Children forced to take Vaccines or not be able to go to school

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HS

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That is total misinformation and couldn't be more wrong. As I said earlier education is urgently required.

The second biggest contributor to global warming is the meat and dairy industry, so it's about time we think about our carbon footprint. Cows and pigs fart a lot - methane. That's more dangerous than cars and the smoke chimneys let of and things of the like -18% is due to that. Whereas the whole world transport is 30.5%. Everyone talks about transport, Al Gore did the convenient truth, but conveniently left out meat and dairy and now his second one is going to incorporate it because the United Nations have released a paper saying that that is one of the biggest contributors to global warming.


What about all those poor souls in underdeveloped countries who survive because they've got a couple of cows? We take all their grain. Backstage at Live 8 one of the African women famously said to a person who asked "how do feel, everyone is trying to wipe out debt??!!!" she responded "if stopped drinking your lattes we wouldn't have children dying in Africa". Shortly afterward on film in a documentary showed all the grain that could've fed all the starving children is being shipped back to us and our Europe to feed the cattle.
So it's actually the reverse every time.

Over here those who are happy to support our dairy farmers and egg producers would think that would be a massive amount of people out work. They wouldn't be out of work because they could grow all the vegan products instead, they could do all the grain just to name one example. Further if the whole of America stopped using the grain for cattle there'd be no such thing as world starvation. Just America alone. So all the farmers would carry on having loads of work but they would grow soy and different grains and wheats that would go to people instead of the cattle.

No it's not about the people out of work it's our export industry. And what would we do with all our land that is useless for anything but say sheep and beef farming? Yes dairy farmers need to be able to decrease their stocking rate per hectare as atm pollution into waterways is a big thing. I believe global warming is fallacy. All lies. our climate fluctuates all the time a century warmer a century colder. Doesn't affect sea levels but that is a whole new thread. So is the farming issue.
 
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I just did. The only thing I saw was that the world health organization claims it could be a cause, but I did find a lot of doctors saying that they don't believe red meat causes cancer.

There are many things that traditional western doctors subscribe and to prescribe that are a complete misfire for the person in question's current ailments and current research. Further, not only are they ineffective but many times they actually do far more damage than good. Medication is so overused and so incredibly unnecessary in millions of different cases. If people looked at diet, exercise and natural supplements, if they really educated themselves and gave themselves an opportunity to heal properly long term they would absolutely be able to turn things around minus the prescribed poison.

Look at the poison you put into your body that industries advertise as 'food'. So much of what you suffer, your ailments physical and mental can be resolved to a large extent if not completely by eating healthy, organic foods exclusively every day.

Doctors who are absolutely profit driven, don't provide information that is not only not accurate but results in many health problems with patients. They work for big pharma, that's their agenda, not your health and the things that they claim are totally based on their agenda. Your supposed medical health professionals have been killing people for years if not giving them many health problems in the interim of what is left of their half lived life. Your actual statement here describes to a tee why people have divorced themselves from doctors who are driven by big pharma and try to provide with a very destructive solution that profits them but that does nothing for the person.

'Medical Health Professional'. Those kinds of people have been proven wrong for many years and for good reason. Qualified doctors by societies generic definition for the most part never give any solution to pre existing conditions nor provide advice on how to prevent diseases. Pushing drugs and saying 'there's nothing you can do" is the running theme of what those people have to say.

 
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No it's not about the people out of work it's our export industry. And what would we do with all our land that is useless for anything but say sheep and beef farming?
That has just been addressed, but I think failing comprehension has proven to be an issue.

I believe global warming is fallacy. All lies. our climate fluctuates all the time a century warmer a century colder. Doesn't affect sea levels but that is a whole new thread. So is the farming issue.

You've got a lot of reading and educating yourself to go off and do. Global warming, the farming issue i explored, the food we put in our mouths, our carbon foot print are all inextricably linked. If you can't see how, even after others have attempted to illustrate and point this out to you, I suggest you study all those matters further. God speed.
 

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http:// http://creation.mobi/global-warming-facts-and-myths
Info for you Laura.
Farming well I live on a farming community and work on one. Studied and have two certificates in it.
American farming is different than ours and food off some of those would be unhealthy. Organic is the best way to go or at least less chemicals.
 
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http:// http://creation.mobi/global-warming-facts-and-myths
Info for you Laura.
Farming well I live on a farming community and work on one. Studied and have two certificates in it.
American farming is different than ours and food off some of those would be unhealthy. Organic is the best way to go or at least less chemicals.
Thanks for the simple fact sheet, anyone can make up one of those. I suggest you push your study a little further than that. I'm glad you live on a 'farming community', that's a basic start. My experience goes slightly beyond this.

Having been a jillaroo up in different parts of the New Northern Territory, Newry Station to name one, and Orange, New South Wales, having worked and travelled in America and in Tanzania has taught me quite a few things that lead me not only to my vegan lifestyle today but to understand global warming and the continuous dangers of our carbon footprint. The very basic of which was to understand that global warming as an issue the world faces today is an indisputable fact. I'd encourage you to go beyond a quick five minute google search of a simple fact sheet and a couple of certificates and actually develop your experiences and formal education which will hopefully happen over time for you in order to provide you with a much more well rounded perspective on these issues.

If you totally fail to see that global warming exists and you make the incredibly ignorant claim "If we all became vegans than the farming industry would fall and that would cause our country to go bankrupt." that alone screams volumes about how much work you've got to do.

One thing I do agree on is organic being the best. As a vegan I will always espouse the raw and organic lifestyle as is well noted throughout the forums. Further, it's one thing I developed in my curriculum with our daily fruit intake in the mornings at school with my students. It's produced fantastic results and something I live by daily.
 

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H.S. Take heart. There are many who claim to be "educated" when in fact they have really been "indoctrinated". You're views are fine. Don't worry if others belittle them.
 

Tommy379

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There are many things that traditional western doctors subscribe and to prescribe that are a complete misfire for the person in question's current ailments and current research. Further, not only are they ineffective but many times they actually do far more damage than good. Medication is so overused and so incredibly unnecessary in millions of different cases. If people looked at diet, exercise and natural supplements, if they really educated themselves and gave themselves an opportunity to heal properly long term they would absolutely be able to turn things around minus the prescribed poison.

Look at the poison you put into your body that industries advertise as 'food'. So much of what you suffer, your ailments physical and mental can be resolved to a large extent if not completely by eating healthy, organic foods exclusively every day.

Doctors who are absolutely profit driven, don't provide information that is not only not accurate but results in many health problems with patients. They work for big pharma, that's their agenda, not your health and the things that they claim are totally based on their agenda. Your supposed medical health professionals have been killing people for years if not giving them many health problems in the interim of what is left of their half lived life. Your actual statement here describes to a tee why people have divorced themselves from doctors who are driven by big pharma and try to provide with a very destructive solution that profits them but that does nothing for the person.

'Medical Health Professional'. Those kinds of people have been proven wrong for many years and for good reason. Qualified doctors by societies generic definition for the most part never give any solution to pre existing conditions nor provide advice on how to prevent diseases. Pushing drugs and saying 'there's nothing you can do" is the running theme of what those people have to say.

Where did you get your medical degree from?
 
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This thread deserves to be in the conspiracy theory forum. The amount of garbage served up as anything newsworthy, and, worse yet, anything biblical is just that -- garbage.

The real question: Did JFK get shot by a leader of the raw vegan association which is just a puppet of the Illuminati, who were all born on the dark side of the moon?
 
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FlowersnJesus

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I am new here. I have been reading the different forums and threads for the last day. This is my first post.
I am interested in this because I have 2 young children.
I don't know to much about what is good and bad about vaccines. After reading this thread I decided to do a little bit of searching on google. With the information provided on this thread, and what I have red on the internet, I think I would rather not have my children take vaccines.
 
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KimPetras

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If you have vaccinated your children to prevent a disease,
why are you afried of a non-vaccinated child?


Do you feel your kids will catch a desease after being vaccinated for it?
Vaccinations aren't a 100% guarantee you're immune to the disease. More often than not they are effective, but unfortunately there is a chance you could still acquire the disease.
 
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KimPetras

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Riding in a car with a seat belt is a good preventative measure to take. However, simply having a seat belt own doesn't mean we will survive a 190 km/h game of chicken. I wouldn't want to test that theory, even if I did have a seat belt on.
 

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I am new here. I have been reading the different forums and threads for the last day. This is my first post.
I am interested in this because I have 2 young children.
I don't know to much about what is good and bad about vaccines. After reading this thread I decided to do a little bit of searching on google. With the information provided on this thread, and what I have red on the internet, I think I would rather not have my children take vaccines.
I have no shot record and have never been in hospital once. Praise God! He is certainly a faithful God.
 
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FlowersnJesus

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I was having problems with my sugar levels a few years ago. I did not know much about eating right beyond what the government told us in the food pyramid. I knew I was eating to much sugary foods, but I had a hard time stopping.
I decided to do some research on the internet and also purchased a 6 pack visitation bundle with a nearby RD.
I was so surprised at what she told me.

I immediately changed the way I ate, and I am now a vegetarian. I still sometimes eat some fish, but that is the only food from the animal kingdom I eat.
My health is so much better.
I never even knew about people eating completely uncooked foods or "raw" as they call it until I saw the RD.

It repulses me, the idea of killing anything, even a insect. Even before I saw the RD I ate very little animals.
Now I am hoping one day to give up fish altogether.

My family is meat and potatoes people. Not me.
I was always the odd one anyway.;)

Thank you Laura for the information. And Joseph to. I still have a lot to learn.
I hope more people would consider how harmful and cruel to animals it is to eat them.
 
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Thank you Laura for the information. And Joseph to. I still have a lot to learn.
I hope more people would consider how harmful and cruel to animals it is to eat them.

Glad to have helped, keep up the great work!
 

Tommy379

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I got likes from KimPetras and Blue Ladybug. I'm so happy today.
 

Tommy379

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Dang it, all I got is a phone.
 
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Ultimatum77

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Dang it, all I got is a phone.
Oh well use the flashlight app on it and hit the strobe setting and let it flicker and do a jig/dance lol :) it's close enought to the celebratory fireworks screensaver on most windows lol...
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I am new here. I have been reading the different forums and threads for the last day. This is my first post.
I am interested in this because I have 2 young children.
I don't know to much about what is good and bad about vaccines. After reading this thread I decided to do a little bit of searching on google. With the information provided on this thread, and what I have red on the internet, I think I would rather not have my children take vaccines.

Don't you think your doctor knows more about this than leymen on the internet and anonymous websites?
If someone told you "Ignore your symptoms of meningitis, it's just the doctors trying to get rich", would you listen to them?
 

HS

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H.S. Take heart. There are many who claim to be "educated" when in fact they have really been "indoctrinated". You're views are fine. Don't worry if others belittle them.
Thank you brother.
I also withdraw from the argument as they never get anywhere. I and Laura will have to agree to disagree on those subjects. I hold no hard feelings against you Laura and I pray that you hold none against me either. FYI I always treat my animals well but sometimes we do have to eat then e.g. the extra roasters.