WHOSE TESTIMONY; THE FATHER'S OR THE SON'S ?

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heavenly_bound

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Hey, I'm not the one confused about whose testimony Jesus had. :)
Read the phrase again! i asked whose testimony is the church testifying and not whose testimony Jesus Had!
you see how easily you can misunderstand someone when your mind is filled with religion? you even go as far as breeding hatred openly!
 
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Your title suggests 2 different testimonies, as does "hyper grace" doctrine, which I showed already. :)
The Father says, i paraphrase, "he who does not believe in the son does not believe in me.; Here is my beloved son; listen to him;"
The Son says, i have revealed my Father to you. i have revealed that Him and i are one, so go ye into the world and testify of me! many in the world claim to know God without the testimony of the Son.

when you testify of the Son you are equally testifying of the Father bc you can't testify of the son without mentioning the Father .
Therefore the church's duty(assignment) is to testify of the Son whom the Father has sent; bc the testimony of the Son is based on that of the Father.
Brief, the Son revealed the Father to the church and sends the church to reveal Him(the Son) to the world!
you are so eager to condemn grace preachers so much that you cannot see the link between the two testimonies!
 

miknik5

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What does it mean

THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY?
 
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heavenly_bound

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What does it mean

THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY?
pls read the tread i just posted and you will understand what this means
 

miknik5

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and what does Isaiah 8 mean?
how many testimonies are there?
 
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Read the phrase again! i asked whose testimony is the church testifying and not whose testimony Jesus Had!
you see how easily you can misunderstand someone when your mind is filled with religion? you even go as far as breeding hatred openly!
I was responding to the error in the title of your thread---->>>>
WHOSE TESTIMONY; THE FATHER'S OR THE SON'S ?
If you don't see the error suggested in this title, then you do not truly know who the Son of God is. And the hatred usually comes from those whom I correct for teaching false doctrine. :)
 

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The Father says, i paraphrase, "he who does not believe in the son does not believe in me.; Here is my beloved son; listen to him;"
The Son says, i have revealed my Father to you. i have revealed that Him and i are one, so go ye into the world and testify of me! many in the world claim to know God without the testimony of the Son.

when you testify of the Son you are equally testifying of the Father bc you can't testify of the son without mentioning the Father .
Therefore the church's duty(assignment) is to testify of the Son whom the Father has sent; bc the testimony of the Son is based on that of the Father.
Brief, the Son revealed the Father to the church and sends the church to reveal Him(the Son) to the world!
you are so eager to condemn grace preachers so much that you cannot see the link between the two testimonies!
Are you changing your testimony now?
Do all believe that the FATHER sent THE SON into the world to be Savior and Lord?

if they dintare they baptized?
and if they aren't baptized through faith believing in the ONE whom the FATHER sent are they saved?
Are all washed by HIS blood. Are all hidden in HIM having been baptized into HIS death and risen and born of again of HIS life giving SPIRIT

Are all partakers of HIS BODY
And if not, why?
 
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I was responding to the error in the title of your thread---->>>>

If you don't see the error suggested in this title, then you do not truly know who the Son of God is. And the hatred usually comes from those whom I correct for teaching false doctrine. :)
There is no error in it and you are the one who does not know who the Son of God is; Thats why u are bent on under estimation His person and work; reducing Him to a Savior who is incapable of saving mankind without mankind's contribution in some form!!!
 
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Are you changing your testimony now?
Do all believe that the FATHER sent THE SON into the world to be Savior and Lord?

if they dintare they baptized?
and if they aren't baptized through faith believing in the ONE whom the FATHER sent are they saved?
Are all washed by HIS blood. Are all hidden in HIM having been baptized into HIS death and risen and born of again of HIS life giving SPIRIT

Are all partakers of HIS BODY
And if not, why?
i don't remember saying that; you thought that was what i said! look for the post and paste it and i will show you that that is not what i said.
 

miknik5

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i don't remember saying that; you thought that was what i said! look for the post and paste it and i will show you that that is not what i said.
Would you like to go back to whose work is greater: Adam or CHRIST and clarify for all that this GIFT is to those who believe?

i suggest you reread your posts. It was in this thread that you said not all are partakers
 

miknik5

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Would you like to now confirm that it is GODS GRACE through faith in HIS SON to those who believe?
 

miknik5

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O am it savvy enough to copy and paste all your misleading posts. But they are there.
 
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Has the church been assigned to testify of God the Father or God the Son?
I believe Jesus was here to tell us about God the Father. Still, I believe that Jesus was God in flesh and his teachings need to be learned.
 
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heavenly_bound

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I believe Jesus was here to tell us about God the Father. Still, I believe that Jesus was God in flesh and his teachings need to be learned.
you didn't understand the question pls.
 
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heavenly_bound

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O am it savvy enough to copy and paste all your misleading posts. But they are there.
its easy to criticize. its very easy to say to someone" your posts are misleading"; anyone can do that. Its only the matured that can point out someone's error by comparing scriptures. why can't you just post one of the "misleading posts" to proof your point? If you cannot do that, for just one post, then keep your opinion to yourself pls.
 
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Would you like to now confirm that it is GODS GRACE through faith in HIS SON to those who believe?[/QUOT)
i don't understand what you want me to confirm about the grace of God .but i think that you don't really know what the grace of God is in reality.
i advice that you carry out a study on what God's grace is really all about in the NT; Grace in the NT is a person- Christ; and not unmerited favor as some (including you probably) perceive it to be.
 
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Would you like to now confirm that it is GODS GRACE through faith in HIS SON to those who believe?
i don't understand what you want me to confirm about the grace of God .but i think that you don't really know what the grace of God is in reality.
i advice that you carry out a study on what God's grace is really all about in the NT; Grace in the NT is a person- Christ; and not unmerited favor as some (including you probably) perceive it to be.
 
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Would you like to go back to whose work is greater: Adam or CHRIST and clarify for all that this GIFT is to those who believe?

i suggest you reread your posts. It was in this thread that you said not all are partakers
i don't have that time to do that. you post it here. After all you are the one who claims i mislead. so its up to you to proof that point not me. ok?