"replacement theology" - what is it?

zone · Dec 8, 2016

I cant think of a more hateful ideology than the xtian Zionists have.
get all the jews into Palestine then wait for The Antichrist to hurt and kill them all - when NONE of that is written.
and the sister heresy that God plans to destroy all the gentiles that surround the antichrist nation daily committing atrocities in....eh...what NONSENSE

kaylagrl · Dec 8, 2016

eternally-gratefull said:

Makes
your head hurt. Deny the history no matter how anti-semetic it is,then calls me anti-semetic. lol Makes your head spin.

KJV1611 · Dec 8, 2016

kaylagrl said:

Do you know the history of Zionism? Do you know who was behind putting those Jews back in the land?

trofimus · Dec 8, 2016

KJV1611 said:

I wonder if she even knows that the state of Israel was created by the laughable UN.

zone · Dec 8, 2016

eternally-gratefull said:

all your after-they-repent passages were about the days Christ walked the earth, and when the gospel had gone first to them, then to the ends of the earth

Romans 10
1Brothers,a my heart’s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. 2For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.b

The Message of Salvation to All

5For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them. 6But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) 7“or ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); 9because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

14How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard?c And how are they to hear without someone preaching? 15And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!” 16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?” 17So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.

18But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have, for

“Their voice has gone out to all the earth,
and their words to the ends of the world.”

19But I ask, did Israel not understand? First Moses says,

“I will make you jealous of those who are not a nation;
with a foolish nation I will make you angry.”

20Then Isaiah is so bold as to say,

“I have been found by those who did not seek me;
I have shown myself to those who did not ask for me.”

21But of Israel he says, “All day long I have held out my hands to a disobedient and contrary people.”

kaylagrl · Dec 8, 2016

trofimus said:

Facts and history go hand in hand. Its nonsensical to say judge facts without looking at history. What are you talking about?! And yes,I know the US history,some of which we have striven to make better down through the years and change our wrongs.

wanderer6059 · Dec 8, 2016

God loves everyone... even Israel, especially being his first love.

trofimus · Dec 8, 2016

kaylagrl said:

US is the country killing highest number of people every year. Wars, revolutions, mess in middle eastern countries, even inner country shootings. But this is not the topic.

I am talkiing about your making UN laughable because it made many mistakes. US made more, so what.

KJV1611 · Dec 8, 2016

trofimus said:

And the Jews control the US!

kaylagrl · Dec 8, 2016

trofimus said:

“When it is asked what is meant by the development of the Jewish National Home in Palestine, it may be answered that it is not the imposition of a Jewish nationality upon the inhabitants of Palestine as a whole, but the further development of the existing Jewish community, with the assistance of Jews in other parts of the world, in order that it may become a centre in which the Jewish people as a whole may take, on grounds of religion and race, an interest and a pride. But in order that this community should have the best prospect of free development and provide a full opportunity for the Jewish people to display its capacities, it is essential that it should know that it is in Palestine as of right and not on sufferance.”

Winston Churchill

The “Mandate for Palestine,” an historical League of Nations document, laid down the Jewish legal right to settle anywhere in western Palestine, between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, an entitlement unaltered in international law. The “Mandate for Palestine” was not a naive vision briefly embraced by the international community. Fifty-one member countries – the entire League of Nations – unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:“Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.”

Any attempt to negate the Jewish people’s right to Palestine - Eretz-Israel, and to deny them access and control in the area designated for the Jewish people by the League of Nations is a serious infringement of international law.

The Balfour Declaration:

Dear Lord Rothschild, I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty’s Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

“His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.Signed,
Arthur James Balfour
[Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs]

The “Mandate for Palestine,” an historical League of Nations document, laid down the Jewish legal right to settle anywhere in western Palestine, a 10,000-square-miles[SUP]3[/SUP] area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.The legally binding document was conferred on April 24, 1920 at the San Remo Conference, and its terms outlined in the Treaty of Sèvres on August 10, 1920. The Mandate’s terms were finalized and unanimously approved on July 24, 1922, by the Council of the League of Nations, which was comprised at that time of 51 countries,[SUP]4[/SUP] and became operational on September 29, 1923.[SUP]5[/SUP]The “Mandate for Palestine” was not a naive vision briefly embraced by the international community in blissful unawareness of Arab opposition to the very notion of Jewish historical rights in Palestine. The Mandate weathered the test of time: On April 18, 1946, when the League of Nations was dissolved and its assets and duties transferred to the United Nations, the international community, in essence, reaffirmed the validity of this international accord and reconfirmed that the terms for a Jewish National Home were the will of the international community, a “sacred trust” – despite the fact that by then it was patently clear that the Arabs opposed a Jewish National Home, no matter what the form.

Many seem to confuse the “Mandate for Palestine” [The Trust], with the British Mandate [The Trustee]. The “Mandate for Palestine” is a League of Nations document that laid down the Jewish legal rights in Palestine. The British Mandate, on the other hand, was entrusted by the League of Nations with the responsibility to administrate the area delineated by the “Mandate for Palestine.”

Great Britain [i.e., the Mandatory or Trustee] did turn over its responsibility to the United Nations as of May 14, 1948. However, the legal force of the League of Nations’ “Mandate for Palestine” [i.e., The Trust] was not terminated with the end of the British Mandate. Rather, the Trust was transferred over to the United Nations.

Fifty-one member countries – the entire League of Nations – unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:“Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.”

Arabs, the UN and its organs, and lately the International Court of Justice (ICJ) as well, have repeatedly claimed that the Palestinians are a native people – so much so that almost everyone takes it for granted. The problem is that a stateless Palestinian people is a fabrication. The word Palestine is not even Arabic.

In a report by His Majesty’s Government in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to the Council of the League of Nations on the administration of Palestine and Trans-Jordan for the year 1938, the British made it clear: Palestine is not a State, it is the name of a geographical area.Palestine is a name coined by the Romans around 135 CE from the name of a seagoing Aegean people who settled on the coast of Canaan in antiquity – the Philistines. The name was chosen to replace Judea, as a sign that Jewish sovereignty had been eradicated following the Jewish Revolts against Rome.In the course of time, the Latin name Philistia was further {cannot post word} into Palistina or Palestine.

During the next 2,000 years Palestine was never an independent state belonging to any people, nor did a Palestinian people distinct from other Arabs appear during 1,300 years of Muslim hegemony in Palestine under Arab and Ottoman rule. During that rule, local Arabs were actually considered part of, and subject to, the authority of Greater Syria The artificiality of a Palestinian identity is reflected in the attitudes and actions of neighboring Arab nations who never established a Palestinian state themselves.The rhetoric by Arab leaders on behalf of the Palestinians rings hollow. Arabs in neighboring states, who control 99.9 percent of the Middle East land, have never recognized a Palestinian entity. They have always considered Palestine and its inhabitants part of the great “Arab nation,”

The Arabs never established a Palestinian state when the UN in 1947 recommended to partition Palestine, and to establish “an Arab and a Jewish state” (not a Palestinian state, it should be noted). Nor did the Arabs recognize or establish a Palestinian state during the two decades prior to the Six-Day War when the West Bank was under Jordanian control and the Gaza Strip was under Egyptian control; nor did the Palestinian Arabs clamor for autonomy or independence during those years under Jordanian and Egyptian rule.

Only twice in Jerusalem’s history has the city served as a national capital. First as the capital of the two Jewish Commonwealths during the First and Second Temple periods, as described in the Bible, reinforced by archaeological evidence and numerous ancient documents. And again in modern times as the capital of the State of Israel. It has never served as an Arab capital for the simple reason that there has never been a Palestinian Arab state.

Well before the 1967 decision to create a new Arab people called “Palestinians,” when the word “Palestinian” was associated with Jewish endeavors, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, a local Arab leader, testified in 1937 before the Peel Commission, a British investigative body:“There is no such country [as Palestine]! Palestine is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries, part of Syria.

In a 1946 appearance before the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, also acting as an investigative body, the Arab-American historian Philip Hitti stated:“There is no such thing as Palestine in [Arab] history, absolutely not.” According to investigative journalist Joan Peters, who spent seven years researching the origins of the Arab-Jewish conflict over Palestine (From Time Immemorial, 2001), the one identity that was never considered by local inhabitants prior to the 1967 war was “Arab Palestinian.

kaylagrl · Dec 8, 2016

continuing ....

The “Mandate for Palestine” document did not set final borders. It left this for the Mandatory to stipulate in a binding appendix to the final document in the form of a memorandum. However, Article 6 of the “Mandate” clearly states:“The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co-operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes.”

Article 25 of the “Mandate for Palestine” entitled the Mandatory to change the terms of the Mandate in the territory east of the Jordan River:“In the territories lying between the Jordan and the eastern boundary of Palestine as ultimately determined, the Mandatory shall be entitled, with the consent of the Council of the League of Nations, to postpone or withhold application of such provision of this Mandate as he may consider inapplicable to the existing local conditions ...”Great Britain activated this option in the above-mentioned memorandum of September 16, 1922, which the Mandatory sent to the League of Nations and which the League subsequently approved – making it a legally binding integral part of the “Mandate.”Thus the “Mandate for Palestine” brought to fruition a fourth Arab state east of the Jordan River, realized in 1946 when the Hashemite Kingdom of Trans-Jordan was granted independence from Great Britain.All the clauses concerning a Jewish National Home would not apply to this territory [Trans-Jordan] of the original Mandate, as is clearly stated:“The following provisions of the Mandate for Palestine are not applicable to the territory known as Trans-Jordan, which comprises all territory lying to the east of a line drawn from ... up the centre of the Wady Araba, Dead Sea and River Jordan. ... His Majesty’s Government accept full responsibility as Mandatory for Trans-Jordan.”The creation of an Arab state in eastern Palestine (today Jordan) on 77 percent of the landmass of the original Mandate intended for a Jewish National Home in no way changed the status of Jews west of the Jordan River, nor did it inhibit their right to settle anywhere in western Palestine, the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.These documents are the last legally binding documents regarding the status of what is commonly called “the West Bank and Gaza.”The September 16, 1922 memorandum is also the last modification of the official terms of the Mandate on record by the League of Nations or by its legal successor – the United Nations – in accordance with Article 27 of the Mandate that states unequivocally:“The consent of the Council of the League of Nations is required for any modification of the terms of this mandate.”[SUP]24[/SUP]United Nations Charter recognizes the UN’s obligation to uphold the commitments of its predecessor – the League of Nations.

In the first Report of the High Commissioner on the Administration of Palestine (1920-1925) presented to the British Secretary of State for the Colonies, published in April 1925, the most senior official of the Mandate, the High Commissioner for Palestine, underscored how international guarantees for the existence of a Jewish National Home in Palestine were achieved:“The [Balfour] Declaration was endorsed at the time by several of the Allied Governments; it was reaffirmed by the Conference of the Principal Allied Powers at San Remo in 1920; it was subsequently endorsed by unanimous resolutions of both Houses of the Congress of the United States; it was embodied in the Mandate for Palestine approved by the League of Nations in 1922; it was declared, in a formal statement of policy issued by the Colonial Secretary in the same year, ‘not to be susceptible of change.’ ” [SUP]29[/SUP]Far from the whim of this or that politician or party, eleven successive British governments, Labor and Conservative, from David Lloyd George (1916-1922) through Clement Attlee (1945-1952) viewed themselves as duty-bound to fulfill the “Mandate for Palestine” placed in the hands of Great Britain by the League of Nations.

The United States....

United States President Woodrow Wilson (the twenty-eighth President, 1913-1921) was the founder of the League of Nations for which he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1919.Wilson 's efforts to join the Unites States as a member of the League of Nations were unsuccessful due to oppositions in the U.S. Senate. Despite not being a member of the League, the U.S. Govern*ment claimed on November 20, 1920 that the participation of the United States in WWI entitled it to be consulted as to the terms of the Mandate. The British Government agreed, and the outcome was an agreement calling to safeguard the American interests in Palestine. It concluded with a convention between the United Kingdom and the United States of America, signed on December 3, 1924. It is imperative to note that the convention incorporated the complete text of the “Mandate for Palestine,” including the preamble![SUP]30[/SUP]President Wilson was the first American president to support modern Zionism and Britain’s efforts for the creation of a National Home for Jews in Palestine (the text of the Balfour Declaration had been submitted to President Wilson and had been approved by him before its publication).President Wilson expressed his deep belief in the eventuality of the creation of a Jewish State:“I am persuaded,” said President Wilson on March 3rd, 1919, “that the Allied nations, with the fullest concurrence of our own Government and people, are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundation of a Jewish Commonwealth.”[SUP]31[/SUP]On June 30, 1922, a joint resolution of both Houses of Congress of the United States unanimously endorsed the “Mandate for Palestine,” confirming the irrevocable right of Jews to settle in the area of Palestine – anywhere between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea:“Favoring the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.“Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled. That the United States of America favors the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which should prejudice the civil and religious rights of Christian and all other non-*Jewish communities in Palestine, and that the holy places and religious buildings and sites in Palestine shall be adequately protected.”[SUP]32[/SUP] [italics in the original]On September 21, 1922, President Warren G. Harding (the twenty-ninth President, 1921-1923) signed the joint resolution of approval to establish a Jewish National Home in Palestine.

The Mandate survived the demise of the League of Nations. Article 80 of the UN Charter implicitly recognizes the “Mandate for Palestine” of the League of Nations.

This Mandate granted Jews the irrevocable right to settle anywhere in Palestine, the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, a right unaltered in international law and valid to this day. Jewish settlements in Judea and Samaria (i.e. the West Bank), Gaza and the whole of Jerusalem are legal.The International Court of Justice reaffirmed the meaning and validity of Article 80 in three separate cases... neither the ICJ nor the UN General Assembly can arbitrarily change the status of Jewish settlement as set forth in the “Mandate for Palestine,” an international accord that has never been amended.

All of western Palestine, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, including the West Bank and Gaza, remains open to Jewish settlement under international law.

http://www.mythsandfacts.org/conflict/mandate_for_palestine/mandate_for_palestine.htm#14a

Long post and its a small history lesson on how Israel came to be created. It was not the UN! Slow down and take the time to read it. Doubtful you will but it wont change facts or history.

NarrowRoadDisciple · Dec 8, 2016

KJV1611 said:

How does this add anything to the discussion? Do you have any facts?

kaylagrl · Dec 8, 2016

NarrowRoadDisciple said:

Facts
and history don't matter,or didn't you know?

LaurenTM · Dec 8, 2016

KJV1611 said:

now we are getting closer to your real thoughts here

but wait a minute...didn't you say somewhere there were no real Jews left anyway?

a very telling post...just dripping with love for the people who don't exist in YOUR world

don't bother defending it...it's indefensible

LaurenTM · Dec 8, 2016

glad you posted this...it wasn't the UN

KJV1611 just goes through the forum swinging his misinformation club and posting things that are absolutely WRONG!

yet he thinks they are true

and he will be insulted if you tell him that alone is fulfilled prophecy and the other one will insert a mocking laugh or something

you have a couple of preterists defending preterism

that's about it

KJV1611 · Dec 8, 2016

To all you Zionist: When did the Jews in Israel right now repent and seek God's face?

LaurenTM · Dec 8, 2016

KJV1611 said:

really?

what did YOU do for Christ to die for you?

how come He forgave YOUR sins?

was it because you were so good or was it because He said He would send His Son?

you have such a twisted view of scripture, that unless YOU turn from it, you will slip further and further away from what it really says

you seem to hate Jews..do you hate Jews?

do you really hate what and who God loves?

listen, He is giving you a break here...but that, like everything else, will also come to term

while you are saying there is no more prophecy to be fulfilled, he will fullfil before your eyes and you will be confused because it is not what YOU believe

thankfully, we believe in the gospel...not preterism

you are not defending scripture...you are defending preterism

that, is all that needs to be said concerning your beliefs...once a person understands what preterism is, there is not need to defend anything

it is preterism that is being preached here by you and the other one...that's all it is

no one has to prove anything to you...you are simply defending your own beliefs...unbiblical and not supported by anything but altered timelines, cherry picked verses and some real artful twisting of scripture and when that has fermented, you add the cherry on top and state that most of scripture is allegorical

you are just a dust cloud trying to settle down on someone to snuff out the light

LaurenTM · Dec 8, 2016

are you going to tell Kayla you were wrong about the UN?

your answers and questions mean nothing to me, so you just carry on

KJV1611 · Dec 8, 2016

NarrowRoadDisciple said:

Facts? It's right in our faces. Name a major bank that's not owned by the Jews. Name a major television news orginazation that's not owned by the Jews. Name a major recording label that's not owned by the Jews.

US government Jews are found here - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_politicians https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_politicians

Jews in Barak Hussein's cabinet found here - The Library | Jewish Virtual Library

List of major American Jewish corporations found here - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_businesspeople

LaurenTM · Dec 8, 2016

not going to apologize to Kayla

and apparently, really dislikes Jews

do you dislike Jews?

or just rich people in general?

or just rich Jews?

"replacement theology" - what is it?

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