Not surprised THAT Trump thread was closed. Lets do a why Trump will be the next Prez

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^ see what you did Utah? now this supposedly pro Trump thread descended into an anti Hillary thread


the hate and lies just never ends
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How can you defend Hilary?! She is a career criminal and a habitual liar. You must be so oblivious to have no concern with those reasons alone.

Trump was not my first candidate, he's not perfect....far from it. But given the choice he is much better than Clinton. As a Christan I could never vote for someone who has voting records and supports for the slaughtered of millions of babies. In the end I answer to God and frankly I don't care what man thinks.
 
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I think Utah and JD are right when they say peacenik is a paid Hillary agitator. My dad was involved as a volunteer for local, state and federal campaigns. The stories he would tell us about the things that politicians would do to get elected would make my head spin.
I find his posts frighteningly biased. My dad said this is what paid agitators do.
He should be thankful he is on a Christian chat site.
I have heard that on other sites he would be thrown off if he did such things.
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No doubt Hillary will do anything to get elected, even colluding with the DNC to beat Bernie Sanders (the most trustworthy candidate). However, I doubt Peacenik is really a "paid" Hillary agitator. I will admit, he has made some outlandish claims, such as the media favoring conservatives, and he definitely is wrong when it comes to his positive sentiments of Hillary, but I do think it's unfair to slander him like this. He is passionate, he is a bit biased for Hillary's side... but frankly, I don't see him anymore biased than some Trump supporters on this Christian forum. He is the southern polar end and there are equally extreme northern polar ends.

As for this being a Christian site, that is why I came here honestly. I hope for a Christian community where we separate ourselves from the secular forums by showing love instead of spewing filth, animosity, and a lack of respect. I hope for unity in accepting Christ as our Saviour in spite of our political differences. Peacenik, while being extreme in some of his beliefs, has always treated me with love and respect when we disagree. For this reason, I make this post and give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
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Re: Not surprised THAT Trump thread was closed. Lets do a why Trump will be the next

I want to give him the benefit of innocent until proven guilty. I can't say for sure if he is or isn't what she says about him. What I have said at times about him. He doesn't help his case, that's for sure.
It's the way he goes about his postings that make me suspicious. He never, that I know of, admits to any Hillary flaws. He bashes Trump on things that are not founded. With all of Trumps issues, he doesn't need to do that. He rarely, if ever, has replied directly, and usually not even in directly, to certain pointed nitty gritty type questions I have asked him. He is very pro Muslim, and calls people here that believe Islam is a violent religion Islamophobics. He has mentioned certain things here that most of us would shy away from as Christians. Last, he has told me straight out he wants to "defeat me" and how "easy it is to defeat me." Add all this up, and I see someone who could very well be some of the things FNJ says. And that I have said to about him. And some others here also.
 
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I'll vote my conscience before I vote for either Trump OR Hillary. I'm not in a swing state, so I don't care if my vote is "wasted". Frankly...I feel like the system is pretty rigged when it comes to high profile elections, but let me remove my tinfoil hat to get onto my point.:rolleyes:

To me, they're both corrupt, liars, unstable and prideful. I understand that we have a lot at stake this election, but I think what we forget is that the "establishment" WANTS us to focus on the presidency as being the ultimate win or ultimate loss. That is, if our candidate does not win..well we have no hope of making a positive difference in our country...

Yes, the president has enormous power, but he or she is limited by checks and balances.

I won't go into my opinions of congress, but I will say that I hope that, if anything, people will open their eyes to the power of the local and state votes. We need good local and state leaders too! If anything, I am thankful that Trump's run for presidency has shown the true colors of BOTH major parties and the underbelly of American politics is in full view.

I think the people are waking up, but now we must continue our "fight" beyond the presidential election.
 
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I'll vote my conscience before I vote for either Trump OR Hillary. I'm not in a swing state, so I don't care if my vote is "wasted". Frankly...I feel like the system is pretty rigged when it comes to high profile elections, but let me remove my tinfoil hat to get onto my point.:rolleyes:

To me, they're both corrupt, liars, unstable and prideful. I understand that we have a lot at stake this election, but I think what we forget is that the "establishment" WANTS us to focus on the presidency as being the ultimate win or ultimate loss. That is, if our candidate does not win..well we have no hope of making a positive difference in our country...

Yes, the president has enormous power, but he or she is limited by checks and balances.

I won't go into my opinions of congress, but I will say that I hope that, if anything, people will open their eyes to the power of the local and state votes. We need good local and state leaders too! If anything, I am thankful that Trump's run for presidency has shown the true colors of BOTH major parties and the underbelly of American politics is in full view.

I think the people are waking up, but now we must continue our "fight" beyond the presidential election.
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I'd like this post twice if possible. You have a firm grasp of politico reality imo and I agree as do many others not drunk on the media 3 letter network punch. But whatever, right? Strangers in a strange land are afforded the perk of non emotional investment.
 
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SteelToedKodiak said:
I'd like this post twice if possible. You have a firm grasp of politico reality imo and I agree as do many others not drunk on the media 3 letter network punch. But whatever, right? Strangers in a strange land are afforded the perk of non emotional investment.
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:eek: Thank you!

Yes, this is true.
 
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Re: Not surprised THAT Trump thread was closed. Lets do a why Trump will be the next

The supreme court judge issue.
 
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The supreme court judge issue.
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Yes, and here are a few more:
* Healthcare
* Her stance on Middle East refugee immigration
* The possibility of her abolishing the 2nd Amendment
 
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JosephsDreams said:
I want to give him the benefit of innocent until proven guilty. I can't say for sure if he is or isn't what she says about him. What I have said at times about him. He doesn't help his case, that's for sure.
It's the way he goes about his postings that make me suspicious. He never, that I know of, admits to any Hillary flaws. He bashes Trump on things that are not founded. With all of Trumps issues, he doesn't need to do that. He rarely, if ever, has replied directly, and usually not even in directly, to certain pointed nitty gritty type questions I have asked him. He is very pro Muslim, and calls people here that believe Islam is a violent religion Islamophobics. He has mentioned certain things here that most of us would shy away from as Christians. Last, he has told me straight out he wants to "defeat me" and how "easy it is to defeat me." Add all this up, and I see someone who could very well be some of the things FNJ says. And that I have said to about him. And some others here also.
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Suffice it to say that no one with any brains takes him seriously.
 
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FlowersnJesus said:
I think Utah and JD are right when they say peacenik is a paid Hillary agitator. My dad was involved as a volunteer for local, state and federal campaigns. The stories he would tell us about the things that politicians would do to get elected would make my head spin.
I find his posts frighteningly biased. My dad said this is what paid agitators do.
He should be thankful he is on a Christian chat site.
I have heard that on other sites he would be thrown off if he did such things.
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The bias in favor Trump has been far worse.

"Thrown off" ???? That's a laugh considering how it is the right wingers who have resorted to name calling and personal attacks. And when they have done so, those are the threads that got closed.


And yes, I am grateful to be on a Christian website where anyone can post the TRUTH as shown in that video of Trump being held accountable for creating jobs overseas thereby causing Americans to lose their jobs while people like you applaud his actions. Are you grateful for the revelation of this TRUTH?
 
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How can you defend Hilary?! She is a career criminal and a habitual liar. You must be so oblivious to have no concern with those reasons alone.

Trump was not my first candidate, he's not perfect....far from it. But given the choice he is much better than Clinton. As a Christan I could never vote for someone who has voting records and supports for the slaughtered of millions of babies. In the end I answer to God and frankly I don't care what man thinks.
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How can anyone defend Trump? If Hillary is a liar what does that make Trump when PoliFact reveals his lies are FAR worse:



Trump Lies – Exposing the many lies of Donald J. Trump



Again I ask - why are people here so blind to Trump's infinite lies and hate? What proof do you have that he would make a better president?
 
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^ see what you did Utah? now this supposedly pro Trump thread descended into an anti Hillary thread...the hate and lies just never ends
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Stole your thunder, did I, parasite?

Take it up with someone else not on Medicaid because I don't care.
 
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How can you defend Hilary?! She is a career criminal and a habitual liar. You must be so oblivious to have no concern with those reasons alone.

Trump was not my first candidate, he's not perfect....far from it. But given the choice he is much better than Clinton. As a Christan I could never vote for someone who has voting records and supports for the slaughtered of millions of babies. In the end I answer to God and frankly I don't care what man thinks.
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Did I say you were a cool chick?

You're flat out awesome!
 
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Stole your thunder, did I, parasite?

Take it up with someone else not on Medicaid because I don't care.
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''parasite''


Notice again the personal attack.

There is just no end to the radical right wing hate on this forum. It certainly isn't Christianity that is promoting such hate as such misconduct is expressly forbidden in the Bible. So where are the calls to have the attackers banned from the forum Christians?
 
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No doubt Hillary will do anything to get elected, even colluding with the DNC to beat Bernie Sanders (the most trustworthy candidate). However, I doubt Peacenik is really a "paid" Hillary agitator. I will admit, he has made some outlandish claims, such as the media favoring conservatives, and he definitely is wrong when it comes to his positive sentiments of Hillary, but I do think it's unfair to slander him like this. He is passionate, he is a bit biased for Hillary's side... but frankly, I don't see him anymore biased than some Trump supporters on this Christian forum. He is the southern polar end and there are equally extreme northern polar ends.

As for this being a Christian site, that is why I came here honestly. I hope for a Christian community where we separate ourselves from the secular forums by showing love instead of spewing filth, animosity, and a lack of respect. I hope for unity in accepting Christ as our Saviour in spite of our political differences. Peacenik, while being extreme in some of his beliefs, has always treated me with love and respect when we disagree. For this reason, I make this post and give him the benefit of the doubt.
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I notice you defend Trump supporters in like manner.

Sit down Waldo!!!
 
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No doubt Hillary will do anything to get elected, even colluding with the DNC to beat Bernie Sanders (the most trustworthy candidate). However, I doubt Peacenik is really a "paid" Hillary agitator. I will admit, he has made some outlandish claims, such as the media favoring conservatives, and he definitely is wrong when it comes to his positive sentiments of Hillary, but I do think it's unfair to slander him like this. He is passionate, he is a bit biased for Hillary's side... but frankly, I don't see him anymore biased than some Trump supporters on this Christian forum. He is the southern polar end and there are equally extreme northern polar ends.

As for this being a Christian site, that is why I came here honestly. I hope for a Christian community where we separate ourselves from the secular forums by showing love instead of spewing filth, animosity, and a lack of respect. I hope for unity in accepting Christ as our Saviour in spite of our political differences. Peacenik, while being extreme in some of his beliefs, has always treated me with love and respect when we disagree. For this reason, I make this post and give him the benefit of the doubt.
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One thing's for sure - you have NOT seen me call for the murder of anyone as has been done by one of the more extreme members of the far right on this forum. As with all the other hate spewed here, there was not one word of criticism from the professing Christians on this forum when that was done.
 
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peacenik said:
How can anyone defend Trump? If Hillary is a liar what does that make Trump when PoliFact reveals his lies are FAR worse:



Trump Lies – Exposing the many lies of Donald J. Trump



Again I ask - why are people here so blind to Trump's infinite lies and hate? What proof do you have that he would make a better president?
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That makes Trump a "four less dead Americans" liar.

You didn't happen to watch the nonexistent video that caused the murder of an American diplomat and his three bodyguards, did you? I didn't think so.
 
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That makes Trump a "four less dead Americans" liar.

You didn't happen to watch the nonexistent video that caused the murder of an American diplomat and his three bodyguards, did you? I didn't think so.
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More Americans were killed in USA foreign embassies under Bush but that was not deemed to have been a matter to disqualify him from the White House.
 
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