Jesus and mary magdalene

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Magenta

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The truth is we don't know about his intentions, like you admitted.

So, instead of pouring unnecessary hatred on him and projecting on him preconcieved ideas we have of men, we should stick to what we know. That would be the honest, christian way to look at it.
Your words: I don't think that Pope Gregory's intention was to belittle her. On the contrary, I might say. You need to take your own advice and stop projecting your hatred onto me. That would be the Christian thing to do, after all :D
 

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What we know: a Roman Catholic pope made Mary Magdalene a whore when there is no Scriptural basis to do so. Another fact is that the Roman Catholic church insists that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was a perpetual virgin despite the fact that a plain reading of Scripture shows Jesus had brothers and sisters, which many accept as a fact. The RCC have also made Mary out to be sinless against the clear teaching of Scripture, and also made her a mediator between man and God also against the clear teaching of Scripture. Guess, what, Guess Who? Pointing out the errors of the Roman Catholic church is not hate.
 
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:haha: thats why
the divination of jesus was put on line because of that teachings
of them who try to manipulate the world
that if jesus married magdalene then he is not a god
because a god cant have a wife literally
and
we almost forgot that god is a spirit meaning spiritually speaking
as it is written
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Juan: 4. 23. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

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godbless us all always
 
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GuessWho

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Your words: I don't think that Pope Gregory's intention was to belittle her. On the contrary, I might say. You need to take your own advice and stop projecting your hatred onto me. That would be the Christian thing to do, after all :D
I don't have hatred for you. I think that if we are to project intentions on people, then we should be careful at our own eyes. Jesus Christ said that sin is in our eyes and in order to see clear, we should clean our eyes. Maybe, just maybe, it is not Pope Gregory who had mean intentions, maybe the problem is whithin you. Just saying.
 

Magenta

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I wonder if people realise that Jesus had to go to the bathroom like everyone else, I bet when he hit puberty that he woke up and had to go to the bathroom aswell,.. HE BECAME HUMAN lol somehow every time its about sex or private parts ppl go nuts.
:haha: that why
the divination of jesus was put on line because of that teachings
of them who try to manipulate the world
that if jesus married magdalene then he is not a god
because a god cant have a wife literally
and
we almost forgot that god is a spirit meaning spiritually speaking
as it is written
:read:
Juan: 4. 23. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

:ty:

godbless us all always
People seem to forget the metaphoric nature of God's covenants to earthly marriage and go all literal as if they were going ballistic haha. Jesus being fully human in nature as well as fully divine seems to be put on the back burner as well. There really is no accounting for it. People get hysterical at the mere mention of Jesus having bodily functions, as Demi said.
 

Magenta

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I don't have hatred for you. I think that if we are to project intentions on people, then we should be careful at our own eyes. Jesus Christ said that sin is in our eyes and in order to see clear, we should clean our eyes. Maybe, just maybe, it is not Pope Gregory who had mean intentions, maybe the problem is whithin you. Just saying.
Oh yes you are completely innocent in your eyes which is why you absolve yourself of all your hate filled comments to me and make it all my fault. So typical. And you are still not taking responsibility for your pretensions to knowing the pope's intentions while chastising me for assigning motive. You are such a hypocrite :)
 
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:haha: as they say
but our lord and saviour
the only begotten son of god is
the christ jesus and his not just a man
as it is written
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1 Juan: 1. 1.
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2. (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
3. That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
4. And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

5. This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

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godbless us all always
 
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Magenta

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:haha: but our lord and saviour the only begotten son god is
the christ jesus and his not just a man
Nobody said He was just a man. He was 100% human and 100% God.
 
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Nobody said He was just a man. He was 100% human and 100% God.
:alien: a typhographical error
that :haha: is so determined not bring hate but understanding
unto all
because he was been deceived by hate before
thats what he told me
so i wrote it and type it to a holographic keyboard
what i meant is the keyboard is a touch screen keyboard
 

Magenta

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The RCC also insists on celibacy for the priesthood while Scripture made no such declaration within Christianity, easily seen since the apostle Peter was married. On the other hand we can plainily see that there is terrible sexual abuse within the RCC, much of which they tried to cover up and buy their way out of. I wonder Who will say it is hateful of me to sympathize with all the victims of the RCC throughout history.
 
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His intention seems to have been to create the virgin/whore archetype and forever brand women as either/or.
actually gregory's 'motivation' seems to have been nothing more than that he mistakenly identified an unnamed biblical character as being mary magdalene...

there are several other cases of mistaken identity in various commentaries on scripture...gregory is just part of a long history of human fallibility...
 

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What we know: a Roman Catholic pope made Mary Magdalene a whore when there is no Scriptural basis to do so.
They also made her a saint and the model of repentance (this should ring a bell in your head and see that the identification of Mary Magdalene with a prostitute is not to belittle her, but to show the power of repentance, the miracle of metanoia).

Another fact is that the Roman Catholic church insists that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was a perpetual virgin despite the fact that a plain reading of Scripture shows Jesus had brothers and sisters, which many accept as a fact. The RCC have also made Mary out to be sinless against the clear teaching of Scripture, and also made her a mediator between man and God also against the clear teaching of Scripture. Guess, what, Guess Who? Pointing out the errors of the Roman Catholic church is not hate.
The belief that Saint Mary was virgin before, during and after giving birth to Jesus Christ is much older than the RCC. Also, this belief is not held only by the RCC, but also by Orthodox, Oriental, some Anglican and Lutheran churches.

You didn't point out the errors of RCC. You talked about the intentions of a man (Pope Gregory). It is one thing to point out the errors, and a completely different thing to suppose that a catholic man had mean intentions. Again, you ignore his intentions, and chosing to think bad about a person you don't know, shows that you have a problem.
 
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if you ever mention Jesus being married it will really get people upset. why is it such a taboo question? if Jesus was married, what difference does it make? how does it change anything?
The problem with Jesus being married, as I see it, is that Jesus is God in flesh. Therefore, we are all his children. I find the idea that Jesus had sexual relations with one of his children unbelievable.
 

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actually gregory's 'motivation' seems to have been nothing more than that he mistakenly identified an unnamed biblical character as being mary magdalene...

there are several other cases of mistaken identity in various commentaries on scripture...gregory is just part of a long history of human fallibility...
Exactly. Mary Magdalene has been identified either with the woman caught in adultery, either with the one that washed Jesus feet with her hair.

As you say, it shows his fallibility, rather than mean, hidden, mysoginist intentions.
 
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Nobody said He was just a man. He was 100% human and 100% God.
:haha: as our brethren :whistle: said before
guesswho really love god so much
and everyone would agree on that because everyone loves god
thats why
we encourage her and also those people
to have faith in god
and not to pope or anyone
even unto us because we are just slaves
and one time in my life i became a slave of evil
but now i know who is good and cannot lie
and his only begotten son our lord and saviour
along with all that is holy

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godbless us all always
 

Magenta

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They also made her a saint and the model of repentance (this should ring a bell in your head and see that the identification of Mary Magdalene with a prostitute is not to belittle her, but to show the power of repentance, the miracle of metanoia).
Hello? Every believer is a saint. You seem to want to overlook that.

The belief that Saint Mary was virgin before, during and after giving birth to Jesus Christ is much older than the RCC. Also, this belief is not held only by the RCC, but also by Orthodox, Oriental, some Anglican and Lutheran churches.
It is still wrong. Are you a member of one of those churches that insists on teaching error? Oh, yeah, you already admitted you are.

You didn't point out the errors of RCC. You talked about the intentions of a man (Pope Gregory). It is one thing to point out the errors, and a completely different thing to suppose that a catholic man had mean intentions. Again, you ignore his intentions, and chosing to think bad about a person you don't know, shows that you have a problem.
Mean intentions? Your hateful comments are completely whitewashed by you. I did point out errors of the RCC. I am sorry you are so blind you cannot see it. Meanwhile you keep pretending you did not do the same thing (assign intention). Hypocrite describes you very well
 

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Jesus was God come in the flesh.. He was not subject to sexual desires and thus would not seek a wife.. The offense caused by talk of Jesus being married to Mary Magdalene come because it is seen as an attack on the divinity of Christ.. Because if Jesus had carnal desires then Jesus was just a normal man.. And if Jesus was just a normal man then the Bible and Christianity are false and founded on lies..


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Doesnt it say somewhere that he was tempted in every way that we are yet he was without sin? You seem to be confusing sexual attraction which is natural with lust which is sinful. I find it hard to imagine a normal man of thirty something not being attracted to women.
 
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The problem with Jesus being married, as I see it, is that Jesus is God in flesh. Therefore, we are all his children. I find the idea that Jesus had sexual relations with one of his children unbelievable.
:haha: its your idea brother
and not everyones idea
because being a children of god is not literally written
for god is a spirit
thats why after the flesh comes the spirit
doyou think
youll have your fleshly body if youll go to heaven literally
 

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Doesnt it say somewhere that he was tempted in every way that we are yet he was without sin? You seem to be confusing sexual attraction which is natural with lust which is sinful. I find it hard to imagine a normal man of thirty something not being attracted to women.
Yes, I already pointed that Scripture out :) People are making things up and pretending they are going by what Scripture teaches when clearly it is the opposite!

Jesus was God come in the flesh.. He was not subject to sexual desires and thus would not seek a wife.. The offense caused by talk of Jesus being married to Mary Magdalene come because it is seen as an attack on the divinity of Christ.. Because if Jesus had carnal desires then Jesus was just a normal man.. And if Jesus was just a normal man then the Bible and Christianity are false and founded on lies..
You have just contradicted a plain reading of Scripture. Heb. 4:15

For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are--yet he did not sin.
 

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Hello? Every believer is a saint. You seem to want to overlook that.
You seem to want to overlook the fact that Mary Magdalene is held a saint in the RCC. If she is a saint than there is no logic in presuming mean intentions behind her identification with a prostitute.

Mean intentions? Your hateful comments are completely whitewashed by you. I did point out errors of the RCC. I am sorry you are so blind you cannot see it. Meanwhile you keep pretending you did not do the same thing (assign intention). Hypocrite describes you very well
I did not assign intention. Elementary logic teaches you that if someone is being honored as a saint than it doesn't matter what that person was before, prostitute, publican, murderer you name it. It simply means that metanoia is real and it is at our reach.