"replacement theology" - what is it?
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it seems to be their pet argument, We love on Israel and let them do whatever they want,
Even though NOBODY does this..
I guess it is OK for Palestinians to slaughter jewish babies and women, But how dare Israel retaliate. They should not defend themselves.
If palestine was the US, we would be screaming to wipe palestinians off the map..
Even though NOBODY does this..
I guess it is OK for Palestinians to slaughter jewish babies and women, But how dare Israel retaliate. They should not defend themselves.
If palestine was the US, we would be screaming to wipe palestinians off the map..
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
25. For I would not … that ye should be ignorant of this mystery—The word "mystery," so often used by our apostle, does not mean (as with us) something incomprehensible, but "something before kept secret, either wholly or for the most part, and now only fully disclosed" (compare Ro 16:25; 1Co 2:7-10; Eph 1:9, 10; 3:3-6, 9, 10).
lest ye should be wise in your own conceits—as if ye alone were in all time coming to be the family of God.
that blindness—"hardness"
in part is happened to—"hath come upon"
Israel—that is, hath come partially, or upon a portion of Israel.
until the fulness of the Gentiles be—"have"
come in—that is, not the general conversion of the world to Christ, as many take it; for this would seem to contradict the latter part of this chapter, and throw the national recovery of Israel too far into the future: besides, in Ro 11:15, the apostle seems to speak of the receiving of Israel, not as following, but as contributing largely to bring about the general conversion of the world—but, "until the Gentiles have had their full time of the visible Church all to themselves while the Jews are out, which the Jews had till the Gentiles were brought in." (See Lu 21:24).
25. For I would not … that ye should be ignorant of this mystery—The word "mystery," so often used by our apostle, does not mean (as with us) something incomprehensible, but "something before kept secret, either wholly or for the most part, and now only fully disclosed" (compare Ro 16:25; 1Co 2:7-10; Eph 1:9, 10; 3:3-6, 9, 10).
lest ye should be wise in your own conceits—as if ye alone were in all time coming to be the family of God.
that blindness—"hardness"
in part is happened to—"hath come upon"
Israel—that is, hath come partially, or upon a portion of Israel.
until the fulness of the Gentiles be—"have"
come in—that is, not the general conversion of the world to Christ, as many take it; for this would seem to contradict the latter part of this chapter, and throw the national recovery of Israel too far into the future: besides, in Ro 11:15, the apostle seems to speak of the receiving of Israel, not as following, but as contributing largely to bring about the general conversion of the world—but, "until the Gentiles have had their full time of the visible Church all to themselves while the Jews are out, which the Jews had till the Gentiles were brought in." (See Lu 21:24).
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Quote"And we are there.. "hate Israel", "Hitler argument", "holocaust argument" etc etc."
I posted what the church fathers said. Do you agree or disagree with them? How about Zeek who was posting here and got banned. Agree with his sentiments? There is a history between replacement and anti-semitism, read history and its easily proven. As I said before Hitler wasn't the first to put the Jews in ghettos,or make them wear the star,it was the Catholics who taught the replacement theology. And they admitted this and recanted from this belief after the Holocaust as did the Protestant church. Then someone drags it out of the dirt pile and dresses it up again. Its unbelievable that with the history attached to it people still believe this nonsense.
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so, since "it would be to far into the future" Lets twist what the apostle paul said, because it could not say what some think he said.
It says when the hardening will be removed, When the time of the gentile is fulfilled.
actually it does not contradict the later part. It brings the latter part into focus.
and makes it real. Which was pauls argument, As a gentile believe, do not be to proud.. For they ar eonly blinded in part. until the time of gentile is complete. THEN all isreal will be saved.
Until then, They are hated according to the gospel. Beloved according to th epromise (election) why, Because Gods gifts and calling are irrevocable.
when will that occur?
it has not occurred yet.
I don't know what you mean the church? The remnant are flesh Jews that come to Christ, God hasn't thrown away his chosen people just because he cast away Israel. There are still chosen people in the Jewish bloodline that will be saved.
That's exactly what Paul was saying in Romans 11:1
Romans 11:1 KJV
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
That's exactly what Paul was saying in Romans 11:1
Romans 11:1 KJV
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
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lol.. well I did not have land given to me like God. They did. I may not Know. BUT THEY DO!
So it is just a little different?
Also. My land does not have a history (I do not even know what land it was)
If God gave my ancestors land, and promised, if my people obeyed him, and heeded his word, he would be my God and keep my family in peace.
You bet I would want to be there..