What does it take to get into heaven?

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PeterJens

PeterJens

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By the way G7 refuses to accept clear scripture and teaching by Ezekiel, Moses, Jesus,
Paul, Peter, John so there is little hope for him.

The confusion of this group is so bad, I am saved because I have faith in Jesus, but
loose it if I try and be obedient to Christs commands.

I am then told I never gained salvation because I did not believe in the right way.
But then they say they are saved many years ago but believed like me, until the
revelation of salvation without strings set them free.

But then I must be saved, except I am told I am not, nor is any of the evil legalists
that live in the church. The truth is they are deceived and are just causing trouble
while contradicting their own beliefs. No surprise there from the deceived.
 
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FreeNChrist

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PeterJens said:
When John the baptist preached, there was no Messiah to have unbelief in
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Really? Wonder who that dude was who the dove asended upon when John baptized Him? Hmmmmmm. LOL.
 
PeterJens

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FreeNChrist said:
Really? Wonder who that dude was who the dove asended upon when John baptized Him? Hmmmmmm. LOL.
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Not very bright are you. John the baptist came before the preaching of Jesus. He prepared
the way. It says most of Jerusalem went out to John the Baptist for baptism and when the
teachers of the law did, they were rebuked for not showing signs of repentance.

But then this simple understanding of scripture is beyond you. I have no respect for people
who want to rebuke yet know Gods word so badly.
 
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FreeNChrist

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PeterJens said:
Not very bright are you. John the baptist came before the preaching of Jesus. He prepared
the way. It says most of Jerusalem went out to John the Baptist for baptism and when the
teachers of the law did, they were rebuked for not showing signs of repentance.

But then this simple understanding of scripture is beyond you. I have no respect for people
who want to rebuke yet know Gods word so badly.
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Sad. You're just a drowning man furiously kicking against the One who alone can save him. :rolleyes:
 
PeterJens

PeterJens

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FreeNChrist said:
Sad. You're just a drowning man furiously kicking against the One who alone can save him. :rolleyes:
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Sorry this is just absurd. I say this because all you are presenting is the conviction
you cannot walk as Jesus did, but that is the thing you are called to in Christ.

It just confirms you have failed, but this is something you cannot accept.
There is nothing I can do, because I do not bring conviction of sin, all I can
do is point to His word and His principles.

It is the weirdest thing to walk with Jesus and then be told I am not walking
with Him. Your reason is because I do not agree with your theology, yet
you claim to love the Lord yet deny the basics. Very odd, very lost.
 
Grace777x70

Grace777x70

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Acts 16:29-31 (NASB)
[SUP]29 [/SUP] And he called for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear he fell down before Paul and Silas,

[SUP]30 [/SUP] and after he brought them out, he said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"

[SUP]31 [/SUP] They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."

Or you could still send me that $183 to get you out of purgatory ...:rolleyes: - both the catholic and protestant ones.
 
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Stranger36147

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Or a stairway. Uh oh, I think I feel a very familiar song coming on:

There's a lady that's sure all that glitters is gold...
 
stonesoffire

stonesoffire

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Being born from above. Just in case no one mentioned this.
 
PeterJens

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In the open heaven world, when the preacher says accept a new heart, just say yes.

We had a church open in the locality with multi-media church meeting, the way to get
people in to church. It lasted 2 years. If all church is is show bizz it is just bubbles
that fade.

We are a people of relationship, of good dealings with all, and integrity.
Deliver this with the gospel and you have a good church. People are not asking for
much just reality at work in the soul of a man and woman.
 
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FreeNChrist

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PeterJens said:
Sorry this is just absurd. I say this because all you are presenting is the conviction
you cannot walk as Jesus did, but that is the thing you are called to in Christ.

It just confirms you have failed, but this is something you cannot accept.
There is nothing I can do, because I do not bring conviction of sin, all I can
do is point to His word and His principles.

It is the weirdest thing to walk with Jesus and then be told I am not walking
with Him. Your reason is because I do not agree with your theology, yet
you claim to love the Lord yet deny the basics. Very odd, very lost.
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Funny, never said anything about "walking with Jesus", perhaps that is you being convicted of that sin you talked about. But, since you brought it up, those who actually do walk with Jesus, don't have to go around constantly proclaiming they are walking with Jesus. Just sayin'.
 
Willie-T

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If people do not repent, which is to turn from their sins and ask for forgiveness for their sins they will be judged including you.
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You have it so very wrong.

Repentance is realigning your thinking about what it actually IS that will save you from the consequences of your sins.... NOT figuring out a way to stop sinning. We will always sin. You, yourself, do it on a consistant basis right here on this forum. So do just about all of us.

And that "realignment" is trusting that Jesus was telling the truth that it is ONLY by belief in Him that we will gain Salvation....... NOT by making ourselves squeaky-clean.
 
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CharlieGrown

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Willie-T said:
You have it so very wrong.

Repentance is realigning your thinking about what it actually IS that will save you from the consequences of your sins.... NOT figuring out a way to stop sinning. We will always sin. You, yourself, do it on a consistant basis right here on this forum. So do just about all of us.

And that "realignment" is trusting that Jesus was telling the truth that it is ONLY by belief in Him that we will gain Salvation....... NOT by making ourselves squeaky-clean.
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CHURCH!!!!!
 
jenniferand2

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PeterJens said:
By the way G7 refuses to accept clear scripture and teaching by Ezekiel, Moses, Jesus,
Paul, Peter, John so there is little hope for him.

The confusion of this group is so bad, I am saved because I have faith in Jesus, but
loose it if I try and be obedient to Christs commands.

I am then told I never gained salvation because I did not believe in the right way.
But then they say they are saved many years ago but believed like me, until the
revelation of salvation without strings set them free.

But then I must be saved, except I am told I am not, nor is any of the evil legalists
that live in the church. The truth is they are deceived and are just causing trouble
while contradicting their own beliefs. No surprise there from the deceived.
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here is some scripture to help
Romans Chapter 10

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

this to me means do not deny the Lord has died for your sins and to confess any of your sins to God for forgivness

Ephesians Chapter 2

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. this in my opinion means not even all the nice things you do in the world will get you into heaven but faith will

then we shall look up what is called a sin “All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.”

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

now repentance “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”

“Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;”

Ezekiel Chapter 18

21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.

23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: [and] not that he should return from his ways, and live?

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”

actually it might be easier if you just look up King James Bible online and go to the bottom of the page and look under topics like sin repentance etc,, I love this online Bible because it gives a bunch of verses to read about each topic
 
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