"replacement theology" - what is it?

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This is simple, but it is also why those who try to replace Israel with the Church make their biggest mistake.

They are not ALL ISRAEL which are OF ISRAEL only means that to be a descendant of Abraham, you must live BY FAITH. Not all Jewish people will be of Abraham so to speak, but that has NOTHING TO DO with Israel proper as a nation. That is speaking of who is of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, and only those that live by Faith are of Israel. But you still have Gentiles and Jews. Paul said that Israel, WHEN THEY BELIEVED AGAIN, would be grafted back in !!

Galatians 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Romans 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

Grafted back into the Family of God, but they are still ISRAEL PROPER, and are not Gentiles. Paul was only saying that to be of Abraham/Jacob/Israel, you had to be living by FAITH, thus Israel as a nation was not of Abraham, because there are not living by Faith, but chose the Law over the Promised Seed which was Jesus Christ. They are still Israel, and God deals with them separately from the Church, which is of Abraham because THEY/WE Believe. Israel is not of Faithful Abraham even though they are his seed by the Flesh, they are not his seed in the FAITH. They will be grafted back in (All Israel will be Saved) when Israel as a Nation accepts Jesus Christ as their Messiah, but this will not happen until the Church has been Raptured, or times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. Then Jacobs trouble will come forth, and Israel will repent.
Thanks rondonmon but what I'm lookig for is who (a label) is Israel 1 and Israel 2.
 
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Nah, when you dig into it, the Jews had turned the law into an idol.

That idolatry then extends to self-worship, as the Jews have a cult not only of their own religion but also their own quasi-ethnic identity.




No you have this wrong, man has worshiped the creation[sun-stars-universe],
and has not followed Gods statues and judgements, laws and ways.

In the ancient world, ‘sun worship’ was one of the most common forms
of pagan idolatry. Immediately after Israel left Egypt, God warned His people
against being “driven to worship ... the sun.” Deuteronomy 4:19.

Yet Israel later yielded to temptation, compromised with the nations around
them, and dedicated their “horses ... to the sun.” 2 Kings 23:11.

During a time of revival, King Josiah purged much of Israel and
“burned the chariots of the sun with fire.” 2 Kings 23:11.

Before the Babylonian captivity, many Israelite leaders rejected their Creator,
yielded again to idolatry, and “worshipped the sun toward the east.” Ezekiel 8:16.

At the same time, God declared that they “hid their eyes from My Sabbaths.”
Ezekiel 22:26.

Thus ancient Israel shifted from Sabbath keeping to sun worship.
In 1 Corinthians 10:1-11, Paul warned the Church against repeating
the sins of ancient Israel.


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Who Changed The Sabbath to Sunday?
The Sabbath To Sunday Change - Who Changed The Sabbath

Sun worship, “the day of the sun,” and “Sunday”

The Romans called the sun god “Mithra” and “Apollo,” and they especially worshiped
the sun on “the first day of the week,” also called “Dies Solis” (Latin), which means,
“day of the sun.” The name “Sunday” was adopted “because this day was anciently
dedicated to the sun, or to its worship. The first day of the week.”
Webster’s Dictionary; 1929 edition.

Sun worship was marked by the use of the halo, or nimbus, which originated with the
pagan Greeks and Romans to represent their sun god, Helios. It was later on that
artists then adopted it for use in Christian images.

The halo is actually the sun behind the person’s head

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The Catholic Encyclopedia reported:

“Sunday is our mark or authority...the church is above the Bible,
and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.”
Catholic Record of London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.


A predicted “falling away” within the Church the bible records.



The fact of the matter is that there is not one scripture that says,
“The Sabbath is now Sunday.
 

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Nah, when you dig into it, the Jews had turned the law into an idol.

That idolatry then extends to self-worship, as the Jews have a cult not only
of their own religion but also their own quasi-ethnic identity.
I see you do not have [any bible verses] to backup this claimup.
the bible says Israel was deforced because sabbath breaking even.
where is your proff that this is so? I posted bible verses where is yours?
they broke Gods sabbaths and laws, and returned back to there fathers tradations

again The fact of the matter is that there is not one scripture that says,
“The Sabbath is now Sunday.

if you think you found one,there was a guy on the web will give you 10,000 dollars
 
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Thank you to whoever gave me the rep. I appreciate it.
 

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I do believe from my heart to hate or reject the Jews/Israel is a big mistake (unscriptural)
----I'll try to post some Scriptures to back up my position...Grace and Peace
heres one or two:)

Hosea 3:5 (KJV)
Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God,
and David their king; and shall fear the Lord and his goodness in the latter days.

Deuteronomy 4:30 (KJV)
When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in
the latter days, if thou turn to the Lord thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;

Jeremiah 23:20 (KJV)
The anger of the Lord shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have
performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly.


Joel 2:29

And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out myspirit.


Joel 2:28

And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh;
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams,
your young men shall see visions:


Ezekiel 39:29

Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit
upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord God.
 
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First time in a long while I saw a girl happy about a rep......your welcome well deserved.
:) when I joined I didnt know the edicate. I wasn't sure who reped me and if I should acknowledge it or not. The comments were so nice and I figured people were going to think me rude for not saying something. So know I always try to say thanks.lol
 
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:) when I joined I didnt know the edicate. I wasn't sure who reped me and if I should acknowledge it or not. The comments were so nice and I figured people were going to think me rude for not saying something. So know I always try to say thanks.lol

ROFL Potters Clay did you rep me to correct my spelling? I was on my way out the door when I posted that. In a big hurry,{have been all Christmas.} I looked at the word the way I spelled it and spell correct said I was wrong so I just went with whatever spelling it offered. But my spelling was a lot closer to the right spelling "etiquette" Spell check lied to me!! I feel betrayed :( Next time Im sticking with my own spelling!!

Oh,I forgot,thanks for the rep!
 
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ROFL Potters Clay did you rep me to correct my spelling? I was on my way out the door when I posted that. In a big hurry,{have been all Christmas.} I looked at the word the way I spelled it and spell correct said I was wrong so I just went with whatever spelling it offered. But my spelling was a lot closer to the right spelling "etiquette" Spell check lied to me!! I feel betrayed :( Next time Im sticking with my own spelling!!

Oh,I forgot,thanks for the rep!
No not at all my dear but after you brought that up look what I found


[h=2]Urban Dictionary: Edicate[/h]www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Edicate
Edicate is when you're not edumacated enough to spell etiquette! ... Top Definition Edicate. Edicate is when you're not edumacated enough to spell etiquette!

Now I'm rofl I completely missed it.....but rep what you posted. :D
 
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- I've been accused of it.
- it's been called satanic and heretical etc etc
- what is it?
- where does it originate?
- does God employ anything like 'replacement theology'?

sorry, I'm aware there are a million threads out there. here's one more.
108 pages and 4 weeks later. Zone? Did you ever get your question answered?
 
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zone is a preterist

you have to color inside the lines of that dichotomy to satisfy the response which is predetermined by the blink once and you miss it middle America does not live here mindset

say whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

she prefers to lead us all down the garden path...doesn't want the weeds pulled ...
 

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zone is a preterist

you have to color inside the lines of that dichotomy to satisfy the response which is predetermined by the blink once and you miss it middle America does not live here mindset

say whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

she prefers to lead us all down the garden path...doesn't want the weeds pulled ...
Hello LaruenTM,

These preterists and amillennialists are going to find out the hard way that, end time events are just beginning, with the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments soon to take place. Because they believe that everything has been fulfilled at the destruction of the temple, they have no idea of the severity and magnitude of God's coming wrath upon this earth. But they will realize it once it the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments begin to literally take place one after another.
 
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zone is a preterist

you have to color inside the lines of that dichotomy to satisfy the response which is predetermined by the blink once and you miss it middle America does not live here mindset

say whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

she prefers to lead us all down the garden path...doesn't want the weeds pulled ...
Jesus was led down a garden path once....some say when he comes back...he's going to pull every weed.....just sayin
 
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108 pages and 4 weeks later. Zone? Did you ever get your question answered?
She got her answer... there is no such thing as replacement theology. Replacement theology only exists in the warped minds of Christian Zionist, it has nothing to do with reality or the bible.
 
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No not at all my dear but after you brought that up look what I found


Urban Dictionary: Edicate

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Edicate
Edicate is when you're not edumacated enough to spell etiquette! ... Top Definition Edicate. Edicate is when you're not edumacated enough to spell etiquette!

Now I'm rofl I completely missed it.....but rep what you posted. :D

Im not miffed, (spell checked...cool) I thought it was funny. lol You know the hard words I can usually spell,its the easy words that get me. How much sense does that make?
 
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108 pages and 4 weeks later. Zone? Did you ever get your question answered?

She wasn't asking a question,she was telling you what she believes. The title was a false flag.
 
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She got her answer... there is no such thing as replacement theology. Replacement theology only exists in the warped minds of Christian Zionist, it has nothing to do with reality or the bible.
No idea what you're talking about, but I suspect you don't either.

Ends up Kayla was right. She did get her answer.
Question: "What is replacement theology / supersessionism?"

Answer: Replacement theology (also known as supersessionism) essentially teaches that the church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. Adherents of replacement theology believe the Jews are no longer God’s chosen people, and God does not have specific future plans for the nation of Israel. Among the different views of the relationship between the church and Israel are the church has replaced Israel (replacement theology), the church is an expansion of Israel (covenant theology), or the church is completely different and distinct from Israel (dispensationalism/premillennialism).

https://www.gotquestions.org/replacement-theology.html
 
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Hello LaruenTM,

These preterists and amillennialists are going to find out the hard way that, end time events are just beginning, with the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments soon to take place. Because they believe that everything has been fulfilled at the destruction of the temple, they have no idea of the severity and magnitude of God's coming wrath upon this earth. But they will realize it once it the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments begin to literally take place one after another.

the mocking and derision that appears to be a part of the preterisim defense, is indication of 'another' spirit

I've seen enough of it both on other forums and in person, to make that statement

if one studies the roots of this demonic teaching, it should become obvious that is does not have biblical basis
 
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Jesus was led down a garden path once....some say when he comes back...he's going to pull every weed.....just sayin


yeah Potter's...Jesus chose that path if I remember right..........:)
 
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She got her answer... there is no such thing as replacement theology. Replacement theology only exists in the warped minds of Christian Zionist, it has nothing to do with reality or the bible.

Here we have the cruxt of what replacement theology is. It comes from zionists and could not possibly come from people studying Gods word?

This is the worst reason or interpretation to reject those who appose replacement theology. And is nothing more than another silly ATTACK which we have all come to get used to from "MOST" of those who are preterists.