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Re: Not surprised THAT Trump thread was closed. Lets do a why Trump will be the next
[h=1]All the terrible things Hillary Clinton has done — in one big list[/h]
By Brett Arends
Published: Feb 7, 2016 3:19 p.m. ET
[h=2]The so-called charges of the past 25 years are staggering
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Hillary Clinton looked bored at last year’s Benghazi hearing. That surely means she’s guilty of something, right?DOVER, N.H. (MarketWatch) — I have a confession to make: I can’t keep up.
Am I supposed to hate Hillary Rodham Clinton because she’s too left-wing, or too right-wing? Because she’s too feminist, or not feminist enough? Because she’s too clever a politician, or too clumsy?
Am I supposed to be mad that she gave speeches to rich bankers, or that she charged them too much money?
I’m up here in New Hampshire watching her talk to a group of supporters, and I realized that I have been following this woman’s career for more than half my life. No, not just my adult life: the whole shebang. She came onto the national scene when I was a young man.
And for all that time, there has been a deafening chorus of critics telling me that she’s just the most wicked, evil, Machiavellian, nefarious individual in American history. She has “the soul of an East German border guard,” in the words of that nice Grover Norquist. She’s a “*****,” in the words of that nice Newt Gingrich. She’s a “dragon lady.” She’s “Elena Ceaușescu.” She’s “the Lady Macbeth of Little Rock.”
Long before “Benghazi” and her email server, there was “Whitewater” and “the Rose Law Firm” and “Vince Foster.” For those of us following her, we were promised scandal after scandal after scandal. And if no actual evidence ever turned up, well, that just proved how deviously clever she was.
So today I’m performing a public service on behalf of all the voters. I went back and re-read all the criticisms and attacks and best-selling “exposés” leveled at Hillary Rodham Clinton over the past quarter-century. And I’ve compiled a list of all her High Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Here they are:
1. When she was first lady, she murdered White House lawyer Vince Foster and then dumped his body in a park.
2. She drove Vince Foster to commit suicide through her temper tantrums.
3. She was having an affair with Vince Foster.
4. She’s a lesbian.
5. Chelsea isn’t Bill Clinton’s child.
6. She murdered Vince Foster to cover up that she once bought a tract of undeveloped land in Arkansas and lost money.
7. She murdered Vince Foster to cover up her role in firing the White House travel department.
8. After she murdered Vince Foster, she ransacked his office in the middle of the night and stole all the documents proving her guilt.
9. When Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, she was a partner in the state’s top law firm, and it sometimes did work involving the state government.
10. She once invested in commodities futures on the advice of a friend and made $100,000, proving she’s a crook.
11. She once invested in real estate on the advice of another friend and lost $100,000, also proving she’s a crook.
12. Unnamed and unverifiable sources have told Peggy Noonan things about the Clintons that are simply too terrible to repeat.
13. The personnel murdered at Benghazi make her the first secretary of state to lose overseas personnel to terrorism — apart from Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Madeleine Albright, George Schultz, Dean Rusk and some others.
14. Four State Department staff were murdered at Benghazi, compared with only 119 others murdered overseas under every secretary of state combined since World War II.
15. She illegally sent classified emails from her personal server, except that apparently they weren’t classified at the time.
16. She may have cynically wriggled around the email law by “technically” complying with it.
17. She once signed a lucrative book contract when she was a private citizen.
18. Donald Trump says she “should be in jail,” and he’s a serial bankrupt casino developer in Atlantic City, so he should know.
19. Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay says his “law-enforcement sources” tell him she is “about to be indicted” — and if a man once convicted of money laundering and conspiracy doesn’t have good law-enforcement sources, who does?
20. She’s a hard-left radical who wants to break up the nuclear family.
[h=1]All the terrible things Hillary Clinton has done — in one big list[/h]
By Brett Arends
Published: Feb 7, 2016 3:19 p.m. ET
[h=2]The so-called charges of the past 25 years are staggering
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Hillary Clinton looked bored at last year’s Benghazi hearing. That surely means she’s guilty of something, right?DOVER, N.H. (MarketWatch) — I have a confession to make: I can’t keep up.
Am I supposed to hate Hillary Rodham Clinton because she’s too left-wing, or too right-wing? Because she’s too feminist, or not feminist enough? Because she’s too clever a politician, or too clumsy?
Am I supposed to be mad that she gave speeches to rich bankers, or that she charged them too much money?
And for all that time, there has been a deafening chorus of critics telling me that she’s just the most wicked, evil, Machiavellian, nefarious individual in American history. She has “the soul of an East German border guard,” in the words of that nice Grover Norquist. She’s a “*****,” in the words of that nice Newt Gingrich. She’s a “dragon lady.” She’s “Elena Ceaușescu.” She’s “the Lady Macbeth of Little Rock.”
Long before “Benghazi” and her email server, there was “Whitewater” and “the Rose Law Firm” and “Vince Foster.” For those of us following her, we were promised scandal after scandal after scandal. And if no actual evidence ever turned up, well, that just proved how deviously clever she was.
So today I’m performing a public service on behalf of all the voters. I went back and re-read all the criticisms and attacks and best-selling “exposés” leveled at Hillary Rodham Clinton over the past quarter-century. And I’ve compiled a list of all her High Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Here they are:
1. When she was first lady, she murdered White House lawyer Vince Foster and then dumped his body in a park.
2. She drove Vince Foster to commit suicide through her temper tantrums.
3. She was having an affair with Vince Foster.
4. She’s a lesbian.
5. Chelsea isn’t Bill Clinton’s child.
6. She murdered Vince Foster to cover up that she once bought a tract of undeveloped land in Arkansas and lost money.
7. She murdered Vince Foster to cover up her role in firing the White House travel department.
8. After she murdered Vince Foster, she ransacked his office in the middle of the night and stole all the documents proving her guilt.
9. When Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, she was a partner in the state’s top law firm, and it sometimes did work involving the state government.
10. She once invested in commodities futures on the advice of a friend and made $100,000, proving she’s a crook.
11. She once invested in real estate on the advice of another friend and lost $100,000, also proving she’s a crook.
12. Unnamed and unverifiable sources have told Peggy Noonan things about the Clintons that are simply too terrible to repeat.
13. The personnel murdered at Benghazi make her the first secretary of state to lose overseas personnel to terrorism — apart from Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Madeleine Albright, George Schultz, Dean Rusk and some others.
14. Four State Department staff were murdered at Benghazi, compared with only 119 others murdered overseas under every secretary of state combined since World War II.
15. She illegally sent classified emails from her personal server, except that apparently they weren’t classified at the time.
16. She may have cynically wriggled around the email law by “technically” complying with it.
17. She once signed a lucrative book contract when she was a private citizen.
18. Donald Trump says she “should be in jail,” and he’s a serial bankrupt casino developer in Atlantic City, so he should know.
19. Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay says his “law-enforcement sources” tell him she is “about to be indicted” — and if a man once convicted of money laundering and conspiracy doesn’t have good law-enforcement sources, who does?
20. She’s a hard-left radical who wants to break up the nuclear family.
Re: Not surprised THAT Trump thread was closed. Lets do a why Trump will be the next
[h=1]7 Reasons Hillary Would Make a Terrible President[/h]
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[/h][h=2][/h][h=2]7 - You Mean a Lawmaker is Supposed to Pass Bills?[/h]As a U.S. Senator Hillary accomplished exactly nothing. Not a single piece of landmark legislation to her name.
[h=2]5 - Scandalmania[/h]Many of the Clinton era scandals in the 90’s – including the opening up of 900 confidential FBI files of political opponents – cast Hillary in a suspicious light. Nothing was proven, but you know how that goes.
[h=2]4 - Playing Political Games With Foreign Policy[/h]Hillary Clinton admitted her opposition to the troop surge in Iraq was politically motivated because she knew she would be facing Barack Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary.
[h=2]3 - Hillary Aide’s Special Treatment[/h]Huma Abedin, a “top adviser” to Hillary Clinton at the State Department (and wife of Anthony Weiner), was given a special arrangement that allowed her to earn money from a corporation formed by a Bill Clinton aide, and allowed her to serve in a role with the Clinton Foundation while she was a federal employee.Conveniently, Huma forgot to disclose the arrangement on the State Department financial disclosure forms. Oops.
[h=2]2 - Hillary Was Fired During The Watergate Investigation[/h]Hillary was fired for her work during the Watergate investigation. As her supervisor at the time put it, “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”
[h=2]1 - Benghazi: Four Americans Dead on Hillary's Watch[/h]Under her reign as Secretary of State Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were murdered when terrorists stormed the American compound in Benghazi, Libya. When she was questioned about the Obama Administration's initial story that the attack was provoked by an anti-Islam YouTube video, Clinton callously blurted, “What difference, at this point, does it make?” Really!?
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[h=1]7 Reasons Hillary Would Make a Terrible President[/h]
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[h=2]6 - First Lady Fail[/h]Hillary’s health care plan bombed so bad it cost the Democrats control of Congress, including control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years.[h=2]5 - Scandalmania[/h]Many of the Clinton era scandals in the 90’s – including the opening up of 900 confidential FBI files of political opponents – cast Hillary in a suspicious light. Nothing was proven, but you know how that goes.
[h=2]4 - Playing Political Games With Foreign Policy[/h]Hillary Clinton admitted her opposition to the troop surge in Iraq was politically motivated because she knew she would be facing Barack Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary.
[h=2]3 - Hillary Aide’s Special Treatment[/h]Huma Abedin, a “top adviser” to Hillary Clinton at the State Department (and wife of Anthony Weiner), was given a special arrangement that allowed her to earn money from a corporation formed by a Bill Clinton aide, and allowed her to serve in a role with the Clinton Foundation while she was a federal employee.Conveniently, Huma forgot to disclose the arrangement on the State Department financial disclosure forms. Oops.
[h=2]2 - Hillary Was Fired During The Watergate Investigation[/h]Hillary was fired for her work during the Watergate investigation. As her supervisor at the time put it, “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”
[h=2]1 - Benghazi: Four Americans Dead on Hillary's Watch[/h]Under her reign as Secretary of State Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were murdered when terrorists stormed the American compound in Benghazi, Libya. When she was questioned about the Obama Administration's initial story that the attack was provoked by an anti-Islam YouTube video, Clinton callously blurted, “What difference, at this point, does it make?” Really!?
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Re: Not surprised THAT Trump thread was closed. Lets do a why Trump will be the next
still awaiting criticism from the forum right wingers - if they had any principle at all they would point out JD's hypocrisy [it's a good bet that if they are going to criticize, they will direct their attacks at me
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still awaiting criticism from the forum right wingers - if they had any principle at all they would point out JD's hypocrisy [it's a good bet that if they are going to criticize, they will direct their attacks at me
]
Re: Not surprised THAT Trump thread was closed. Lets do a why Trump will be the next
[h=1]Hillary Clinton's Terrible Tax Plan[/h][h=2]Clinton's refusal to reform the corporate income tax is stunning.[/h]Veronique de Rugy | August 18, 2016
Michael Bryant/TNS/NewscomHillary Clinton recently laid out her plan for the economy, which boils down to more government, more spending, more taxes, more regulations, and more red tape. It translates into more debt and less growth. Some of the most outrageous provisions of her plan are those that target U.S. corporations abroad.
[h=3]RELATED ARTICLES[/h]
To be fair, Clinton's policies are very similar to those of President Barack Obama. They both want to prevent U.S. companies from leaving the country through a process called inversion. They both also fundamentally misunderstand the reasons behind inversions and try to fix the perceived problem by treating the symptoms rather than the causes.
The reason companies engage in inversions (usually by merging with a foreign firm to pay taxes abroad instead of at home) is obvious to most economists: U.S. companies doing business overseas are put at a terrible disadvantage because of our punishing corporate income tax system. The United States has the highest rate of all the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development countries (35 percent at the top federal level and close to 40 percent when you add state taxes), including all the big welfare states in Europe.
The United States also taxes income on a worldwide basis. This means that a U.S. company operating in Ireland pays the Irish rate first on its Irish income and then will pay the U.S. rate minus the tax paid in Ireland when it brings the income back to the United States. Contrast that with a French competitor doing business in Ireland. The French company pays the low Irish rate of 12.5 percent, period. To cope with the penalty or to try to remain competitive, U.S. companies are either not bringing their income back to the United States (there's supposedly $2 trillion of earned U.S. income abroad) or performing inversions.
As it happens, there is wide bipartisan support to reform the corporate income tax. But it wouldn't happen under a President Clinton. Her plan would change a key rule to make it more difficult to invert. Another portion of her plan would limit the deductibility of interest when it is supposedly used as a tool to avoid American taxes. Never mind that it would be up to the government to decide when the use of such a deduction would be appropriate or not.
Another provision is an "exit tax" on companies that relocate outside the United States without first repatriating earnings kept abroad. This one is particularly awful because it amounts to demanding a ransom from companies when they decide that enough is enough and that the survival of their business requires them to effectively change their citizenship.
Interestingly, Clinton may have gotten this authoritarian idea from her husband, who enacted a law in 1996 that imposes an exit tax on people who decide to move abroad and change their citizenship to avoid the same punishing tax system. It's worth noting that the United States is one of the very few countries taxing individuals on worldwide income.
What's stunning is that Clinton's refusal to reform the corporate income tax doesn't fit well with her claim that she wants to help American workers and that she cares about rejuvenating left-behind communities, such as Detroit. The economic literature shows that workers are shouldering the burden of the corporate income tax.
Writing in The Wall Street Journal, the American Enterprise Institute's Kevin Hassett and Aparna Mathur note, "Our empirical analysis, which used data we gathered on international tax rates and manufacturing wages in 72 countries over 22 years, confirmed that the corporate tax is for the most part paid by workers." In a piece appropriately called "The Cure for Wage Stagnation," they also cite works by the University of Michigan and Harvard University, among others. For instance, they write, "In (a) 2009 paper, (Kansas City Fed economist Alison) Felix and co-author James R. Hines of the University of Michigan discovered that the effects of lower tax rates are especially strong for union workers."
You would think that Clinton would be more favorable to helping low-income Americans and union workers in particular. If she were, the way to go would be to reform the corporate income tax, not to arbitrarily prohibit companies from moving to where tax laws are less punitive.
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[h=1]Hillary Clinton's Terrible Tax Plan[/h][h=2]Clinton's refusal to reform the corporate income tax is stunning.[/h]Veronique de Rugy | August 18, 2016
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To be fair, Clinton's policies are very similar to those of President Barack Obama. They both want to prevent U.S. companies from leaving the country through a process called inversion. They both also fundamentally misunderstand the reasons behind inversions and try to fix the perceived problem by treating the symptoms rather than the causes.
The reason companies engage in inversions (usually by merging with a foreign firm to pay taxes abroad instead of at home) is obvious to most economists: U.S. companies doing business overseas are put at a terrible disadvantage because of our punishing corporate income tax system. The United States has the highest rate of all the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development countries (35 percent at the top federal level and close to 40 percent when you add state taxes), including all the big welfare states in Europe.
The United States also taxes income on a worldwide basis. This means that a U.S. company operating in Ireland pays the Irish rate first on its Irish income and then will pay the U.S. rate minus the tax paid in Ireland when it brings the income back to the United States. Contrast that with a French competitor doing business in Ireland. The French company pays the low Irish rate of 12.5 percent, period. To cope with the penalty or to try to remain competitive, U.S. companies are either not bringing their income back to the United States (there's supposedly $2 trillion of earned U.S. income abroad) or performing inversions.
As it happens, there is wide bipartisan support to reform the corporate income tax. But it wouldn't happen under a President Clinton. Her plan would change a key rule to make it more difficult to invert. Another portion of her plan would limit the deductibility of interest when it is supposedly used as a tool to avoid American taxes. Never mind that it would be up to the government to decide when the use of such a deduction would be appropriate or not.
Another provision is an "exit tax" on companies that relocate outside the United States without first repatriating earnings kept abroad. This one is particularly awful because it amounts to demanding a ransom from companies when they decide that enough is enough and that the survival of their business requires them to effectively change their citizenship.
Interestingly, Clinton may have gotten this authoritarian idea from her husband, who enacted a law in 1996 that imposes an exit tax on people who decide to move abroad and change their citizenship to avoid the same punishing tax system. It's worth noting that the United States is one of the very few countries taxing individuals on worldwide income.
What's stunning is that Clinton's refusal to reform the corporate income tax doesn't fit well with her claim that she wants to help American workers and that she cares about rejuvenating left-behind communities, such as Detroit. The economic literature shows that workers are shouldering the burden of the corporate income tax.
Writing in The Wall Street Journal, the American Enterprise Institute's Kevin Hassett and Aparna Mathur note, "Our empirical analysis, which used data we gathered on international tax rates and manufacturing wages in 72 countries over 22 years, confirmed that the corporate tax is for the most part paid by workers." In a piece appropriately called "The Cure for Wage Stagnation," they also cite works by the University of Michigan and Harvard University, among others. For instance, they write, "In (a) 2009 paper, (Kansas City Fed economist Alison) Felix and co-author James R. Hines of the University of Michigan discovered that the effects of lower tax rates are especially strong for union workers."
You would think that Clinton would be more favorable to helping low-income Americans and union workers in particular. If she were, the way to go would be to reform the corporate income tax, not to arbitrarily prohibit companies from moving to where tax laws are less punitive.
COPYRIGHT 2016 CREATORS.COM
Re: Not surprised THAT Trump thread was closed. Lets do a why Trump will be the next
I posted this on another thread but will re-post it here because the anti-Hillary lies are being duplicated by JD:
It comes as no surprise that the continued attacks on Hillary stem from the fact that the Trump campaign is one devoid of any logic, any meaning, and any principle. Trump's candidacy is one of political and moral sterility which offers nothing in the way of constructivism. It is so utterly sterile, so meaningless, so futile, that many conservatives have abandoned the Republican party and have indicated they will sit out this election. In my many years of observing American politics, this is the first time I have ever witnessed anything like this.
The Trump campaign has caused dissension and instability among the normally entrenched solidity of the Republicans. If the angry, hate filled, and futile Trump campaign can so easily cause this type of breakdown among conservatives, just imagine how easily he will cause a similar dissolution among the entirety of the US socio-political system. You have only to read the continuously hate filled diatribes of his supporters in this forum to see for yourself what a menace Trump and his supporters are to this society.
I posted this on another thread but will re-post it here because the anti-Hillary lies are being duplicated by JD:
It comes as no surprise that the continued attacks on Hillary stem from the fact that the Trump campaign is one devoid of any logic, any meaning, and any principle. Trump's candidacy is one of political and moral sterility which offers nothing in the way of constructivism. It is so utterly sterile, so meaningless, so futile, that many conservatives have abandoned the Republican party and have indicated they will sit out this election. In my many years of observing American politics, this is the first time I have ever witnessed anything like this.
The Trump campaign has caused dissension and instability among the normally entrenched solidity of the Republicans. If the angry, hate filled, and futile Trump campaign can so easily cause this type of breakdown among conservatives, just imagine how easily he will cause a similar dissolution among the entirety of the US socio-political system. You have only to read the continuously hate filled diatribes of his supporters in this forum to see for yourself what a menace Trump and his supporters are to this society.
Re: Not surprised THAT Trump thread was closed. Lets do a why Trump will be the next
[h=1]Why an Embarrassing President Trump Might Be Good for America[/h][FONT="]“Trump is a clown! Trump is a bully! Trump is a bigot! Trump is a political greenhorn! Trump is a con man!”
Those are just a few of the expressions favored by other Republican presidential candidates to characterize the party’s frontrunner. And indeed Donald Trump may be all of those things. But that is why he may be good for America.
A century ago, Austrian neurologist Sigmund Freud posited that humans enjoy selective memory. We can intentionally disregard or altogether forget events and facts. You can think of America’s political establishment as selective memory in human form, helping us ignore painful issues in exchange for our vote.
Trump and his voters, on the other hand, are carrying a bucket of very cold reality that, if they make it to the White House, would make selective memory impossible. They may be unintentional bearers of truth who follow a political embarrassment, but once in power their political blunders just might accidentally save us from our greatest problems before it is too late.
Here are three of the critical matters that the missteps of a sloppy Trump presidency would make impossible for Americans to conveniently forget.
[FONT="]National Debt[/FONT]
Our current public debt is $14,000,000,000,000. Yes, 12 zeros! But that’s not all. Add to that another $5 trillion in Federal Accounts and our government shoulders over $19 trillion in debt. In 2015, we paid nearly $230 billion in annual interest on that debt. That roughly equals to the entire Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of Greece and is 10 times more than our annual Social Security expenditures.
The U.S. population currently stands at a little over323 million. That means if we were to pay off our national debt, each single American would need to ante up nearly $44,000.
We are in national denial about this. We are borrowing from the current generation to pay for the deeds of the past and in the process bankrupting the future. Remember Bernie Madoff? He also took money from current investors to pay existing ones. This didn’t end up so well either.
Until something extraordinary happens, few people will worry about the national debt until it’s too late. That’s because America’s creditors aren’t coming to collect that debt—yet. If China were to demand payment on the nearly $1.3 trillion in U.S. debt it holds, we wouldn’t have the money to repay it and the federal government would be forced to roll out austerity measures like those being adopted in Greece.
However unlikely this may sound, if such a thing were to take place, we would be forced to reassess our priorities. Many services we have come to enjoy would disappear. Crumbling roads and bridges? No money to fix those. Public education? No money. Affordable health care? Too bad, no doctor is working for free. Social Security checks? Sorry, no money to pass along.
[FONT="]Poverty[/FONT]
Nearly 15% of the U.S. population lives below the poverty line. That’s 50 million Americans. That’s more than the entire population of Spain or, more locally, the total populations of California and Ohio combined.
On the presidential campaign trail, we constantly hear about the Wall Street and auto industry bailouts, yet rarely do we hear about these 50 million people. But they, and their living conditions, are all too real. Some 130,000 of them live on the streets of Los Angeles. They don’t have representation in Washington. They don’t have lobbyists on K street. They don’t have a voice, and in many cases they lack housing and food.
[FONT="]The Middle East[/FONT]
The 9/11 attack was a strike on the entire world’s civilization. With very few exceptions, from London to Tehran, Moscow, and Shanghai, people largely shared our pain and supported our initial actions in Afghanistan. It was a time when we could have risen up, as we did against the Axis during the World War II, to unite the world against a common enemy.
But unlike in the 1940s, we didn’t have Roosevelt and Churchill to lead us, so we went to Iraq instead and invaded the country under the false pretext of nuclear weapons. We took out Iraqi leadership that had held together a deeply fractured sectarian society for nearly 30 years. And with ‘mission accomplished’ in the background, we then abruptly left.
What happened next we know all too well: Today, the Islamic State commands large swaths of Syria and Iraq, controls major oil fields, and has expanded its operations to at least a half a dozen other countries, including Libya, Afghanistan, and Nigeria. And it conducts terrorists acts across the globe, from Brussels to San Bernardino, Calif.
The big issue is not what we did back in 2003 nor our lazy response a decade later. The issue is what we are doing (or not doing) today. We don’t admit to our failed policies and we allow dishonest allies to take advantage of our confusion. NATO member Turkey and Saudi Arabia both reportedly helped the rise of the Islamic State by initially funding its operations. Our response? Give them more money.
[FONT="]Why Trump?[/FONT]
Regardless of what the Republican establishment throws at voters, many are steadfast in their support of Donald Trump. The other presidential candidates continue believing that Trump’s nearly 40% share of Republican primary voters will abandon him and join their camps. But it didn’t happen in recent primaries in Florida, Arizona, and Illinois, and it is not likely to happen any time soon. Every day, he is closer to the White House.
Would a Trump presidency fix our national problems? Probably not. But, his presidency should not be viewed through that lens. Rather, think of it like this: President Trump is perfectly suited to be the commander-in-chief of political incorrectness and international blunders. He will rip the bandage that covers the corrosion of our country. A Trump presidency would likely produce alarming missteps, yet in the process it would expose the real problems our nation faces—problems that, if not corrected today, will cause far graver damage tomorrow. The worse he does, the better it may be be for the country.
Let me use an analogy: When we maintain a dreadful diet, we steadily worsen our health. We somehow think that heart conditions happen to other people, to our neighbors and strangers on TV. But never to us. The relative ease of doing nothing trumps (no pun intended) the fear of negative outcomes. Today, as a nation we have clogged the walls of our arteries. That is where President Trump comes in.
The electorate that supports Trump is part of our national fabric, and it is playing the role of an organism that stimulates the stroke our society needs. They anticipate that President Trump will rip off that bandage and bring about a shock of awareness as to how things are, regardless of how politically incorrect or suicidal that may appear. They are fighting against our selective memory.
We are still an exceptional country. We are relatively young and capable of overcoming Trump-induced problems. He can’t do the sensational damage that pundits or his opponents describe. In a mature political structure like the U.S., there are formidable checks and balances, political and institutional constraints, and constitutional hurdles that prevent any one person from bringing upon catastrophic damage. But Trump can do enough. As in health, a minor stroke might be what we need to “make America great again.”
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[h=1]Why an Embarrassing President Trump Might Be Good for America[/h][FONT="]“Trump is a clown! Trump is a bully! Trump is a bigot! Trump is a political greenhorn! Trump is a con man!”
Those are just a few of the expressions favored by other Republican presidential candidates to characterize the party’s frontrunner. And indeed Donald Trump may be all of those things. But that is why he may be good for America.
A century ago, Austrian neurologist Sigmund Freud posited that humans enjoy selective memory. We can intentionally disregard or altogether forget events and facts. You can think of America’s political establishment as selective memory in human form, helping us ignore painful issues in exchange for our vote.
Trump and his voters, on the other hand, are carrying a bucket of very cold reality that, if they make it to the White House, would make selective memory impossible. They may be unintentional bearers of truth who follow a political embarrassment, but once in power their political blunders just might accidentally save us from our greatest problems before it is too late.
Here are three of the critical matters that the missteps of a sloppy Trump presidency would make impossible for Americans to conveniently forget.
[FONT="]National Debt[/FONT]
Our current public debt is $14,000,000,000,000. Yes, 12 zeros! But that’s not all. Add to that another $5 trillion in Federal Accounts and our government shoulders over $19 trillion in debt. In 2015, we paid nearly $230 billion in annual interest on that debt. That roughly equals to the entire Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of Greece and is 10 times more than our annual Social Security expenditures.
The U.S. population currently stands at a little over323 million. That means if we were to pay off our national debt, each single American would need to ante up nearly $44,000.
We are in national denial about this. We are borrowing from the current generation to pay for the deeds of the past and in the process bankrupting the future. Remember Bernie Madoff? He also took money from current investors to pay existing ones. This didn’t end up so well either.
Until something extraordinary happens, few people will worry about the national debt until it’s too late. That’s because America’s creditors aren’t coming to collect that debt—yet. If China were to demand payment on the nearly $1.3 trillion in U.S. debt it holds, we wouldn’t have the money to repay it and the federal government would be forced to roll out austerity measures like those being adopted in Greece.
However unlikely this may sound, if such a thing were to take place, we would be forced to reassess our priorities. Many services we have come to enjoy would disappear. Crumbling roads and bridges? No money to fix those. Public education? No money. Affordable health care? Too bad, no doctor is working for free. Social Security checks? Sorry, no money to pass along.
[FONT="]Poverty[/FONT]
Nearly 15% of the U.S. population lives below the poverty line. That’s 50 million Americans. That’s more than the entire population of Spain or, more locally, the total populations of California and Ohio combined.
On the presidential campaign trail, we constantly hear about the Wall Street and auto industry bailouts, yet rarely do we hear about these 50 million people. But they, and their living conditions, are all too real. Some 130,000 of them live on the streets of Los Angeles. They don’t have representation in Washington. They don’t have lobbyists on K street. They don’t have a voice, and in many cases they lack housing and food.
[FONT="]The Middle East[/FONT]
The 9/11 attack was a strike on the entire world’s civilization. With very few exceptions, from London to Tehran, Moscow, and Shanghai, people largely shared our pain and supported our initial actions in Afghanistan. It was a time when we could have risen up, as we did against the Axis during the World War II, to unite the world against a common enemy.
But unlike in the 1940s, we didn’t have Roosevelt and Churchill to lead us, so we went to Iraq instead and invaded the country under the false pretext of nuclear weapons. We took out Iraqi leadership that had held together a deeply fractured sectarian society for nearly 30 years. And with ‘mission accomplished’ in the background, we then abruptly left.
What happened next we know all too well: Today, the Islamic State commands large swaths of Syria and Iraq, controls major oil fields, and has expanded its operations to at least a half a dozen other countries, including Libya, Afghanistan, and Nigeria. And it conducts terrorists acts across the globe, from Brussels to San Bernardino, Calif.
The big issue is not what we did back in 2003 nor our lazy response a decade later. The issue is what we are doing (or not doing) today. We don’t admit to our failed policies and we allow dishonest allies to take advantage of our confusion. NATO member Turkey and Saudi Arabia both reportedly helped the rise of the Islamic State by initially funding its operations. Our response? Give them more money.
[FONT="]Why Trump?[/FONT]
Regardless of what the Republican establishment throws at voters, many are steadfast in their support of Donald Trump. The other presidential candidates continue believing that Trump’s nearly 40% share of Republican primary voters will abandon him and join their camps. But it didn’t happen in recent primaries in Florida, Arizona, and Illinois, and it is not likely to happen any time soon. Every day, he is closer to the White House.
Would a Trump presidency fix our national problems? Probably not. But, his presidency should not be viewed through that lens. Rather, think of it like this: President Trump is perfectly suited to be the commander-in-chief of political incorrectness and international blunders. He will rip the bandage that covers the corrosion of our country. A Trump presidency would likely produce alarming missteps, yet in the process it would expose the real problems our nation faces—problems that, if not corrected today, will cause far graver damage tomorrow. The worse he does, the better it may be be for the country.
Let me use an analogy: When we maintain a dreadful diet, we steadily worsen our health. We somehow think that heart conditions happen to other people, to our neighbors and strangers on TV. But never to us. The relative ease of doing nothing trumps (no pun intended) the fear of negative outcomes. Today, as a nation we have clogged the walls of our arteries. That is where President Trump comes in.
The electorate that supports Trump is part of our national fabric, and it is playing the role of an organism that stimulates the stroke our society needs. They anticipate that President Trump will rip off that bandage and bring about a shock of awareness as to how things are, regardless of how politically incorrect or suicidal that may appear. They are fighting against our selective memory.
We are still an exceptional country. We are relatively young and capable of overcoming Trump-induced problems. He can’t do the sensational damage that pundits or his opponents describe. In a mature political structure like the U.S., there are formidable checks and balances, political and institutional constraints, and constitutional hurdles that prevent any one person from bringing upon catastrophic damage. But Trump can do enough. As in health, a minor stroke might be what we need to “make America great again.”
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Re: Not surprised THAT Trump thread was closed. Lets do a why Trump will be the next
If Trump gets elected, I am going back into private business again. If not, no way will I waste my time. Hillary will pass tax rates that will make it unfeasible to be in business. She also will pass laws that just smother business's and stifle any spark of innovation.
If Trump gets elected, I am going back into private business again. If not, no way will I waste my time. Hillary will pass tax rates that will make it unfeasible to be in business. She also will pass laws that just smother business's and stifle any spark of innovation.
You don't deserve the money you supposedly make by working 80+ hours a week.
You don't build your own business. Those roads by your house/business...others built those...so you have to forfeit part of what you make.
It's also not fair that some people don't have money while you potentially have money in the bank.
[video=youtube;YKjPI6no5ng]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjPI6no5ng[/video]
You don't build your own business. Those roads by your house/business...others built those...so you have to forfeit part of what you make.
It's also not fair that some people don't have money while you potentially have money in the bank.
[video=youtube;YKjPI6no5ng]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjPI6no5ng[/video]
Re: Not surprised THAT Trump thread was closed. Lets do a why Trump will be the next
[h=1]Trump may have found the perfect attack to use against Clinton[/h][FONT="]By Eddie Scarry
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[FONT="][/FONT]One way to know Donald Trump’s onslaught against Hillary Clinton’s “stamina” is working to his benefit: Nearly every national newspaper columnist and cable talking head is either calling him an idiot or a monster for doing it.
Mainstream journalists and commentators were tickled when Trump dubbed his former Republican rival Jeb Bush “low energy,” but since he’s moved on to Clinton, the humor seems to have worn off.
In recent days, Trump has said Clinton “lacks the mental and physical stamina” to deal with ISIS; that she “gives a short speech, then she goes home, goes to sleep”; and that she “takes a lot of weekends off.”
That Trump is mocking Clinton for having bedhead is too much for the political-media class.
The Washington Post actually fact-checked his statement on her stamina, giving it the paper’s worst rating for what it deems to be a lie. “Trump has claimed twice, without proof, that Clinton lacks the physical and mental stamina to be president,” the ruling said. “In the absence of any evidence, he earns Four Pinocchios.”
Curious that the Post, in earnest, would fact-check Trump’s opinion on his opponent’s energy level. The paper didn’t bother to investigate the veracity of Clinton’s claim in late May that Trump “lacks the temperament to lead our nation and the free world.”
In the absence of any evidence that Trump “lacks the temperament” to lead the country, she earns four pillows.
Liberal columnist Ruth Marcus, emotionally affronted by Trump’s attacks, said they have “no basis in reality, and no place in a presidential campaign.”
Except discussions about the personal health and physical fitness of someone who is or wants to be president always do — in every campaign, ever. It’s why candidates are expected to release new medical evaluations at some point during their campaigns.
It’s why the public suffered through a seemingly endless stream of articles wondering if John McCain, 71 years old when he ran in 2008 against Barack Obama, was about to die any moment. (“Is John McCain too old to be president?” asked the Associated Press.)
It’s why there’s still a debate about whether Ronald Reagan was mentally all there during his second term. (Bill O’Reilly’s 2015 “Killing Reagan” book is the latest salvo.) Time magazine ran a cover photo of Bob Dole in 1996 overlaid with the text: “Is Dole Too Old For the Job?”
Hillary released some of her medical information last year and it turns out she takes medication for an underactive thyroid, one of the main symptoms of which is … fatigue.
But Trump isn’t allowed to call her sleepy.
“If you don’t have a medical degree, shut up,” Bloomberg Politics reporter John Heilemann said of Trump and his supporters who have echoed his hits on Clinton.
MSNBC’s Chris Matthews said the attacks were “based on no information at all, he’s just saying it.”
It’s never a problem, though, for the media to regularly evaluate Trump’s mental status.
Earlier this month, Kathleen Parker of the Washington Post wondered if Trump has brain damage or “atrophy” from old age.
“If so, then this would help explain his impulsiveness, his inappropriate language, his quick temper and a ‘mean’ streak,” she said.
It’s actually Clinton who in 2012 passed out from dehydration and suffered a concussion.
But shh! That has no place in this campaign!
MSNBC host Joe Scarborough said on his show one day earlier this month that he spent the previous day getting phone calls “and everybody was asking me about [Trump’s] mental health . . . Everybody was calling me saying, ‘What’s happening with him? What’s wrong with him?’ ”
In June, New York Times columnist David Brooks offered that Trump may have an “inability to identify and describe emotions in the self.” The next month, he questioned whether Trump is a narcissist with “unstable self-esteem.”
None of these people, as it happens, is a licensed psychiatrist.
In this election, the media have deemed it entirely fair for journalists to render a diagnosis on Trump’s mental health. But it’s out of bounds for him to fight back by conjuring up images of Clinton in a nightgown.
If Trump has ever landed a perfect punch, this is probably it
[h=1]Trump may have found the perfect attack to use against Clinton[/h][FONT="]By Eddie Scarry
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August 23, 2016 | 8:34pm
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Photo: Getty Images
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[FONT="][/FONT]One way to know Donald Trump’s onslaught against Hillary Clinton’s “stamina” is working to his benefit: Nearly every national newspaper columnist and cable talking head is either calling him an idiot or a monster for doing it.
Mainstream journalists and commentators were tickled when Trump dubbed his former Republican rival Jeb Bush “low energy,” but since he’s moved on to Clinton, the humor seems to have worn off.
In recent days, Trump has said Clinton “lacks the mental and physical stamina” to deal with ISIS; that she “gives a short speech, then she goes home, goes to sleep”; and that she “takes a lot of weekends off.”
That Trump is mocking Clinton for having bedhead is too much for the political-media class.
The Washington Post actually fact-checked his statement on her stamina, giving it the paper’s worst rating for what it deems to be a lie. “Trump has claimed twice, without proof, that Clinton lacks the physical and mental stamina to be president,” the ruling said. “In the absence of any evidence, he earns Four Pinocchios.”
Curious that the Post, in earnest, would fact-check Trump’s opinion on his opponent’s energy level. The paper didn’t bother to investigate the veracity of Clinton’s claim in late May that Trump “lacks the temperament to lead our nation and the free world.”
In the absence of any evidence that Trump “lacks the temperament” to lead the country, she earns four pillows.
Liberal columnist Ruth Marcus, emotionally affronted by Trump’s attacks, said they have “no basis in reality, and no place in a presidential campaign.”
Except discussions about the personal health and physical fitness of someone who is or wants to be president always do — in every campaign, ever. It’s why candidates are expected to release new medical evaluations at some point during their campaigns.
It’s why the public suffered through a seemingly endless stream of articles wondering if John McCain, 71 years old when he ran in 2008 against Barack Obama, was about to die any moment. (“Is John McCain too old to be president?” asked the Associated Press.)
It’s why there’s still a debate about whether Ronald Reagan was mentally all there during his second term. (Bill O’Reilly’s 2015 “Killing Reagan” book is the latest salvo.) Time magazine ran a cover photo of Bob Dole in 1996 overlaid with the text: “Is Dole Too Old For the Job?”
Hillary released some of her medical information last year and it turns out she takes medication for an underactive thyroid, one of the main symptoms of which is … fatigue.
But Trump isn’t allowed to call her sleepy.
“If you don’t have a medical degree, shut up,” Bloomberg Politics reporter John Heilemann said of Trump and his supporters who have echoed his hits on Clinton.
MSNBC’s Chris Matthews said the attacks were “based on no information at all, he’s just saying it.”
It’s never a problem, though, for the media to regularly evaluate Trump’s mental status.
Earlier this month, Kathleen Parker of the Washington Post wondered if Trump has brain damage or “atrophy” from old age.
“If so, then this would help explain his impulsiveness, his inappropriate language, his quick temper and a ‘mean’ streak,” she said.
It’s actually Clinton who in 2012 passed out from dehydration and suffered a concussion.
But shh! That has no place in this campaign!
MSNBC host Joe Scarborough said on his show one day earlier this month that he spent the previous day getting phone calls “and everybody was asking me about [Trump’s] mental health . . . Everybody was calling me saying, ‘What’s happening with him? What’s wrong with him?’ ”
In June, New York Times columnist David Brooks offered that Trump may have an “inability to identify and describe emotions in the self.” The next month, he questioned whether Trump is a narcissist with “unstable self-esteem.”
None of these people, as it happens, is a licensed psychiatrist.
In this election, the media have deemed it entirely fair for journalists to render a diagnosis on Trump’s mental health. But it’s out of bounds for him to fight back by conjuring up images of Clinton in a nightgown.
If Trump has ever landed a perfect punch, this is probably it
Re: Not surprised THAT Trump thread was closed. Lets do a why Trump will be the next
At least I tell it like it is. The truth has set me free to be real.
I don't white wash like just about every Hill supporter here does.
Did you read the whole article?
It said a lot of things about Trump. Mostly positive.
Trump knows how to negotiate. I took a 3 day negotiating seminar years ago. You have to have a little bit of con in you to negotiate.
Many of us inter act with different people differently based on personal dynamics.
Your no different.
When people do job interviews, there is a bit of show manship going on.
When you go on first dates, you put your best foot forward.
Are you a con for doing that?
At least I tell it like it is. The truth has set me free to be real.
I don't white wash like just about every Hill supporter here does.
Did you read the whole article?
It said a lot of things about Trump. Mostly positive.
Trump knows how to negotiate. I took a 3 day negotiating seminar years ago. You have to have a little bit of con in you to negotiate.
Many of us inter act with different people differently based on personal dynamics.
Your no different.
When people do job interviews, there is a bit of show manship going on.
When you go on first dates, you put your best foot forward.
Are you a con for doing that?
I relate conning to scamming people. I don't scam a woman out of her time if I go out on a date. I don't scam a potential employer out of his or her time if I have an interview. Con man has a negative attribution to it. In fact, the definition for a con man is a man who cheats or tricks someone by means of a confidence game. So how is cheating good?
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Re: Not surprised THAT Trump thread was closed. Lets do a why Trump will be the next
Trump will win because he has spent $52,003,469 of his own cake to procure a $400,000 annual salary job for a max potential earning of 2 terms subtotaling $3,200,000. In other words with that kind of determined fiscal responsibility minded thinking, the man cannot afford to lose.
He will make a good president because obviously the above factoid is indisputable proof of his altruism and patriotic love of America(ns).
Let's do Hillary next!
Trump will win because he has spent $52,003,469 of his own cake to procure a $400,000 annual salary job for a max potential earning of 2 terms subtotaling $3,200,000. In other words with that kind of determined fiscal responsibility minded thinking, the man cannot afford to lose.
He will make a good president because obviously the above factoid is indisputable proof of his altruism and patriotic love of America(ns).
Let's do Hillary next!
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Re: Not surprised THAT Trump thread was closed. Lets do a why Trump will be the next
I think Utah and JD are right when they say peacenik is a paid Hillary agitator. My dad was involved as a volunteer for local, state and federal campaigns. The stories he would tell us about the things that politicians would do to get elected would make my head spin.
I find his posts frighteningly biased. My dad said this is what paid agitators do.
He should be thankful he is on a Christian chat site.
I have heard that on other sites he would be thrown off if he did such things.
I think Utah and JD are right when they say peacenik is a paid Hillary agitator. My dad was involved as a volunteer for local, state and federal campaigns. The stories he would tell us about the things that politicians would do to get elected would make my head spin.
I find his posts frighteningly biased. My dad said this is what paid agitators do.
He should be thankful he is on a Christian chat site.
I have heard that on other sites he would be thrown off if he did such things.