Helmet of "Hope of Salvation"
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The reason i bring this up, because it seems to me this generation likes to think they are wearing a "Helmet of Salvation" and not wearing the helmet "The HOPE of Salvation" This generation thinks and believes they already have it, therefore why HOPE for it if you already HAVE it. But this Scripture instructs us to wear the helmet "The HOPE of Salvation" and for good reason we are to wear it, because we are to HOPE for that Salvation, it is not guaranteed as this generation likes to believe. This generation likes to wear the Helmet of Salvation, instead of the Helmet Scriptures speak of, which is the HOPE of Salvation, big difference. But He that is enduring to the end to be Saved, is indeed wearing that helmet "The HOPE of Salvation"
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DiscipleDave
It is specifically written in many places that a person who hates does not love God or know God, it is written that those who hate will not enter into Heaven. So even though i live today as described above, if a year from now, big Bubba breaks into my house, rapes me, and then fails to kill me after stabbing me 12 times, i am left paralized and maimed for the rest of my life. Are you trying to tell me that i CAN'T turn away from God? i hate this person, and i will never forgive this person, EVER. Am i still Saved? Today my Salvation is sure, sealed, and i am Heaven Bound. But NOWHERE in All of Scriptures does it teach that person can't fall away from that, Can't turn away from God after they are Saved. This generation believes a few verses that tickle their ears (OSAS verses) all the while ignoring, making void, or interpreting away all the other verses which teach it is NOT. They believe in a false doctrine, a false security. And these do not listen to me, when i plainly tell them what God plainly told me. That. "If what you believe contradicts even one verse in Scriptures, then what you believe is WRONG" Those who grasp those Words of God given to me to give to this generation, will begin to start to see the TRUTH, those who reject that Word from God will be rejected by God likewise. For it is not me that you reject, but Him who told me that.
mine neither. The difference is i understand that just because my heart and mind are well with God TODAY, does not mean it will be well with God a year from now, that is the difference between Truth and believing lies that come from satan who appears as an angel of Light.
An Angel appears to you and tells you Once You Are Saved you are always Saved, this teaching is contrary to some verses in Scriptures (a person can be blotted out of the Book of Life) Therefore that Angel is NOT from God, but is from satan which looks like an Angel from God. NO ANGEL will ever tell you something that is contrary to Scriptures, any verse, any chapter, any book of Scriptures. They can't.
i base my assurance on the Word of God as well. But i believe Scriptures and not false doctrines that are being taught today. Even though my assurance of Salvation is based on the Word of God, it is the very Word of God that plainly teaches you can fall away, you can choose of your own free will to deny Jesus Christ, to turn away from God, to hate others, to not forgive others. Tell me all you that think your Salvation is assured forever, answer me this question, which i would think you will not do. If you are Assured of your Salvation today, and tomorrow someone does something very terrible to you and your family, and you hate that person, and will not forgive that person because of what he did to you and your children. Tell me Are you still SAVED? Is it not written if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will God forgive you of yours. So are you saying that if a person is TRULY SAVED, it is not possible, they can ever hate someone? That they will always forgive anyone who does them very wickedly. Careful how you answer, God just may test you on that?
How is this not from your own mind and your own thinking? Have i said anything anywhere where it would seem that my hope is on my ability to please God for Salvation. This is coming from your own mind and thinking, i have never said such a thing, or even implied it.
People, please be careful is accusing the brothers and sisters, for it is written of satan that he too falsely accused the brothers day and night. If you are going to accuse me of this or that, then by all means do the Godly thing, and reveal what i said that makes you THINK that is what i believe. How is falsely accusing someone of a thing, in LOVE? If you are going to accuse someone of something, then do the Godly thing, and reveal the reason why you are accusing thus. How hard is it to quote a person and what they say, and then accuse them?
But not this generation they would much rather just accuse a person of this or that, not based on what they actually said, but solely based on what they have judged concerning that person and what they believe.
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DiscipleDave
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I'm not really OSAS and have never said I was on this forum
in fact, several people here that I pm with me, will attest to that fact that I am not
my observation was the sly way you introduced it
that, I don't like
I am 100% in agreement with those who state that it is Christ's sacrifice and ultimately the Holy Spirit in each of those who are His, that does keep us
I am also 100% in agreement with those who state that we most certainly can know we are saved
a lack of comprehension and a lack of study...whether because of simple laziness or a disregard for proper exegetical practice...often misinterprets
in your case, it may be the lattetr
in fact, several people here that I pm with me, will attest to that fact that I am not
my observation was the sly way you introduced it
that, I don't like
I am 100% in agreement with those who state that it is Christ's sacrifice and ultimately the Holy Spirit in each of those who are His, that does keep us
I am also 100% in agreement with those who state that we most certainly can know we are saved
a lack of comprehension and a lack of study...whether because of simple laziness or a disregard for proper exegetical practice...often misinterprets
in your case, it may be the lattetr
If one accepts the people of the Kingdom are different in nature to the people of
the world, their behaviour will distinguish them apart.
Now obviously imitating the behaviour does not make you changed, the change
brings about the behaviour.
So it is a fair point to make, if your behaviour does not change, do you know
the truth of Christ? And if you have no change yet claim to have a hope, how
can this be true?
It is obvious this change in part in mystical, but it is also reflected by ones desires
and will. If you hate Gods ways and law, it suggests you hate God also.
If you love Gods ways and law, it suggests you love God also.
Not exactly rocket science. If you walk away from God equally, it suggests
the word and truth did not take root in your soul, as walking away makes better
sense than going deeper. Equally the more you learn about God, the greater the
hunger, and the more you want to learn. This suggests something profound has
happened in your life.
the world, their behaviour will distinguish them apart.
Now obviously imitating the behaviour does not make you changed, the change
brings about the behaviour.
So it is a fair point to make, if your behaviour does not change, do you know
the truth of Christ? And if you have no change yet claim to have a hope, how
can this be true?
It is obvious this change in part in mystical, but it is also reflected by ones desires
and will. If you hate Gods ways and law, it suggests you hate God also.
If you love Gods ways and law, it suggests you love God also.
Not exactly rocket science. If you walk away from God equally, it suggests
the word and truth did not take root in your soul, as walking away makes better
sense than going deeper. Equally the more you learn about God, the greater the
hunger, and the more you want to learn. This suggests something profound has
happened in your life.
We are not discussing the HOPE for the Kingdom of God or the Hope for what is in Heaven, we are specifically discussing the verse that plainly teaches the helmet of "The HOPE of Salvation" and why the Apostle said the word "HOPE" and calling the helmet "The HOPE of Salvation" you have in the above statement changed the title of the helmet to mean "The HOPE of Heaven" or "The HOPE of the Kingdom of God" We are not talking about Heaven or the Kingdom of God. We are talking about The hope of Salvation.
True, wait for what though? According to that verse and what it plainly teaches, it is Salvation that we HOPE for, that we wait for. And Scriptures confirms this as well, He that endures to the end shall be Saved. This generation refuses to accept this Truth, That it is ONLY on Judgement Day that a person is SAVED or NOT SAVED. It is ONLY on that day if your name is STILL written in the Book of Life, that you will be SAVED, Raptured up to be with Him forever and ever.
Tit_1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
Tit_2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Tit_3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Heb_3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
Heb_6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end: (Did you catch that?)
1Pe_1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
Many Scriptures teach to HOPE to the end. If this generation thinks and believes they already HAVE Salvation, then what would they HOPE for to the end? They already have it, and can't possibly lose it. People, wake up, and start understanding the Word of God and what it teaches. lay aside all that you believe from men, and start believing the Word of God and what it actually says. All these verses plainly teaches you to Hope to the end, i have revealed to you WHY? and for what reason we HOPE to the end for, and that is Salvation, He that endures to the end shall be SAVED, because ONLY on Judgement Day is a person SAVED. That is what we HOPE for, that our names will be written in the Book of Life and have not been blotted out. Right now my name is written in the Book of Life, Does that guarantee that it will still be there on Judgment Day? NO, it does not mean that. You do greatly error if you believe once your name is written in the Book of Life that it can't possibly be removed. Would it not behoove you to search diligently to find out this answer? Because if you continue on the path that you are one now, you will hear Jesus telling you "I never knew you, you that practice sin"
This is True. Just remember though, you choose to wear the helmet and/or breastplate, and just because a person puts it on once or twice does not mean they will have the full armor on them come Judgment Day. Those who choose to wear the full armor of God will be taken up to be with Him, those who are wearing none, or parts of the armor will be rejected by Him.
Amen, i like that.
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DiscipleDave
True, wait for what though? According to that verse and what it plainly teaches, it is Salvation that we HOPE for, that we wait for. And Scriptures confirms this as well, He that endures to the end shall be Saved. This generation refuses to accept this Truth, That it is ONLY on Judgement Day that a person is SAVED or NOT SAVED. It is ONLY on that day if your name is STILL written in the Book of Life, that you will be SAVED, Raptured up to be with Him forever and ever.
Tit_1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
Tit_2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Tit_3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Heb_3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
Heb_6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end: (Did you catch that?)
1Pe_1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
Many Scriptures teach to HOPE to the end. If this generation thinks and believes they already HAVE Salvation, then what would they HOPE for to the end? They already have it, and can't possibly lose it. People, wake up, and start understanding the Word of God and what it teaches. lay aside all that you believe from men, and start believing the Word of God and what it actually says. All these verses plainly teaches you to Hope to the end, i have revealed to you WHY? and for what reason we HOPE to the end for, and that is Salvation, He that endures to the end shall be SAVED, because ONLY on Judgement Day is a person SAVED. That is what we HOPE for, that our names will be written in the Book of Life and have not been blotted out. Right now my name is written in the Book of Life, Does that guarantee that it will still be there on Judgment Day? NO, it does not mean that. You do greatly error if you believe once your name is written in the Book of Life that it can't possibly be removed. Would it not behoove you to search diligently to find out this answer? Because if you continue on the path that you are one now, you will hear Jesus telling you "I never knew you, you that practice sin"
This is True. Just remember though, you choose to wear the helmet and/or breastplate, and just because a person puts it on once or twice does not mean they will have the full armor on them come Judgment Day. Those who choose to wear the full armor of God will be taken up to be with Him, those who are wearing none, or parts of the armor will be rejected by Him.
Amen, i like that.
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DiscipleDave
Just because someone gives their opinion what Biblical Hope means, does not make it FACT.
Hope, even according to the Bible means something that you do NOT have, it is something you HOPE for. Has this generation even changed the meaning of the word HOPE as to fit into their own doctrines?
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DiscipleDave
As for me, i will continue to believe HOPE means hope, exactly like the word says. Ask a child what the word HOPE means, and you will be better off believing the words of that child then you would be believing the words of the Hebrew and Greek definitions. What then? If a person in this generation reads a verse and they believe what it says, they do not take that verse to the Hebrew and Greek. But it is only when a person of this generation reads a verse they do not agree with what it says, that they go to the Hebrew and Greek to find ANOTHER meaning for the verse, thereby changing the plain simple meaning of the verse to fit into their own doctrine via the Hebrew and Greek.
Trust the Holy Ghost, not doctrines of men.
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DiscipleDave
Most disregard me, because that is what God told me this generation would do. He already told me, this generation would not receive the things that He told me. i even asked Him during that conversation, why then even tell them, if you know they will not hear it? He then told me "So they will not be able to plead ignorance when they stand before ME, they will have no cloak for their sins"
So then those MOST you refer to, will hear my name again on Judgement Day when Jesus says to them "My servant DiscipleDave told you the TRUTH which he testified came from ME, and you rejected what I told him" You that are the MOST have been warned.
Is it any wander the TRUTH is rejected in a world devoid of the TRUTH. Jesus was killed for teaching the Truth. Most of the Apostles were killed for teaching the TRUTH. The Truth has no place in a world that currently belongs to satan, therefore is it any wander that MOST reject it when they hear it?
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DiscipleDave
So then those MOST you refer to, will hear my name again on Judgement Day when Jesus says to them "My servant DiscipleDave told you the TRUTH which he testified came from ME, and you rejected what I told him" You that are the MOST have been warned.
Is it any wander the TRUTH is rejected in a world devoid of the TRUTH. Jesus was killed for teaching the Truth. Most of the Apostles were killed for teaching the TRUTH. The Truth has no place in a world that currently belongs to satan, therefore is it any wander that MOST reject it when they hear it?
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DiscipleDave
There are no verses that contradict the Power of God, that is absolutely True. However that is not what i said. i plainly said there are hundreds of verses that contradict the belief Once you are Saved, you are Always Saved.
Those who are kept by the power of God, are they that walk in God, not in darkness. Is it not written:
1Jn_5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth (kept) himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Those who are kept by the Power of God, the wicked one does not touch, as does this verse confirms. So those who are KEPT by the Power of God through Faith unto Salvation, have it. The problem with this generation is they do not understand the Scriptures nor do they actually understand the Power of God. For if this generation would use the Power of God that is at their disposal, they would not willingly obey satan and commit and live in sins. They would use the Power of God to overcome every temptation that comes upon them, and overcome the wicked one, to where he does not touch them. It is the Power and Strength of God that prevents me, nay, that keeps me, from falling for any temptation satan tries to touch me with. This generation knows not this Power or Strength of God when it comes to their own sinning, that sin that so easily besets them, which we are instructed to cease from. No this generation believes in doctrines that tickle their ears, easy to swallow, easy to believe, all the while professing they are on the narrow and difficult path that leads to Life Everlasting.
Even that verse, teaches Salvation is not automatic, but is a PATH towards it. No not this generation they believe OSAS, and ignore all verses which plainly teach otherwise. If you are on the narrow and difficult path, the OSAS believers think it is not possible for them to ever get off that path, that once they are on that path, that it is not possible to leave that path. How is this not a teaching from satan, to cause believers to stay away from the Truth?
Tell me, who is on the wide and broad path that leads to destruction, that does not think they are on the narrow and difficult path that leads to Life Everlasting? And do NOT think it is the unsaved, because i will tell you the TRUTH, the unsaved don't believe in any path whatsoever broad or narrow, they are unsaved, unbelievers, NONE of them think they are on a path of any kind. So answer the question, Who is on the wide and broad path that leads to destruction, that does not THINK they are on the narrow and difficult path that leads to Life Everlasting?
Also if you are one of those who THINKS you are on the narrow and difficult path, how is it difficult for you?
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DiscipleDave
Those who are kept by the power of God, are they that walk in God, not in darkness. Is it not written:
1Jn_5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth (kept) himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Those who are kept by the Power of God, the wicked one does not touch, as does this verse confirms. So those who are KEPT by the Power of God through Faith unto Salvation, have it. The problem with this generation is they do not understand the Scriptures nor do they actually understand the Power of God. For if this generation would use the Power of God that is at their disposal, they would not willingly obey satan and commit and live in sins. They would use the Power of God to overcome every temptation that comes upon them, and overcome the wicked one, to where he does not touch them. It is the Power and Strength of God that prevents me, nay, that keeps me, from falling for any temptation satan tries to touch me with. This generation knows not this Power or Strength of God when it comes to their own sinning, that sin that so easily besets them, which we are instructed to cease from. No this generation believes in doctrines that tickle their ears, easy to swallow, easy to believe, all the while professing they are on the narrow and difficult path that leads to Life Everlasting.
Even that verse, teaches Salvation is not automatic, but is a PATH towards it. No not this generation they believe OSAS, and ignore all verses which plainly teach otherwise. If you are on the narrow and difficult path, the OSAS believers think it is not possible for them to ever get off that path, that once they are on that path, that it is not possible to leave that path. How is this not a teaching from satan, to cause believers to stay away from the Truth?
Tell me, who is on the wide and broad path that leads to destruction, that does not think they are on the narrow and difficult path that leads to Life Everlasting? And do NOT think it is the unsaved, because i will tell you the TRUTH, the unsaved don't believe in any path whatsoever broad or narrow, they are unsaved, unbelievers, NONE of them think they are on a path of any kind. So answer the question, Who is on the wide and broad path that leads to destruction, that does not THINK they are on the narrow and difficult path that leads to Life Everlasting?
Also if you are one of those who THINKS you are on the narrow and difficult path, how is it difficult for you?
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DiscipleDave
1Th_5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
Why do you think the Holy Inspired by God Scriptures instructs us to put on the helmet "The HOPE of Salvation"
Why HOPE?
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DiscipleDave
Can we please try to stay on topic. if you want to discuss Faith, start a thread concerning Faith, if you want to discuss fasting, start a thread on Fasting. This particular thread is concerning the verse above. Thanks
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DiscipleDave
The One who keeps us in 1 John 5:18 is Christ Himself. We are "in Christ" - joined as one spirit with Him. Sealed by the Holy Spirit.
1 John 5:18 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.
Paul is not a liar nor is the Lord Jesus Christ. Paul says that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit after we believed when we heard the message of Christ's work on the cross and resurrection for us - as us.
The Holy Spirit is with us forever Jesus said.
John 14:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]"I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;
[SUP]17 [/SUP]that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.
Ephesians 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
The Spirit of truth is with us forever!
2 John 1:2 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] for the sake of the truth which abides in us and will be with us forever:
Jesus said that the Holy Spirit will be with us and in us forever. John 14:16-17. Our Lord is NOT a liar.
1 John 5:18 says we are safe in the Lord as He keeps us. Isn't that exciting to know that? Let's "repent" and believe the gospel - just like Jesus said to do in Mark 1:15.
That is the hope of salvation - in biblical understanding. It is all by grace through faith in Christ's work. Leave that helmet on and you will grow in the Lord and have your mind protected from the fiery darts of the evil one.
Like the "fiery dart" that God will forsake you as some erroneously teach.
1 John 5:18 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.
Paul is not a liar nor is the Lord Jesus Christ. Paul says that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit after we believed when we heard the message of Christ's work on the cross and resurrection for us - as us.
The Holy Spirit is with us forever Jesus said.
John 14:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]"I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;
[SUP]17 [/SUP]that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.
Ephesians 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
The Spirit of truth is with us forever!
2 John 1:2 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] for the sake of the truth which abides in us and will be with us forever:
Jesus said that the Holy Spirit will be with us and in us forever. John 14:16-17. Our Lord is NOT a liar.
1 John 5:18 says we are safe in the Lord as He keeps us. Isn't that exciting to know that? Let's "repent" and believe the gospel - just like Jesus said to do in Mark 1:15.
That is the hope of salvation - in biblical understanding. It is all by grace through faith in Christ's work. Leave that helmet on and you will grow in the Lord and have your mind protected from the fiery darts of the evil one.
Like the "fiery dart" that God will forsake you as some erroneously teach.
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Just because someone gives their opinion what Biblical Hope means, does not make it FACT.
Hope, even according to the Bible means something that you do NOT have, it is something you HOPE for. Has this generation even changed the meaning of the word HOPE as to fit into their own doctrines?
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DiscipleDave
According to me? Where? How? Who is filling your head with these things? i have never said that is not a FACT, you say according to you, but do not even mention where i have said such a thing. Tell me, have i offended you in any way? if not, why say such things against me, saying that i do not believe what Scriptures plainly teach? Who, is telling you these things? What voices are you listening to? i have never said what you are accusing me of above, so who is telling you that i have?
Again the voices you are listening to, are deceiving you. Who told you that i am an expert? Who told you that i can tell who has or doesn't have? i have not attacked any particular person, anywhere on these boards, if you think i have then reveal it. i have not said one particular person has, or doesn't have, if you think so, then reveal it. But i already know you won't because you can't, because i haven't done this thing that you accuse me of. i forgive you.
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DiscipleDave
This is merely one of hundreds of verses that contradict the lie OSAS.
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DiscipleDave
OK. What is that to me, if you are or are not, i have never made a comment to you one way or the other concerning what you are or what are not.
So you judge me as doing this as a sly way? i will tell you the Truth, when i started this thread, it had NOTHING to do with OSAS. But the Holy Spirit of God prompted me to ask that question about that particular verse. i was not being sly or devious, or any other thing, but doing that which the Holy Spirit of God prompted me to do.
What is it to me, that in your own mind, you thought i did it to be sly?
i believe this as well, but i believe All inspired by God Scriptures not just picking and choosing which ones i will believe and which ones i will not believe, i believe the verses which teach how we can choose our own selves to deny Christ, we can choose to fall away from the Faith, we can choose to hate someone, we can choose not to forgive others, we can choose walk in darkness, we can choose to produce bad fruits instead of good. So even though He does Keep us, we can CHOOSE for Him not to. We can deny His Power and Strength ever time we are tempted to do something that we know full well is against Jesus, against God, against righteousness, but we choose to do it anyways, not seeking Jesus help. And altogether make excuses for their continued sinning, as long as they don't think they have to STOP. YOU CHOOSE who you will serve by who you CHOOSE to obey, this is Scriptures.
i most certainly know i am Saved, and my name is written in the Book of Life. But just because Today, my name is written in the Book of Life, does NOT mean it can never be blotted out, like Scriptures plainly teach it can be.
Interpretations belong to God, not to men. So any time a person tries to interpret the Word of God via their own intellect, their own studies, their own knowledge, opens the door for satan to come in and speak to that person and tell them lies. Why? Because these do not understand the Truth of Scriptures, nor will they hearken to me, which teaches what the Scriptures plainly teach, that interpretation belong to God, NOT TO MEN. So any interpretation that comes from man, is indeed tainted.
i love you and i forgive you.
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DiscipleDave
You are not far from the Kingdom of God, What you teach here, is what the Holy Spirit of Truth reveals.
The part that you say not taking root in your soul, i would like to comment on.
Luk 8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word (Jesus) with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe (SAVED), and in time of temptation fall away. (Choose to live in sin)
The seeds that fell on the rocks, according to Jesus Himself, said and taught that these received Him with JOY, And He teaches they BELIEVED. But they did not endure to the end did they? Many today do not stop believing in Him even though they fall away to sinfulness, These still think they are SAVED, goats they are, led about by their own selves, and not following or obeying the voice of the Sheppard, because they are not sheep.
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DiscipleDave
The part that you say not taking root in your soul, i would like to comment on.
Luk 8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word (Jesus) with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe (SAVED), and in time of temptation fall away. (Choose to live in sin)
The seeds that fell on the rocks, according to Jesus Himself, said and taught that these received Him with JOY, And He teaches they BELIEVED. But they did not endure to the end did they? Many today do not stop believing in Him even though they fall away to sinfulness, These still think they are SAVED, goats they are, led about by their own selves, and not following or obeying the voice of the Sheppard, because they are not sheep.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
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So you judge me as doing this as a sly way? i will tell you the Truth, when i started this thread, it had NOTHING to do with OSAS. But the Holy Spirit of God prompted me to ask that question about that particular verse. i was not being sly or devious, or any other thing, but doing that which the Holy Spirit of God prompted me to do.
I am not in awe...read my 2nd post and be enlightened...you are not a prophet to the forums
i love you and i forgive you.
in any case, it can only be one of 2 things...so what's to forgive?
listen Dave...you come on here every once in a while trying to teach your brand of personal interpretation
I would think you expect people to disagree because that is what happens and here it is again
1Th_5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
Why do you think the Holy Inspired by God Scriptures instructs us to put on the helmet "The HOPE of Salvation"
Why HOPE?
Here is what Scriptures teach and this generation altogether will not believe it, nor listen to it.
Rom_6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
This generation does not understand nor believe this Scriptures, this generation claims with their mouth "Jesus is my Master, Lord, and Savior" yet they willingly obey satan and his temptations, all the while continuing to think and believe that Jesus is still their Master, altogether failing to understand this verse and many other such verses like it, all because they put their Trust in a few verses while ignoring hundreds of others verses. Blind they are, and the ditch awaits them, UNLESS, they repent of their sinning, and look to Jesus Christ for His Strength and Power against satan when he comes tempting them. But only a few will FIND this Truth, and i mean a very few.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave