Summer Zervos: Trump Grabbed My Breast at Hotel

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KimPetras

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I was watching Trump speak just now on FOX News. In his speech he was saying how he doesn't know any of the women accusing him. Then there was breaking news that an Apprentice contestant just came out and is accusing Trump of sexually assaulting her. Maybe he doesn't know all of the accusers, but I'm curious how he handles someone he undoubtedly does know, Summer Zervos.

The total number of women accusing Trump is 7. It reminds of the women coming out one-by-one against Bill Cosby.

Should Trump keep addressing these sexual assault chargers or focus on the issues at hand? Does bringing it up at every speech suggest his innocence or his guilt? What would you advise Trump to do to improve his odds to beat crooked Hillary?
 
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All I can say is what a brave patriot he is to stand up for the constitution and rule of law knowing that political machine would try to destroy him. And in this day and age, one persons sexual assault is another's looking at you the wrong way. This whole affair is george orwells 1984 in real time. And if this very collection of individuals known as cc is any indication...people lie and distort.
 
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Here's what I'd tell Trump: At this point, it's thermonuclear war. Both sides are going to wreck each other, so the goal is to be the one who comes out less charred.

Say with a shrug that these are lies by Hillary Clinton who understands that if America keys into her globalist, open border, law-breaking agenda, she's toast. Hillary Clinton lives on cover-ups and distracting accusations when those cover-ups don't work. This is how she does things.

It's a slight of hand- address by not addressing. Shift focus. Always shift focus.
 
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All I can say is what a brave patriot he is to stand up for the constitution and rule of law knowing that political machine would try to destroy him. And in this day and age, one persons sexual assault is another's looking at you the wrong way. This whole affair is george orwells 1984 in real time. And if this very collection of individuals known as cc is any indication...people lie and distort.
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You last asked me to post proof of Wikileaks email dump that showed Hillary wanted Trump elevated so he could win the Republican primary... I posted a link where all you had to do was click it and you'd see many sites talking about it. You refuse to acknowledge Wikileaks released those emails, even this this very moment...

I ask you now... where is your proof that these women are part of the "political machine" that are making false accusations of Trump?
 
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Here's what I'd tell Trump: At this point, it's thermonuclear war. Both sides are going to wreck each other, so the goal is to be the one who comes out less charred.

Say with a shrug that these are lies by Hillary Clinton who understands that if America keys into her globalist, open border, law-breaking agenda, she's toast. Hillary Clinton lives on cover-ups and distracting accusations when those cover-ups don't work. This is how she does things.

It's a slight of hand- address by not addressing. Shift focus. Always shift focus.
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This is what the people in his campaign are telling him. He's refusing to follow their advice. I may not like Trump, but the last thing I want to see is Hillary win.

Thank you for answering the questions in the OP. Much appreciated.
 
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KimPetras said:
You last asked me to post proof of my Wikileaks email dump that showed Hillary wanted Trump elevated so he could win the Republican primary... I posted a link where all you had to do was click it and you'd see many sites talking about it. You refuse to acknowledge Wikileaks released those emails, even this this very moment...

I ask you now... where is your proof that these women are part of the "political machine" that are making false accusations of Trump?
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not once did I mention you in my post. But while we're on the subject. Where's your proof that they're not Mr Kim?
 
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not once did I mention you in my post. But while we're on the subject. Where's your proof that they're not Mr Kim?
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Did I ever say they were factual accusations? Did I not write in the OP, "maybe he doesn't know all of the accusers"? Can you copy/paste any post in any thread where I said they did or didn't happen definitely? Accuse and alleged does not equate to "definitely" doing something.
 
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KimPetras said:
This is what the people in his campaign are telling him. He's refusing to follow their advice. I may not like Trump, but the last thing I want to see is Hillary win.

Thank you for answering the questions in the OP. Much appreciated.
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It's good advice because that kind of maneuver would suit his established persona quite well. That and unlike-ability for both
is so easy to manipulate.

I almost wish some of these gents Trump hired were my bosses back in 2012.

Well thanks, always happy to answer. :) But be careful! If you ask this question regarding your own political race, I will send an invoice.
 
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It's good advice because that kind of maneuver would suit his established persona quite well. That and unlike-ability for both
is so easy to manipulate.

I almost wish some of these gents Trump hired were my bosses back in 2012.

Well thanks, always happy to answer. :) But be careful! If you ask this question regarding your own political race, I will send an invoice.
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Agreed. If he addressed it and followed the advice of his campaign manager, thereby putting this behind him, he could remind the people of why they ought to vote for him over Hillary.

Addressing it and deflecting/moving on from it is important. Dwelling on it and defending himself every time he has a microphone will make people think: "Thou dost protest too much."
 
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Did I ever say they were factual accusations? Did I not write in the OP, "maybe he doesn't know all of the accusers"? Can you copy/paste any post in any thread where I said they did or didn't happen definitely? Accuse and alleged does not equate to "definitely" doing something.
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Sounds like you're arguing just to argue then. My guess based on past experience is that these will be proven false and politically driven like the ones before them.
 
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Sounds like you're arguing just to argue then. My guess based on past experience is that these will be proven false and politically driven like the ones before them.
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So not deciding if he's innocent or guilty before the facts come out means I want to argue just to argue since you are stating these women are part of the political machine (meaning they are false) without any shred of proof? Ummm... okay...

But going back to the OP, do you agree Trump should stop bringing it up at every speech?
 
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Sounds like you're arguing just to argue then. My guess based on past experience is that these will be proven false and politically driven like the ones before them.
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Well given how accusations of this kind are common in politics and the timing, I would bet on your side.

On Friday, the "pussy" video rears its ugly head. On Sunday, Trump parades Bill Clinton's infidelities at the debate. Then all of a sudden in the next two days after the debate we have waves of women coming after Trump?

It seems like a textbook political move to me more than a series of sincere assault allegations.
 
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Agreed. If he addressed it and followed the advice of his campaign manager, thereby putting this behind him, he could remind the people of why they ought to vote for him over Hillary.

Addressing it and deflecting/moving on from it is important. Dwelling on it and defending himself every time he has a microphone will make people think: "Thou dost protest too much."
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Yyyyyep. Hammer, meet nail.
 
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Well given how accusations of this kind are common in politics and the timing, I would bet on your side.

On Friday, the "pussy" video rears its ugly head. On Sunday, Trump parades Bill Clinton's infidelities at the debate. Then all of a sudden in the next two days after the debate we have waves of women coming after Trump?

It seems like a textbook political move to me more than a series of sincere assault allegations.
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I don't doubt this either, honestly. However, the fact is because Trump has been revealing his character to the American people, it makes the accusations entirely believable. If it was Bernie Sanders, Ben Carson, etc... I'm not so sure the court of public opinion would be as harsh with them as they are with Trump. Similar to the point you made earlier.
 
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I don't doubt this either, honestly. However, the fact is because Trump has been revealing his character to the American people, it makes the accusations entirely believable. If it was Bernie Sanders, Ben Carson, etc... I'm not so sure the court of public opinion would be as harsh with them as they are with Trump. Similar to the point you made earlier.
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The believability is more important than what he did or didn't do from an 11th-hour public relations standpoint. Absolutely.

And we needn't look far. Ted Cruz was accused of infidelity, but he's too much of a nerd for it to hold any water with a voter.
 
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KimPetras said:
I was watching Trump speak just now on FOX News. In his speech he was saying how he doesn't know any of the women accusing him. Then there was breaking news that an Apprentice contestant just came out and is accusing Trump of sexually assaulting her. Maybe he doesn't know all of the accusers, but I'm curious how he handles someone he undoubtedly does know, Summer Zervos.

The total number of women accusing Trump is 7. It reminds of the women coming out one-by-one against Bill Cosby.

Should Trump keep addressing these sexual assault chargers or focus on the issues at hand? Does bringing it up at every speech suggest his innocence or his guilt? What would you advise Trump to do to improve his odds to beat crooked Hillary?
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You think there's any chance the Lord will come back before we have to make this decision? Sorry to answer your question with a question.
 
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You think there's any chance the Lord will come back before we have to make this decision? Sorry to answer your question with a question.
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It would be a huge relief if He did. I'm not sure if He will though. :(

I just hope if I do end up voting for Trump He doesn't ask me why I voted for Trump when Trump told me who he and his heart is. I hope God accepts my reasoning that I wanted to do anything to stop Hillary.
 
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So not deciding if he's innocent or guilty before the facts come out means I want to argue just to argue since you are stating these women are part of the political machine (meaning they are false) without any shred of proof? Ummm... okay...

But going back to the OP, do you agree Trump should stop bringing it up at every speech?
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I think he needs to keep hammering Hillary for her crimes against America.
 
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I find it funny how he has been a highly visible celebrity billionaire for years and all these accusations just happen to pop up three weeks before the election...
 
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