But what if the Christian does not confess His sin?

[MessageOfTheCross]

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9

Falling to confess your sin to God means that the Lord at the same time, cannot forgive such a sin, which leaves the Believer in a precarious situation. Forgiveness by God, in the context of which the Holy Spirit here speaks, is not automatic.

John plainly says that such a person "walks in darkness" (1 John 2:11). Jesus said: "Therefore your sins remaineth" (John 9:41).

In fact, the very moment that we do something wrong, the Holy Spirit without fail, will convict us (John 16:8). At that moment we should confess our sin to the Lord, whatever it might be, and wherever we might be. This is a matter of the heart, so it does not need ceremony of any kind.

Pastor Jimmy Swaggart Bible Commentary

 

[BenFTW]

If forgiveness is dependent upon sin confession, what exactly did Jesus Christ accomplish at the cross? Also God's word says that without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin, therefore how does confessing ones sins grant forgiveness if there is no sacrifice? You may say that Jesus is that sacrifice, and you'd be right. VVhich is why our sin is already experiencing remission because Jesus died once, one sacrifice for all sin for all time. It doesn't make sense to say we must confess our sins in order to receive forgiveness when God's word plainly states we are forgiven already and that our sin has been paid through Christ's one time sacrifice for all sin.

Hebrews goes into depth about this, even saying that Jesus would've suffered since the foundation of the world in order to take care of sin (in other words, if his blood was like the blood of bulls and goats) because He is the sacrifice. However thank God that His blood is eternal, and we have a covenant with Him. He is our High Priest ever able to save us completely because He lives forever to intercede on our behalf. His blood took away our sin, it didn't just cover it up. VVe are forgiven, it is not something we seek. In reality, the whole Gospel is a message of reconciliation and through Jesus the barrier that is sin has been taken care of and we are reconciled. Forgiven. Restored.

[h=1]Ephesians 4:32 King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

PS: This isn't to say you cannot express yourself to the Lord in reference to sins and struggles vvith temptation. By all means be open, approach the throne of grace in time of need and rely upon His strength to give you victory. He can and does give the escape. [/FONT]

 

[hornetguy]

Hey, Ben! Where you been? (sometimes I crack myself up)

 

[BenFTW]

Hey, Ben! Where you been? (sometimes I crack myself up)

Haha, no where in particular. Been going to church and doing some hobbies. Every once in awhile I get the urge to come on here and see whats being shared. Seems to be some of the same stuff.

 

[Demi777]

Simple. What you dont cofess, cant be forgiven and youll go to hell as sin cannot enter the kingdom of God.

 

[BenFTW]

Simple. What you dont cofess, cant be forgiven and youll go to hell as sin cannot enter the kingdom of God.

I know you to be someone that is in tune with the Lord, and if I may encourage you to seek the Lord on what you've just said I think you will come to know and appreciate Christ's sacrifice all the more. If what you say is true then Christ's sacrifice was in vain. His sacrifice was to reconcile us to God, to blot out our sins and allow us the intimacy you now share with the Lord. Sin confession is not the means to forgiveness, faith in Christ is.

Sin confession is all good and well in so far as being open and naked before the Lord (as He sees all things) but to suggest that one's eternal destination is determined by one's willingness to confess sins before God is changing the simplicity of the Gospel that is faith in Christ. Our forgiveness is not sought but is already found in Jesus Christ. Our faith is in Christ and through Him are we justified and forgiven. Sin confession cannot and does not replace the blood of Christ that cleanses us from all sin/unrighteousness. VVithout the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin and that is why Jesus sacrificed Himself once and for all.

To suggest that sin confession grants forgiveness on an eternal level and that if one fails to confess their sins they shall not inherit the kingdom ignores the grace of God and the forgiveness already granted through Christ's sacrifice. His blood is sufficient.

 

[wattie]

Look.. God knows all our sin.. regardless of whether we confess it or not.. for one thing.

Next thing.. think about John 3:16 and John 5:24.. then compare it with the verse the OP has.

Scripture does not contradict.

Some verses are about being saved full stop.. eternally.. others are about daily salvation. Eternal salvation isn't dependent on daily works.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

As Christians we confess our sins that "The Holy Spirit" reveals to you, And He will be faithful to cleanse us from all other sins that you do not know about. This is imperative that keeps us in fellowship and in alignment with Our Father In Heaven. That activates the Cross to deal with the sin(s). The Power of God is the Cross of Christ. All sin has consequences. Though are sins are remitted, they create wounds in our soul that brings demons of sickness, disease, infirmities, sexual immorality, financial problems, marriage problems, pride, gossip, double mindedness, abortion, homosexuality, mental illness, and so much more. Remember there is a difference between salvation and sanctification.

5 This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us. 1 John 1:5-10 NKJV

God is telling us that He only operates in the light. You must confess your sins that He reveals to you (This Activates The Cross To Deal With Sin). (Bonus) And He will be faithful to cleanse us from all other sins that you do not know about (The Blood Of Jesus Cleanse Us, Heals Us, Deliver Us, And So Much More!). Failure to do so, you are in darkness and you are a liar. You have know fellowship with Him.

 

[trofimus]

Simple. What you dont cofess, cant be forgiven and youll go to hell as sin cannot enter the kingdom of God.

Its impossible. We are not robots and we dont even realize many times we did something wrong. And our memory is imperfect. If we would need to confess all our sins specifically, who could enter the Kingdom of God?

 

[trofimus]

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9

I think this means a continuous realization we depend on the forgiveness of God and that we sin every day. And calling for forgiveness regularly.

Example of practice: The first church prayed "Our Father" 3x a day. There is a clause "and forgive us our debts".

 

[breno785au]

We all need to chill, it's been done before the earth was even created...

Rev 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Imagine if we talked about our redemption more than sin...

 

[mailmandan]

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9

Falling to confess your sin to God means that the Lord at the same time, cannot forgive such a sin, which leaves the Believer in a precarious situation. Forgiveness by God, in the context of which the Holy Spirit here speaks, is not automatic.

Is John focusing on confessing every single sin that we commit as we commit them as an additional requirement to remain cleansed? Or does John have in mind here a settled recognition and ongoing acknowledgment that one is a sinner in need of cleansing and forgiveness?

Notice that verse 8 says, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." Verse 10 says, "If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us." IN CONTRAST TO - if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Are you trying to imply that everytime a believer commits a sin they are not cleansed from all unrighteousness until they confess that specific sin? Are believers lost all over again until they confess each specific sin? What happens if they forget one?

 

[mailmandan]

John plainly says that such a person "walks in darkness" (1 John 2:11).

Who walks in darkness? Children of God or children of the devil?

1 John 1:6 - If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin. Walking in darkness is descriptive of children of the devil. Walking in the light is descriptive of children of God. Only saved believers are in the light.

Acts 26:18 - to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.

2 Corinthians 6:14 - Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?

Ephesians 5:8 - for you were formerly darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord; walk as children of Light. Children of the devil walk in darkness, not in the light. Children of God walk in the light, not in darkness. IF confirms these positions in verses 6 and 7. It's one or the other.

In 1 John 2:9, we read - He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now. In vs. 10 - But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.

*Compare with 1 John 3:10 - In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, (compare with 1 John 1:6 - does not practice the truth) nor is he who does not love his brother.

*Notice that walks in darkness/hates his brother is connected with children of the devil.

Colossians 1:12 - giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the saints in Light.

1 Thessalonians 5:5 - for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness.

 

[passing_through]

*Notice that walks in darkness/hates his brother is connected with children of the devil.

Dan, you helped / showed me something in relation to this quote. Thanked!

 

[Willie-T]

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9

Falling to confess your sin to God means that the Lord at the same time, cannot forgive such a sin, which leaves the Believer in a precarious situation. Forgiveness by God, in the context of which the Holy Spirit here speaks, is not automatic.

John plainly says that such a person "walks in darkness" (1 John 2:11). Jesus said: "Therefore your sins remaineth" (John 9:41).

In fact, the very moment that we do something wrong, the Holy Spirit without fail, will convict us (John 16:8). At that moment we should confess our sin to the Lord, whatever it might be, and wherever we might be. This is a matter of the heart, so it does not need ceremony of any kind.

Pastor Jimmy Swaggart Bible Commentary

With this outlook, unless your memory is 100% perfect, and you have not forgotten even one transgression down through the years, "that the Lord at the same time, cannot forgive such a sin, which leaves the Believer in a precarious situation." (The "quoted" part, you posted, not me.)

 

[zone]

Luke 11
1Now Jesus was praying in a certain place, and when he finished, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples.” 2And he said to them, “When you pray, say:

“Father, hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come.
3Give us each day our daily bread,
4and forgive us our sins,
for we ourselves forgive everyone who is indebted to us.
And lead us not into temptation.”

 

[zone]

Matthew 6

7“And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. 9Pray then like this:

“Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.a
10Your kingdom come,
your will be done,b
on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us this day our daily bread,c
12and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.d

14For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, 15but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

 

[Demi777]

When we dont remember things ,dont we also ask God to forgive us what we dont recall? And also he starts pointing out to us things.

Its impossible. We are not robots and we dont even realize many times we did something wrong. And our memory is imperfect. If we would need to confess all our sins specifically, who could enter the Kingdom of God?

Well brother I see your stand. Let me maybe just clarify myself a bit and ask you a question.
Do you believe that when you accept Jesus as your savior, that immediately you get stripped off of your iniquities?
Gods sacrefice was not in vain. But Ive found that often the ones who reject to go to Christ with what theyve done, do it out of pride and self righteousness. I for myself can tell you that I could not step into freedom in him without confessing to him (and to heal I ended up telling to the persons who were there in the deliverance).
In the end, refusing to confess sins to God is like saying '' oh he knows it anyway and he knows I'm sorry so whatever'' in the end takes away from getting close to him and humbling yourself toward him (imo)
Not confessing sins to him and believing to be righteous is dust in the wind.
Jesus said even on the sermon on the mount ''come to me,...''
And many will be saying ''Lord Lord we did this and we did that in your name'' and he just says ''I never knew you''
What we confess, he forgets and what you dont confess, he cant forget.

Isaiah 43:25
I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.
and Hebrews 8:12
For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

I know you to be someone that is in tune with the Lord, and if I may encourage you to seek the Lord on what you've just said I think you will come to know and appreciate Christ's sacrifice all the more. If what you say is true then Christ's sacrifice was in vain. His sacrifice was to reconcile us to God, to blot out our sins and allow us the intimacy you now share with the Lord. Sin confession is not the means to forgiveness, faith in Christ is.

Sin confession is all good and well in so far as being open and naked before the Lord (as He sees all things) but to suggest that one's eternal destination is determined by one's willingness to confess sins before God is changing the simplicity of the Gospel that is faith in Christ. Our forgiveness is not sought but is already found in Jesus Christ. Our faith is in Christ and through Him are we justified and forgiven. Sin confession cannot and does not replace the blood of Christ that cleanses us from all sin/unrighteousness. VVithout the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin and that is why Jesus sacrificed Himself once and for all.

To suggest that sin confession grants forgiveness on an eternal level and that if one fails to confess their sins they shall not inherit the kingdom ignores the grace of God and the forgiveness already granted through Christ's sacrifice. His blood is sufficient.

 

[notmyown]

John plainly says that such a person "walks in darkness" (1 John 2:11). Jesus said: "Therefore your sins remaineth" (John 9:41).
Pastor Jimmy Swaggart Bible Commentary

though i agree with confession wholeheartedly, Dan raised an interesting point in that there will be sins of commission or omission we may not remember to confess. so what about those? perhaps this is why David prayed like this---

Who can discern his errors? Acquit me of hidden faults. (Ps 19:12)

just wanted to ask what the above verses, from the OP, have to do with the whole subject of Christian confession?
i must be a little slow this morning, because in the second Christ is speaking to those who rejected Him, and in the first John seems to be also speaking of those outside of Christ.... ???

can someone help me?

 

[Willie-T]

Simple. What you dont cofess, cant be forgiven and youll go to hell as sin cannot enter the kingdom of God.

Hopefully, we will begin to make some inroads into this dogmatic streak of yours. LOL