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Fenner

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It is OK, believe it or not there are many humans with lots of different thoughts out there (even of sphere Earth *gasps*). I was simply letting everyone know that what I present is where I am at in this point in time, and I'm allowed to refine my thoughts as I go along in my life just like you. Nothing to get worked over about in my opinion.

You're right and I didn't start this thread to make fun of pick on anyone who believes in a flats earth. And I appreciate your replies.
 

p_rehbein

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You're right and I didn't start this thread to make fun of pick on anyone who believes in a flats earth. And I appreciate your replies.
Maybe not, but I'm sure glad you started it SO I CAN! :)
 
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jennymae

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Must be expensive being a flat earther. When most airline companies are using the advantages a globe is offering, the flat earthers will have to go straight from A to B, and that might could be expensive if the flight was going from Barcelona to Miami:p

And what about the horizon?
 

p_rehbein

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Must be expensive being a flat earther. When most airline companies are using the advantages a globe is offering, the flat earthers will have to go straight from A to B, and that might could be expensive if the flight was going from Barcelona to Miami:p

And what about the horizon?

Don't worry. They will continue to offer phone service...........flat or round
 

melita916

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i have no idea what's going on in here.

:eek:
 
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BeyondET

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For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.Matthew 24:24

In the movie, “The Usual Suspects,” a meek and crippled con man named Verbal Kint is held for questioning about a massacre on a ship docked in Los Angeles. He tells the interrogator, David Kujan an elaborate story of a seemingly mythical crime lord, Keyser Söze, making up events as he goes along. The more questions asked him, the more convoluted his ruse becomes. We see mild-mannered Kint cunningly eyeing information from a bulletin board behind the investigator and using the bits of info to enhance his frightening tale of the ruthless murderer, Söze. And as Kint maneuvres Kujan through his labyrinth of fantastic lies, you see the investigator growing more and more perplexed.

Kint moves like a snake. He slowly but surely hypnotizes the interrogator and gets him to go exactly where he wants him. He acts just like the devil by craftily spinning lies mixed in with truth until the investigator is exasperated.

Toward the end of the film, we the viewers are shocked to realize that we have been duped as much as Investigator Kujan. For although we witness how Kint weaves his deceptive tale throughout the entire story, we are unaware until the very end that Kint himself is the actual brutal crime lord, “Keyser Söze.”

And yet we’re still not even sure Keyser Söze is his real name! We are left completely baffled and wondering how much was true and how much was false. Kint is finally released as the investigator is convinced he’s just a harmless cripple. Kint easily slips from the police station, walks down the street and suddenly loses his limp. He’s not a cripple after all!

Kint gets into a car with his crime partner and utters the last line of the movie:

“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. And like that... he is gone.” And the screen goes black.

The premise of this statement is that the devil is real and active in the world, corrupting people and causing them to turn away from God. He wants to take attention off himself and get people to focus on other things. He makes them skeptical about life, paranoid about one another, doubting the Sovereignty of God, doubting the supernatural and the devil's own existence. He gets people to believe their real enemy is each other.

This skepticism causes men and women to let down their guard and makes them more vulnerable to worldly temptations. Conspiracy theories keep people from trusting God. Rather than live a simple life of joy and liberty in Christ Jesus, skeptics focus on the worries and cares of this life.

The fact is, if you’re focused on figuring out what shape the earth is, the devil has you spellbound. The Lord tells us not to be anxious about anything and to trust he is in control. For the mind governed by the flesh (intellect) is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. The carnal (worldly) mind is not only an enemy to God, but enmity itself.

And if you’re not walking in the spirit, if your eyes are on this world, no matter if it's flat or round, you’re being duped by the devil.
i agree with the scripture part for sure and some movies can be alittle elaborate, somewhat far out as far as being of spiritual truth and others can be of truth just depends on the intentions of the writer/director of the film. thus a person would surely need to be wise of it being a worldly temptation or not.

Once upon a time people feared crossing the ocean thinking it was flat and a ship would fall off the edge if traveled to far kind of crazy thinking in my opinion, good thing someone took the chance and faced that fear.

The latter part of being a fact that the devil has a person spellbound if focusing on what shape the earth is would fall in the same category in my opinion. The earth was created by God and not of worldly temptation, so if God created it than its ok to ponder focus or pursue the matter. it would be unhealthy to become sick or loose complete control of your mind in focusing on it though I doubt anybody as lost their mind being consumed by the thought of it though it could happen and I would say that wouldn't be a good idea to continue in the pursuit. but the only way evil would have a spellbound affect on the subject would be if a person thinks hell awaits for anyone who thinks the world is flat or sphere or whatever that's just nonsense to think that. to many times people think the devil has an affect on every single thought a person has of something in my view that would be nonsense as well.
 
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Interesting proof of a circular world.

There is a sky at night tool which shows the stars at a point in the night.
As the earth rotates the stars move. Now certain stars are close to the point
of rotation so stay more still than those further away from this point.

You can see both the effect in a 24hr clock and the 6 month cycle.

Now if you cannot work this out, I suggest even the question itself is actually
beyond you. You could argue this is more an intelligence test than anything
to do with faith.
 
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Newton won fame because using gravity, and the effects that are observed in
sky, he predicted the size of the earth, moon and sun in mass terms, along with
the distances away. Now each member has an effect on the other so you can
predict the number of planets etc.

The power of the theory was in its predictions of when the planets appear in the
sky etc. and where so accurate the victorians thought it defined all of physics,
until relativity changed everything again. The fact this is true, is because the
effect it had on everything and what we could or could not do was very profound.
 
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GuidanceGodsWay

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My post is in the quote.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.Matthew 24:24

ME: Right! He deceives the whole world (but the elect, why not? because they hung on to every word He said), This is why I find it not so nuts to NOT blindly believe what is fed to the world, especially a THEORY, yes Heliocentric Theory, Theory of Gravity, Etc.... that has not been proven.
I'll stick with the Bible as MY guide FIRST. Many deceptions can come from believing the Helio doctrine.
1 Thes 5 21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. <~~~This is what I'm doin.

In the movie, “The Usual Suspects,” a meek and crippled con man named Verbal Kint is held for questioning about a massacre on a ship docked in Los Angeles. He tells the interrogator, David Kujan an elaborate story of a seemingly mythical crime lord, Keyser Söze, making up events as he goes along. The more questions asked him, the more convoluted his ruse becomes. We see mild-mannered Kint cunningly eyeing information from a bulletin board behind the investigator and using the bits of info to enhance his frightening tale of the ruthless murderer, Söze. And as Kint maneuvres Kujan through his labyrinth of fantastic lies, you see the investigator growing more and more perplexed.


Kint moves like a snake. He slowly but surely hypnotizes the interrogator and gets him to go exactly where he wants him. He acts just like the devil by craftily spinning lies mixed in with truth until the investigator is exasperated.

Toward the end of the film, we the viewers are shocked to realize that we have been duped as much as Investigator Kujan. For although we witness how Kint weaves his deceptive tale throughout the entire story, we are unaware until the very end that Kint himself is the actual brutal crime lord, “Keyser Söze.”

And yet we’re still not even sure Keyser Söze is his real name! We are left completely baffled and wondering how much was true and how much was false. Kint is finally released as the investigator is convinced he’s just a harmless cripple. Kint easily slips from the police station, walks down the street and suddenly loses his limp. He’s not a cripple after all!

Kint gets into a car with his crime partner and utters the last line of the movie:

“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. And like that... he is gone.” And the screen goes black.

ME: Interesting how it is so much easier for an Atheist to come to Christ when chosen than it is a "Christian" that believes in vain. You know, the ones that the Lord professes to; "I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

The premise of this statement is that the devil is real and active in the world, corrupting people and causing them to turn away from God. He wants to take attention off himself and get people to focus on other things. He makes them skeptical about life, paranoid about one another, doubting the Sovereignty of God, doubting the supernatural and the devil's own existence. He gets people to believe their real enemy is each other.

ME: Absolutely, and this is part of Gods plan.... For contrast in the Earth, this age is not IT/ALL THERE IS, have you ever considered what the book of Revelations is? More happens with His creation AFTER physical death and BEFORE the Kingdom of God.

Or does everyone forget that GOD CREATED SATAN? For a specific purpose that IS found in His word.


This skepticism causes men and women to let down their guard and makes them more vulnerable to worldly temptations. Conspiracy theories keep people from trusting God. Rather than live a simple life of joy and liberty in Christ Jesus, skeptics focus on the worries and cares of this life.

The fact is, if you’re focused on figuring out what shape the earth is, the devil has you spellbound. The Lord tells us not to be anxious about anything and to trust he is in control. For the mind governed by the flesh (intellect) is death,
but the mind governed by the Spirit is life
and peace. The carnal (worldly) mind is not only an enemy to God, but enmity itself.

ME: It is a HOBBY of mine (kinda like you going onto forums that you really don't care about and finding dumb GIF's to post including ones that paint the wrong picture to those who are interested and uninformed).
There's a word for that.. __________


And if you’re not walking in the spirit, if your eyes are on this world, no matter if it's flat or round, you’re being duped by the devil.

ME: continuing above sentence............. And are part of Gods plan as the NON-ELECT who are eventually reconciled to God too, just not in this age. This is clear is we trust God when He says things like...

Colossians 1:15-20

15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.

17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the pre-eminence.

19 For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, 20 and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross.

THE ALL's MEAN ALL, not some! BUT ONE WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY BELIEVE AND TRUST GOD TO SEE IT


Did you take the time to write that summary? If not, I'd love to know who did (unless I missed the acknowledgment?)
If so,..... and you call me "obsessed"! OKAY
 
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GuidanceGodsWay

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Interesting proof of a circular world.

There is a sky at night tool which shows the stars at a point in the night.
As the earth rotates the stars move. Now certain stars are close to the point
of rotation so stay more still than those further away from this point.

You can see both the effect in a 24hr clock and the 6 month cycle.

Now if you cannot work this out, I suggest even the question itself is actually
beyond you. You could argue this is more an intelligence test than anything
to do with faith.
HAHA, It's a computer "PROGRAM". You know even the "Google Earth" program SAYS they use High altitude planes and radio towers and then super impose the info on a sphere, they could do that with any shape. Hey, but don't bother questioning "the experts".
 
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GuidanceGodsWay

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Must be expensive being a flat earther. When most airline companies are using the advantages a globe is offering, the flat earthers will have to go straight from A to B, and that might could be expensive if the flight was going from Barcelona to Miami:p

And what about the horizon?
You obviously haven't research flight patterns yet?
Globe top, Flat bottom



There's an example for ya. Look it up, if you care.
 
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GuidanceGodsWay

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You're right and I didn't start this thread to make fun of pick on anyone who believes in a flats earth. And I appreciate your replies.
Thank You Fenner,
I'm enjoying this thread, there will always be the few that just want to pick on and ridicule.
I just laugh at them silently, sometimes what they say IS actually funny.
I've learned long ago to take nothing personally and that ones fruits are clearly seen in time.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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Thank You Fenner,
I'm enjoying this thread, there will always be the few that just want to pick on and ridicule.
I just laugh at them silently, sometimes what they say IS actually funny.
I've learned long ago to take nothing personally and that ones fruits are clearly seen in time.
Don't laugh just in your head. Do it out loud and be proud of it. I point and giggle at FE believers and others that believe silly notions. I'm somewhat hopeful there will be someone someday that comes along to talk about the Hollow Earth nonsense and uses YouTube videos and fringe forum posts to make that point too. That will be another fun discussion about physical laws.
 
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My post is in the quote.



Did you take the time to write that summary? If not, I'd love to know who did (unless I missed the acknowledgment?)
If so,..... and you call me "obsessed"! OKAY
Just googled the line 'He acts just like the devil by craftily spinning lies mixed in with'...

Brought up "The Earth is Round-Page 11-Christian Chat".
 
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GuidanceGodsWay

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My post is in your quote.

I have never quite understood why people like a flat earth model.

If all the planets we see in the sky are round, surely that would lead people to conclude
the earth is also round.

ME: Assumption, and the Bible calls these Wandering Stars. And hey, if we're playing pool with balls then the table MUST be a ball as well! *wink*.

Take a simple issue. The angle of the sun as it rises and sets each day. Starting from
Kenya, the further north you go, the lower in the sky the sun gets each day.

ME: You've just expressed the sun in the "Dome"/"Firmament". Awesome!

Now if the earth was flat, unless the sun was actually very close to the earth this
would be impossible. As the sun is unbelievably hot and massive, this would not work
But I suppose you could construct a model that might fit. It would be interesting to
see its geometry.

ME: FE = sun about 3000 miles away, and about the same size as the moon (interesting how we can believe our eyes MORE than we're told by ("the establishment", as someone on here called it) with the flat Earth.
The sun and moon size also explains "the phenomenon" of the lunar eclipse happening while they BOTH are seen ABOVE the horizon (You'll be fed BS about refraction on that one, always an "excuse" at every turn when it's so simple, which is easily debunked).

Also the night sky changes throughout the year, because the dark side of the earth
faces in a different direction as the earth rotates around the sun during the year.

ME: FE easily explains this too, they BOTH could be right in theory.

Now if you geometry is poor, and your sense of spacial awareness and model building
in your head, this might explain why this all sounds like made up stuff, but it actually
is not, it works.

ME: The math "works" on BOTH models, but the simpler and more observable solutions are with FE, the globe has to assume so many variables that the FE doesn't. The globe has changed it's numbers repeatedly and made them (numbers) larger to "fit". The FE doesn't have to do this. Just like with the "Theory of Gravity" that is not measurable/provable and ridiculous when you think about it... that it's force is so STRONG that holds the waters to the Earth, tons of weight with buildings Etc,.... but so WEAK that a butterfly can lift off the ground. BUT density and buoyancy explain this perfectly which is measurable and repeatable and SOUND....... WITHOUT the help of "gravity".
 
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GuidanceGodsWay

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Don't laugh just in your head. Do it out loud and be proud of it. I point and giggle at FE believers and others that believe silly notions. I'm somewhat hopeful there will be someone someday that comes along to talk about the Hollow Earth nonsense and uses YouTube videos and fringe forum posts to make that point too. That will be another fun discussion about physical laws.
Your fruits have been clearly seen *wink*
 
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GuidanceGodsWay

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[video=youtube;GY0xhUOL3vM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY0xhUOL3vM[/video]

Quick 5 min overview without much detail and just the surface of the FE (the parts we CAN observe).