesus, were all resurrected with Jesus at His res. (1st). They are seen in heaven with Him in 96 ad.

24 elders, 5th seal martyrs, 144,000, MTNMC#, those who live and reign CH 20
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Ch 4-11, These things happen to Israel, not the whole planet.

7 seals, Pentecost until the Destruction of Jerusalem, 70 ad

7 trumpets, 70 ad until the coming of Jesus, the resurrection, and eternity begins (7th, last trump).

The little book is the book sealed in Dan 12:4 until 96 ad, it is the story of Israel's 2nd 3 1/2 t's, of the gentiles.

The 2 witnesses are Israel (natural branches),

from Pentecost (measure), through the times of the gentiles Lk 21:24 (witness in sackcloth),

they are restored to the physical city of Jerusalem (present),

where they are killed (nation),

Then the appearance of Jesus, the resurrection and the end of this planet

Pentecost thru the resurrection, eternity begins.
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Ch 12, The dragon has 7 heads and 10 horns in association with the beast of ch 17.

The Dragon (Rome, Herod) waits for Jesus to be born, Jesus is resurrected to heaven where on the Day of Pentecost Satan is thrown down, (kingdom, salvation is come). Rome chases Israel with a flood of people, but is limited.

Ch 13, The sea beast is gentile Rome, The earth beast is gentile religious Rome.

The religion of Rome was Caesar worship, Caesar is god, man is god, worship the creation instead of the creator (tower of Babylon).

The sea beast dies (Roman Empire, 7th head), the earth beast (8th head) continues in the form of Rome, with the same religion (image, Caesar worship, RCC).

666 is the mark of Caesar, it is a number of power.

600 Satan
.60 Rome
..6 Caesar
666 in one man, you "count" it every time you say it.

Ch 14 The declarations, v 1-13
v14-16,a picture of the 1st res.
v17-20, the times of the gentiles, or the situation in 96 ad

Ch 15-16, 96 ad thru the end of the planet

Ch 17, The description of Rome

Ch 18, The prophecy of the end of the Roman empire, (sea beast)

Ch 19, The picture of defeat of the sea beast by the preaching of the gospel (sword).

CH 20, 1st res. Jesus, lives and reigns in heaven, reigns in the kingdom on earth through the Bible.
Again the restoration of Israel to Jerusalem is seen.
The dragon v2 is Rome.
we are at the very end of the "mill."
Judgement of ALL souls.
This heaven and earth, fly away into the "void", the deep(Gen 1:2).

Ch 21-22, eternity with God, completely spiritual, nothing physical

I did have to leave out a few details, ha ha

Brother John

oldhermit · May 24, 2016

This is actually pretty good. Better than I had hoped. It would seem we are not so far apart. The areas in red are those with which I agree. Those in green, I partially agree. Those not highlighted, I am in disagreement. I think this it would be a good idea if you and I spent some time looking at the book of Revelation together. Particularly in the areas where we may not necessarily agree.

The reason I had asked about your views on Revelation was because it would have a bearing on what texts I used to answer your question about the 3 1/3 years.

abcdef said:

Jerusalem, not Rome.

Rondonmon · May 24, 2016

abcdef said:

Wow, that is very spread out as per a timeline brother. I don't like to disagree with others opinions, we all have our opinions, I will just give mine on Revelation. People who focus on disagreements only, seem to be hostile, LOL. I like to be positive.

I think, and I will be brief, Revelation 1-3 is Jesus of course speaking to the Seven Churches of Asia Minor. Chapters 4-10 and 13-16 are the 21 Judgments of God, the Seal/Trump/Vial Judgments. Chapter 11 is he Two witnesses story which happens for the 1260 Days the Beast is a dictator, or final 3 1/2 years of the Beasts' reign. Chapter 12 is the Story of the Woman (Israel) birthing Christ Jesus, the Dragon (Satan) trying to kill him, then Jesus ascending to the Right hand of God, Michael throwing Satan out right before the Great Tribulation and trying to come against Israel, whom God is protecting.

Chapters 17 and 18 is the Judgments of two entities, the first, the Great Harlot is the Judgment of All False Religion, People get this confused as being Mystery Babylon, but i has Four descriptors, Mystery, (COMMA) Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth. Each describes False Religion or the Headquarters of false religion. Rome was also hinted at, it was the headquarters for false religion in Johns time. We know it can not be the RCC because she had the blood of both the Saints and Martyrs of Jesus on her hands, so she was of Old and New (in Johns time) She rides the back of the Beast, because she has been a part of every Beast System, from the very beginning,

The Beast that was, is not, yet is....Is Satan himself, he was of the Seven, this could only be Satan, hence he was (over these Beast Systems by absentia) but was not, yet is, he is the 8th King which will possess the 7th King (The Anti-Christ) who is King but a Short Time (3 1/2 years) then gets possessed by Satan.

Rev. 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

{{ The Kings in league with the Beast destroy the Harlot, BUT WHY ? Because the Anti-Christ/Beast desires to be the Only GOD...He will demand worship, hence he destroys the Harlot (All False Religions) Islam will be destroyed and subjugated, along wit all religions, he will demand Worship, and will come after Israel (Rev. 12) but God protects her, and he then goes after the Remnant of Her Seed, those People who were left, then became Christians, thus she is a Remnant of the Seed (Jesus). Remember, Chapter 17 is a Judgment against the Harlot. Verse 17 says God placed this in their Hearts.

Chapter 18, in brevity, is the Beast System being destroyed by the 21 Judgments of God, Babylon is Fallen, is Fallen, is the World System, crying because the Beast System (World Gov. which leaves out God) has been destroyed, and is become inhabitants of Devils, Satan is cast down, and Appolyon is loosed along with hordes of locust like demons. God tells His people to come out of her so you receive not her plagues, I think this is a call to Israel to flee Judea. All the merchants cry after her, because the Earth is JUDGED and DESTROYED....Babylon, is Fallen.

Revelation 19 is happening at the same time as all the Judgments, it is the Marriage of the Lamb to the Church, the Rapture happens, the Marriage and the Judgments all happen at the same time. We come back with Jesus at his Second Coming.

Revelation 20 is Satan being bound a 1000 years, loosed for a brief time, then cast into hell with the Beast and False Prophet.

Revelation 21 is New Jerusalem, the New Heaven and us Saints living with God forever more. Amen.

All the chapters from 4-22 save 11 for part of 11, happen after the Rapture of the Church.

That is my take on the timeline, God Bless.

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