"replacement theology" - what is it?

[zone]

Israel-centered theology:

Take the New Testament as some kind of temporary insertion into a big plan with Israel.

Everything is about Jews and Israel, Church is only insertion between two Israel kingdoms.

Still interpret OT prophecies as literal. Even though Christ and apostles always said it was about Christ or Church. Ignore it and read news about Israel or Jerusalem today. Search for some kind of third temple.

 

[trofimus]

well

you call yourself by the name of someone who accompanied Paul on his 3rd journey

I don't think you were really there

do you think you were really there?

so confusing........

Not sure what you are trying to say by this

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Romans 11 is talking about a future event.


25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in,26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”[g]


28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs,29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.

30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience,31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you.32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

was it not him who just a few posts ago said we do not like to take the word of God for what it says?

Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in

Hardened in part until.

What happens after the "until" occurs, and what is the until?

Oh yeah, All Isreal is saved (the partial hardening must be removed)

 

[zone]

Israel-centered theology:

Take the New Testament as some kind of temporary insertion into a big plan with Israel.

Everything is about Jews and Israel, Church is only insertion between two Israel kingdoms.

Still interpret OT prophecies as literal. Even though Christ and apostles always said it was about Christ or Church. Ignore it and read news about Israel or Jerusalem today. Search for some kind of third temple.

the dispie heretiks club.

 

[LaurenTM]

Not sure what you are trying to say by this

really?

do you deny not being with Paul?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Israel-centered theology:

Take the New Testament as some kind of temporary insertion into a big plan with Israel.

Everything is about Jews and Israel, Church is only insertion between two Israel kingdoms.

Still interpret OT prophecies as literal. Even though Christ and apostles always said it was about Christ or Church. Ignore it and read news about Israel or Jerusalem today. Search for some kind of third temple.

Actually the church has been inclusive of jew and gentile since the beginning. It has NEVER been just Isreal, and it is not just gentile today..



You have it all wrong..

 

[zone]

Actually the church has been inclusive of jew and gentile since the beginning. It has NEVER been just Isreal, and it is not just gentile today..



You have it all wrong..

no, you have it wrong.
I love you, but you're wrong

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Got news for you, God is Israel centered and He has a plan for her in the last days the same as He has for the church. Do you not think the God of the universe can do two things at once?

actually the church will be the same in those days, Only the people will be separated into their own nations. And jesus himself rule rule with a rod of Iron.

But yes, he has a special place in his heart for Israel.

 

[trofimus]

really?

do you deny not being with Paul?

Should I rather pick Timotheus or Titus? I like Trofimus

 

[zone]

Got news for you, God is Israel centered and He has a plan for her in the last days the same as He has for the church. Do you not think the God of the universe can do two things at once?

oh yes....the Plan B theory.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You need to figure out what all Israel means. It DOES NOT mean flesh descendants of Israel.

In romans 11, it most certainly does. This has been proven so many times, it is amazing people still argue this.

Israel is not the church. Thew church is "NOT Blinded in part" and it is "NOT The enemy concerning the gospel"

again, Where you not just saying we do not take God for what he says?

 

[LaurenTM]

Should I rather pick Timotheus or Titus? I like Trofimus

ask Paul...what does he think?

what does it matter?

Paul is already dead

 

[LaurenTM]

 

[trofimus]

You have it all wrong..

Easy to say, hard to prove.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

And everytime UN or US says something against the Israel and his agresivity, run to your anti-atomic shelter, because God is going to crush your country immeditelly.

Because He is Israel centered and everybody must worship Israel regardless of what Israel does.

do what? where does this crap come from?

so because SOME PEOPLE actually think Israel is our friend, We should hate Israel?

thats right where satan wants us to be, Thats what Got Hitler started..

or let me guess, you do not think the holocost happened either?

Thats like sayaing because some people will take grace and turn it into licentiousness, we need to add works.. Oh wait, been tried, by the Jews themselves. they wrote a whole book on it.. And the pharisees used it..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

no, you have it wrong.
I love you, but you're wrong

I love you too, But your wrong

King davids grandma was a gentile. Ninevah repented at jonahs teaching, There are all kinds of Gentiles who will be in heaven, It was never just jewish. In fact, Abraham never got his land, because Gentiles had not yet completed there sin, they had to wait 400 years.

If the church was strickly jewish in the OT, then people before abraham must have missed out..

 

[trofimus]

do what? where does this crap come from?

so because SOME PEOPLE actually think Israel is our friend, We should hate Israel?

thats right where satan wants us to be, Thats what Got Hitler started..

or let me guess, you do not think the holocost happened either?

Thats like sayaing because some people will take grace and turn it into licentiousness, we need to add works.. Oh wait, been tried, by the Jews themselves. they wrote a whole book on it.. And the pharisees used it..

And we are there.. "hate Israel", "Hitler argument", "holocaust argument" etc etc.

Can you "hear" yourself? Be rational and slow down in your hysterical reactions, so typical for pro-Israel centered Christians.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Easy to say, hard to prove.

Ok, go ahead and prove your accusations..show that all premillenial people do as you think..

Just because SOME do. does not make it a set in stone doctrine of everyone.

 

[kaylagrl]

And everytime UN or US says something against the Israel and his agresivity, run to your anti-atomic shelter, because God is going to crush your country immeditelly.

Because He is Israel centered and everybody must worship Israel regardless of what Israel does.

Ya, I never said Israel does everything right. But if you're talking about Palestinians and who has a right to the land,its Israel.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

And we are there.. "hate Israel", "Hitler argument", "holocaust argument" etc etc.

Can you "hear" yourself? Be rational and slow down in your hysterical reactions, so typical for pro-Israel centered Christians.

what did you expect me to say with your comment?

You gave one extreme, I gave the other. Am I not aloud?

is not turn around fair play?