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I may be young and yet to have my first date, but that's not why I'm here.

Given what most stats say and the fact that we have to go to websites just to find people to date, I'd say the Church needs to be more responsible in how they treat singles. If they're going to preach purity and abstinence before marriage to teens and young adults, then they need to help those young adults get married. Because that same advice doesn't work really well by the time you hit your thirties.

Yes, I know what the Bible says. But the Bible was also written in a time when people married at fifteen. We don't do that anymore. I'm not saying we should marry at fifteen, but we should marry when while we're young and don't have to endure temptation longer than we should.

The current situation is like what the Church would probably do if it went the same way with our pro-life views. It would be like if they always promoted life over abortion but then practically refused to help pregnant women in difficult circumstances.
 

tourist

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Perhaps you can meet someone worth dating on this site?
 
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I may be young and yet to have my first date, but that's not why I'm here.

Given what most stats say and the fact that we have to go to websites just to find people to date, I'd say the Church needs to be more responsible in how they treat singles. If they're going to preach purity and abstinence before marriage to teens and young adults, then they need to help those young adults get married. Because that same advice doesn't work really well by the time you hit your thirties.

Yes, I know what the Bible says. But the Bible was also written in a time when people married at fifteen. We don't do that anymore. I'm not saying we should marry at fifteen, but we should marry when while we're young and don't have to endure temptation longer than we should.

The current situation is like what the Church would probably do if it went the same way with our pro-life views. It would be like if they always promoted life over abortion but then practically refused to help pregnant women in difficult circumstances.
How is the church supposed to help single people get married? And how do you deal with what Paul says about marrying at all, since you think the church is supposed to help people get married? (1 Cor. 7)
 
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The Jewish community actively helps their people in this regard. If someone wants to stay single, that's fine. And Paul admits that his opinions were his own. Besides, he was writing to a group of people in a desperate situation. Not everyone is called to the same path. But God's remedy for sexual frustration is marriage, not lifelong celibacy.
 
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Don't do no good to people who are forced into involuntary celibacy, due to being unwanted by the opposite sex.

unwanted people like me, are unwanted, no church,dating site, magical hooplah changes it.

you ether get everything or forced to be without.
 

RickyZ

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The Bible actually speaks against marriage. Show of hands - how many married people wish they had listened? :)
 

RickyZ

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Don't do no good to people who are forced into involuntary celibacy, due to being unwanted by the opposite sex.

unwanted people like me, are unwanted, no church,dating site, magical hooplah changes it.

you ether get everything or forced to be without.
I hear ya. I couldn't get a woman's attention if I was on fire outside a boarding house. So I settled. Better to be alone than to settle.
 

Lynx

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Don't do no good to people who are forced into involuntary celibacy, due to being unwanted by the opposite sex.

unwanted people like me, are unwanted, no church,dating site, magical hooplah changes it.

you ether get everything or forced to be without.
You either get some things or you get other things, and then you either use what you have or lament what you don't have.
 

Lynx

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I may be young and yet to have my first date, but that's not why I'm here.

Given what most stats say and the fact that we have to go to websites just to find people to date, I'd say the Church needs to be more responsible in how they treat singles. If they're going to preach purity and abstinence before marriage to teens and young adults, then they need to help those young adults get married. Because that same advice doesn't work really well by the time you hit your thirties.

Yes, I know what the Bible says. But the Bible was also written in a time when people married at fifteen. We don't do that anymore. I'm not saying we should marry at fifteen, but we should marry when while we're young and don't have to endure temptation longer than we should.

The current situation is like what the Church would probably do if it went the same way with our pro-life views. It would be like if they always promoted life over abortion but then practically refused to help pregnant women in difficult circumstances.
Every church I've ever seen has social functions for single people, for the express purpose of getting them out of the house and meeting people. Some activities are more blatantly match-making than others, but...

What more would you have a church do? Host speed-dating events?

By the way, wouldn't historyprincess be HERstoryprincess? If it's a princess it should be her story. :cool:
(Sorry, couldn't pass up the joke. Ignore me, I'm a joker.)
 

JonahLynx

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The Jewish community actively helps their people in this regard. If someone wants to stay single, that's fine. And Paul admits that his opinions were his own. Besides, he was writing to a group of people in a desperate situation. Not everyone is called to the same path. But God's remedy for sexual frustration is marriage, not lifelong celibacy.
If marriage is a need then doesn't it make more sense to blame God for not providing for us, after saying He would, rather than the church? I don't think the solution is always marriage, it's just contentment.
 
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Marriage is one of the fundamental building blocks for society. And if we want to have healthy people and a healthy succeeding generation, we need to have healthy marriages. It protects women and domesticates men, and children need both a father and a mother. There are exceptions of course, but exceptions are not the rule.

There are countries around the world that don't have a high marriage rate, and are thus seeing their populations rapidly decline. In fact the only reason the population in the U.S. has been stable is because of immigrants.
 
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And besides, contentment doesn't seem to be in big supply. With the porn industry's income at an all-time high, maybe we should pair people together to be not only fulfilling but accountable, and not practically isolate them.
 

Lynx

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Uh... where are you getting this information HistoryPrincess? And what part of the USA are you looking at in this data? Because where I live there's more people than ever before...
 
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MollyConnor

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Yeah just because people are not getting married, doesn't mean they aren't having kids. I agree with HistoryPrincess, though, that kids need both parents. A male and female parent, I mean. :p

LOL Yes, I just used the gender words that I was complaining about in Streams...

If people keep having kids without getting married...well the stats don't look good.

Fatherhood Data & Statistics
 
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I don't even think an entire church could help me find a wife.. :p
 

Silverwings

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I hear ya. I couldn't get a woman's attention if I was on fire outside a boarding house. So I settled. Better to be alone than to settle.
You make the third man to lament being single on this post!! Where oh where is that woman who was looking for a man?
Here we go again, with the 10 character thingy!!
 
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Loneliness and hormones are a tough nut to crack. Been there, done that, and got the T-shirt. I married when I was 21 and regreted it. You hardly know yourself and what you want out of life, much less a mate at that age. If it is God's intent for you to marry, then He will provide the mate. I promise you it will be worth the wait. I married my first wife completely against God's known will and I am paying for that disobediance to this day.
Get closer to God while you are single. It's the perfect opportunity to get to know God's will for your life. Forget what family, friends, society, and peers are showing and telling you. If it turns out that it is God's will for you to be single, then He will provide the grace to do so.

GraceDefined
 
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I don't have a problem with people choosing to be single. The problem for a lot of people though is that most of us are not meant to endure temptation for that long. And when you finally do get married, you have to do a lot of mental clearing out in order to just enjoy intercourse.

And the reason there's a lot of divorce is not just because of "no-fault" laws. It's also because people do not resolve in their minds to be with their spouses forever. We need to know that if they really love someone, we will be willing to remain with that person for life. That's also why a lot of people are rude to their spouses, because they think they can always file for divorce if they don't like this person.
 

JesusLives

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I may be young and yet to have my first date, but that's not why I'm here.

Given what most stats say and the fact that we have to go to websites just to find people to date, I'd say the Church needs to be more responsible in how they treat singles. If they're going to preach purity and abstinence before marriage to teens and young adults, then they need to help those young adults get married. Because that same advice doesn't work really well by the time you hit your thirties.

Yes, I know what the Bible says. But the Bible was also written in a time when people married at fifteen. We don't do that anymore. I'm not saying we should marry at fifteen, but we should marry when while we're young and don't have to endure temptation longer than we should.

The current situation is like what the Church would probably do if it went the same way with our pro-life views. It would be like if they always promoted life over abortion but then practically refused to help pregnant women in difficult circumstances.
If your church doesn't currently have a singles group going maybe you should check into leading or developing such a group. Have activities that happen at your church for singles and invite other singles from other churches in your area to participate. Get moving and find those singles.