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All that has nothing to do with satan sending a messenger to beat up on Paul.
Of course the Lord disciplines us! Did someone say that He doesn't? The Greek word for "discipline" is "child-training" and it is a loving sign of His love for us.
If we want to see "how" our loving Father disciplines us - look to Jesus while He was on this earth.
Jesus is perfect theology.
Jesus aid "No one knows My Father, but the Son"
Hebrews 1:3 says that Jesus is the exact image and representation of the nature of the Father.
If we want to see how the Father will discipline us - look to see how Jesus treated His disciples while He was on this earth. He disciplined them with His words. - not putting destructive things on them to teach them things. That's ungodly and not like our Father and Jesus showed us the real Father when He came.
He can use the mess that we have made to reveal His love and grace to us but He is not the author of bringing destruction to His children.
Jesus never sent satan to beat them up to "teach them things". Jesus never said 'You must have a sickness so that you can learn things". Jesus never said " You must have destruction come to you in order for you to learn from the Father." He said the complete opposite.
Of course the Lord disciplines us! Did someone say that He doesn't? The Greek word for "discipline" is "child-training" and it is a loving sign of His love for us.
If we want to see "how" our loving Father disciplines us - look to Jesus while He was on this earth.
Jesus is perfect theology.
Jesus aid "No one knows My Father, but the Son"
Hebrews 1:3 says that Jesus is the exact image and representation of the nature of the Father.
If we want to see how the Father will discipline us - look to see how Jesus treated His disciples while He was on this earth. He disciplined them with His words. - not putting destructive things on them to teach them things. That's ungodly and not like our Father and Jesus showed us the real Father when He came.
He can use the mess that we have made to reveal His love and grace to us but He is not the author of bringing destruction to His children.
Jesus never sent satan to beat them up to "teach them things". Jesus never said 'You must have a sickness so that you can learn things". Jesus never said " You must have destruction come to you in order for you to learn from the Father." He said the complete opposite.
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28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
This has nothing to do with how we are disciplined by the Lord. I don't really know what you are getting at as you are all over the place.
The word "judged" here simply means to "decide between".."distinguish"..."determine"...This means to "determine and to decide between" what is right in this situation in 1 Cor. 11.
"Condemned" here is not the same word used as in Romans 8:1 - there is no condemnation to those that are in Christ Jesus.
The "chastening" is the word for child-training again which is for corrective purposes not for punishment as the world will receive for not receiving Christ.
The word "judged" here simply means to "decide between".."distinguish"..."determine"...This means to "determine and to decide between" what is right in this situation in 1 Cor. 11.
"Condemned" here is not the same word used as in Romans 8:1 - there is no condemnation to those that are in Christ Jesus.
The "chastening" is the word for child-training again which is for corrective purposes not for punishment as the world will receive for not receiving Christ.
