using Yahweh when writing about God

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Dan_473

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I am going to hit the hay soon, it is almost 8 pm here, but I would like to leave all with a glorious wonder.

Yahweh means Self-Existing One Who Is.

Yeshua means the Salvation of Yah(weh):

Come the great tribulation , and someone who is not yet save calls in earnest to "Whoever you are, save me." If this person is in earnest, he will be saved by our Lord, Jesus Christ right there. Now is this not the glor of Love, I mean Love that is God?

The prophet Joels said it, "It shall be in that time that whosoever calls upon the name of Yahweh will be saved." Now this is amazing and truly exposes the great mercy of God Almight to all who truly believe.

God bless all who are in Jesus Christ.
very true! just... compare that thought with

"there is

no other name

under heaven

that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts+4&version=nasb
 

Grandpa

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You say po-tay-to I say po-tah-to.

You say to-may-to I say to-mah-to.

Not really, but there is a point in there somewhere.
 

Dan_473

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You say po-tay-to I say po-tah-to.

You say to-may-to I say to-mah-to.

Not really, but there is a point in there somewhere.

I know what you're saying...

my thinking is that sometimes people start to think that being more in touch with the hebrew roots of Christianity is the way to go...

the apostles were very much into their hebrew roots... yet they never once wrote "yahweh" in the NT...


is there something new today that the apostles didn't know about?
 

Yonah

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have you learned something the apostles didn't know? (serious question... maybe the spirit has shown you something new.)
first I would say this: all I have been given I have received, all the truth ive been abundantly blessed with is from the Father of lights in whom is no variableness neither shadow of turning, as it is with all who have a love of the truth, all through the text in scripture there are numerous places where we read: Call upon His name, and when I found His name I choose to call, upon it, nowhere in any of my post have I ever claimed it was required for anyone to do so, for me I feel led to address Himas I am directed , if that means I have been given revelation the apostles of old were not, (I do believe the father gives all what and when its needed and it not always the same for each person and certainly not for each time...) I only know when I call upon that name things happen in my life and around it, my prayers are more "connected" and I feel His presence more then in the days before I called Him by His name.
This by no means says that I feel everyone should, that's my experience and its one of the many blessings He has given me in my journey.
Just because in the letters the apostles did write there seems to be no mention of His name to some, doesn't mean they never called upon Him by that name, the letters we see are but snapshots in a rich and varied life yeilded dailly to our Savior the truth is we don't really know what they did or didn't do outside those letters.
 

Dan_473

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sounds interesting, Yonah!

what name did God tell you to call him?
 

fredoheaven

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I know what you're saying...

my thinking is that sometimes people start to think that being more in touch with the hebrew roots of Christianity is the way to go...

the apostles were very much into their hebrew roots... yet they never once wrote "yahweh" in the NT...


is there something new today that the apostles didn't know about?
Hi Sir Dan,

“Genebrardus seems to have been the first to suggest the pronunciation Iahue [pronounced Yahweh], but it was not until the 19th century that it became generally accepted”

…it should be noted that in adopting it we admit that, using the name Hebrew in the historical sense, Yahweh is not a Hebrew name.

Read more: JEHOVAH (YAHWEH2) - Online Information article about JEHOVAH (YAHWEH2) JEHOVAH (YAHWEH2) - Online Information article about JEHOVAH (YAHWEH2)

“Friedrich Delitzsch brought into notice three tablets, of the age of the first dynasty of Babylon, in which he read the names of Ya- a'-ve-ilu, Ya-ve-ilu, and Ya-ii-um-ilu (" Yahweh is God "), and which he regarded as conclusive proof that Yahweh was known in Babylonia before 2000 B.c.; he was a god of the Semitic invaders in the second wave of migration, who were, according to Winckler and Delitzsch,

Read more: JEHOVAH (YAHWEH2) - Online Information article about JEHOVAH (YAHWEH2) JEHOVAH (YAHWEH2) - Online Information article about JEHOVAH (YAHWEH2)

Scholars are now agreed that, so far as Yahu or Yah occurs in Babylonian texts, it is as the name of a foreign god. Assuming that Yahweh was primitively a nature god, scholars in the 19th century discussed the question over what sphere of nature he originally presided. According to some he was the god of consuming fire; others saw in him the bright sky, or the heaven; still others recognized in him a storm god

Read more: JEHOVAH (YAHWEH2) - Online Information article about JEHOVAH (YAHWEH2) JEHOVAH (YAHWEH2) - Online Information article about JEHOVAH (YAHWEH2)

So according to the non- bias source EB, Yahweh has entirely no connection with the Hebrew roots.

God bless!
 

JaumeJ

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Of course. When I read the NT in Hebrew, Yahweh is always used in reference to what has been translated as Lor when quoting the OT.

Are you going to say the NT cannot be translated to Hebrew?. Many spiritual men, that is of the Holy Spirit, believe the first writings of anything Holy aside from theEpistles were in Hebrew. Just as the RCC used Latin for so many centuries..

One may not discount this thinking simply because of a majority rule. The Holy Spirit seals truth in all.

The first people who were of Jesus Christ outside of Israel did learn all about Yeshua from the Tanakh. Also it would have been quite irregular for any of the Apostles to have taught in any other language in any Synagogue since all their writings were Hebrew, and we know the Prophets and the Law all indicate Jesus Christ. This may only be refuted by an enemy of the Source of allwe are given to know.

By the way, good morning.......


yes, Jah is used as part of names, like Elijah, in the NT... also I think two occurrences of HalleluJah in Revelation.

can you find a place in the NT where yahweh is used when quoting the OT?
 

JaumeJ

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Once more, the only name given would naturally be the name given by God, Himself, not that of the translators who have not completed or mistranslated so many words of teh Bible......all unknowingly by Design, I believe. Thes are changing fast, and much is being revealed before Yeshua's return.

God bless all in Jesus Christ,amen.

very true! just... compare that thought with

"there is

no other name

under heaven

that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts+4&version=nasb
 

fredoheaven

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The only variance in the pronuciation of Yahweh would mainly fall under the auspices of the person's accent. Yahweh, Yahve, Yahva, etc. The only blatant mispronuciation would be Jehovah since there is not J sound in Hebrew.

Just as Yahweh "named Himself," so did Yahweh name Yeshua, having given this name to Mary and Joseph for the Child to be born. Yeshua is not translated, it is only sounded out from the Hebbrew to Engilsh letters, alphabet.

Yeshua translates to English, The Salvation of Yahweh. Or the Salvagtion of the SElf-Existing. I also love the living God.

Nothing above changes the Salvation of any who are saved by the Blood of the Lamb of God, but to deny our faith in denying our heritage in the Israel of God is not good. It is never good.

God bless all in Jesus Christ, amen.
I asked, how did you arrive the pronunciation of "Yahweh"? Since you said no "J" sound in Hebrew, question is, Are there also "weh" or "w" sound in Hebrew?

Thanks
 
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JaumeJ

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In Hebrew it is יהוה or yod ha vav he. The pronunciationis according to the grammar rules of Hebrew. Yahweh is taken from the Hebrew verb Haya, or to be. Yahweh is the Hebrew eqivalent to the gerund in English(and other languages.). When we convert the verb into a gerund in English it is simply taking the infinitive, dropping the "to" and adding "ing" to the stem. and example, to read, reading. It becomes a noun. Everyone knows how to pronounce it. It is the same in Hebrew. Now why do you suppose everyone has settled on Yahweh or with another accent Yahveh? It is because the noun form of a verb is just as easy to pronounce as it is in any other language.

Why you bring up the J sound again, I do not know. There is no J sound in the Hebrew alephbet, nor in the spoken languge.

The mistaken error in translating by non-Hebrws to Jehovah, is just that, an error. Like when it was translated for centuries that Moses ha horns emitting from his ehad when he came down from the mount.

It is not so terribly important to pronounce any proper noun absolutely correctly in most languages. Merriam Webster teaches there is NO correct pronunciation of a proper noun in English, only primary, secondary, tertiary, etc. pronuciations. We do always attemtp to use the primary in any proper use of any language, but the accent is not the final dectate on wheterh a noun is correctly pronounced or simply pronoundec using another acepted pronuctiation. To expect one prnuciation because it does not suit one is pedant and ignorant at best.
 
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God calls himself yhwh about 7,000 times in the OT...

zero in the New.

to me, that's important... it means something...
You should consider that the OT was in Hebrew and the NT in Greek. I am sure that if you read the Hebrew translation of the NT you will find the name YHWH :)
 

Grandpa

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I know what you're saying...

my thinking is that sometimes people start to think that being more in touch with the hebrew roots of Christianity is the way to go...

the apostles were very much into their hebrew roots... yet they never once wrote "yahweh" in the NT...


is there something new today that the apostles didn't know about?
No. IF there was only One Name that God could be addressed by, the Apostles would have directed people to use it, and only it, in their epistles.

Also, when people came to Christ He would tell them a certain name to address Him by as well. Are people saved by calling on the name of Jesus? Yes, I am one.

Can people be saved by calling on the name of Yeshua? Well if the Lord speaks english I'm sure He can also understand the intent of the modern hebrew of His ancient hebrew name.


I suppose it would be pretty funny if people thought they were being more Holy by using what they thought was a hebrew name for God and it turned out to be a pagan name.



What I find interesting is english speaking people who don't go to church or read their bible still use the name Jesus Christ as a curse word. In the Spirit, you would think they would use a different name to curse by if the Lord had a different name. Right?
 

Dan_473

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Of course. When I read the NT in Hebrew, Yahweh is always used in reference to what has been translated as Lor when quoting the OT.

Are you going to say the NT cannot be translated to Hebrew?. Many spiritual men, that is of the Holy Spirit, believe the first writings of anything Holy aside from theEpistles were in Hebrew. Just as the RCC used Latin for so many centuries..

One may not discount this thinking simply because of a majority rule. The Holy Spirit seals truth in all.

The first people who were of Jesus Christ outside of Israel did learn all about Yeshua from the Tanakh. Also it would have been quite irregular for any of the Apostles to have taught in any other language in any Synagogue since all their writings were Hebrew, and we know the Prophets and the Law all indicate Jesus Christ. This may only be refuted by an enemy of the Source of allwe are given to know.

By the way, good morning.......
how about posting a passage from your Bible where Yahweh occurs in the NT? Then I might be able to see what you're saying?
 

Dan_473

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Once more, the only name given would naturally be the name given by God, Himself, not that of the translators who have not completed or mistranslated so many words of teh Bible......all unknowingly by Design, I believe. Thes are changing fast, and much is being revealed before Yeshua's return.

God bless all in Jesus Christ,amen.
I'm not sure what you're saying... what is the name that Peter is referring to?
 

JaumeJ

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Any time you read the OT quoted in the NT using the word "Lord" in the translation, the reference is Yahweh.

You may furnish where you refer in mentioning Peter, if you would like.

Nothing I have poste on the Hebrew names is posted to change anyon's manner of worship. It is intended to shine the Light of the Holy Spirit on all who have the vision to see.

Once more Yahweh is the Self-Existing Living God. The only Maker of all that is.

Yahweh is our Salvation if you have read the Word. He is also our King, eternal.

How can this be when Jesus Christ is our Salvation? God is One, this is how.
 

Dan_473

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You should consider that the OT was in Hebrew and the NT in Greek. I am sure that if you read the Hebrew translation of the NT you will find the name YHWH :)

yes, the OT was in Hebrew and the NT in Greek.

when translating an OT passage from hebrew into greek, the apostles changed yhwh into "the lord" (in greek).
 

Dan_473

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No. IF there was only One Name that God could be addressed by, the Apostles would have directed people to use it, and only it, in their epistles.

Also, when people came to Christ He would tell them a certain name to address Him by as well. Are people saved by calling on the name of Jesus? Yes, I am one.

Can people be saved by calling on the name of Yeshua? Well if the Lord speaks english I'm sure He can also understand the intent of the modern hebrew of His ancient hebrew name.


I suppose it would be pretty funny if people thought they were being more Holy by using what they thought was a hebrew name for God and it turned out to be a pagan name.



What I find interesting is english speaking people who don't go to church or read their bible still use the name Jesus Christ as a curse word. In the Spirit, you would think they would use a different name to curse by if the Lord had a different name. Right?

I'll be honest, I'm not really sure what you're saying, there...


do the apostles ever write "Yahweh" in the New Testament?
 

Dan_473

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Any time you read the OT quoted in the NT using the word "Lord" in the translation, the reference is Yahweh.

You may furnish where you refer in mentioning Peter, if you would like.

Nothing I have poste on the Hebrew names is posted to change anyon's manner of worship. It is intended to shine the Light of the Holy Spirit on all who have the vision to see.

Once more Yahweh is the Self-Existing Living God. The only Maker of all that is.

Yahweh is our Salvation if you have read the Word. He is also our King, eternal.

How can this be when Jesus Christ is our Salvation? God is One, this is how.

10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that [g]by the name of

Jesus Christ

the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—[h]by this name this man stands here before you in good health. 11 [j]He is the stone which was rejected by you, the builders, but which became the chief corner stone. 12 And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name

under heaven

that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts+4&version=nasb
 

Dan_473

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Any time you read the OT quoted in the NT using the word "Lord" in the translation, the reference is Yahweh.
I agree that the reference is to the yhwh... but what did the apostles write? did they write "yahweh"?
 

Dan_473

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for anyone who's interested, here's one way the apostles could have written yahweh in greek letters, if they'd been led to: ϊάουει