Someone please help me with this debate I'm in with these atheist fools

[PrynceNY]

As the scriptures says Psalm 14:1 - The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.



I personally have encountered many atheist there really is no point in going back & forth with them. As the scriptures says for they had no love for the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Not only are you dealing with the person you are dealing with the spirits they allowed in their lives to keep them blinded. Reguardless if an atheist believes in God or not they will be judged by him. They will not escape judgement. Normally when I mention that to them they go slient. At the end of the day they have freewill. We are to plant seeds of the gospel & pray for them. God will not force people to accept him.

 

[South_FLA]

As the scriptures says Psalm 14:1 - The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.



I personally have encountered many atheist there really is no point in going back & forth with them. As the scriptures says for they had no love for the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Not only are you dealing with the person you are dealing with the spirits they allowed in their lives to keep them blinded. Reguardless if an atheist believes in God or not they will be judged by him. They will not escape judgement. Normally when I mention that to them they go slient. At the end of the day they have freewill. We are to plant seeds of the gospel & pray for them. God will not force people to accept him.

I agree with everything you say. That's what I'm doing planting the seed. I just want to show them evidence, some people need to be shown some proof in order to believe. Maybe I can help them or maybe not. At least I tried.

 

[South_FLA]

Welcome to CC! Here are some links to apologetics sites. I would agree with Utah's comments... these links likely won't bring a person to faith, but they may help answer some of the silly criticisms.

ReasonableFaith.org – Defend Biblical Christianity, Apologetics, Bible Questions
www.carm.org
Home | Apologetics - C.S. Lewis Society (Florida)
RZIM
Creation | Creation Ministries International
Creation, Evolution & Science Ministries | "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." 1 Thess 5:21
www.answersingenesis.org


and on YouTube:
Greg Koukl
Ravi Zacharias
William Lane Craig
Ray Comfort

and many others...

May the Lord be with you!

Exactly, I just wanted to answer some of their silly criticisms. Thank you!

 

[PrynceNY]

I agree with everything you say. That's what I'm doing planting the seed. I just want to show them evidence, some people need to be shown some proof in order to believe. Maybe I can help them or maybe not. At least I tried.

There have been cases in which people who were unsure of the existence of God asked him to reveal himself & he did. A person first has to be open to the existence of God but the majority of them are blinded by rebellion & arrogance. I bet if you ask those same atheist did they even ask God to reveal himself they will say no.

 

[Ugly]

So in this comment section on youtube there was this atheist guy mocking Christian music. Later down the line another one comes in and now they're saying there's no evidence of Jesus and the bible isn't credible. Can you provide me the best links to articles that prove Jesus Christ's existence and that supports the bible's claims? I'm a new Christian so I'm not good with this stuff.

Firstly you are highly unlikely to change the mind of anyone through yt comment sections.

Secondly, if you are a new believer then you need to focus on your own spiritual growth before you can think about being a solid witness. I have witnessed, first hand, that a new believer with no real knowledge can be more damaging than helpful. You can't teach others when you don't even know the answers yourself.

 

[South_FLA]

There have been cases in which people who were unsure of the existence of God asked him to reveal himself & he did. A person first has to be open to the existence of God but the majority of them are blinded by rebellion & arrogance. I bet if you ask those same atheist did they even ask God to reveal himself they will say no.

I know. If I asked them that question they would just be like "Ask God if he's real? Okay. Oh flying spaghetti monster, show me your noodly goodness. Ramen. HURRDURR"

 

[notuptome]

God has provided two types of revelation. God has given us the bible as written revelation of His existence. Those who choose not to accept the written revelation are left with the natural revelation. All of nature points to the existence of God.

Men do not deny the existence of God because they cannot find Him but they deny God because of what they know about God. They know that God judges sin. They know but do not want to face the problem so they deny anything related to God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[South_FLA]

Firstly you are highly unlikely to change the mind of anyone through yt comment sections.

Secondly, if you are a new believer then you need to focus on your own spiritual growth before you can think about being a solid witness. I have witnessed, first hand, that a new believer with no real knowledge can be more damaging than helpful. You can't teach others when you don't even know the answers yourself.

I'm not trying to teach them. I just want to refute their claims with links.

 

[Magenta]

I know. If I asked them that question they would just be like "Ask God if he's real? Okay. Oh flying spaghetti monster, show me your noodly goodness. Ramen. HURRDURR"

Sadly many are online simply to mock. They show their closed mind and hardness of heart.

 

[Depleted]

I provided them a link. I will not try to hard to argue with them I just want to refute their claims with links.

https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/does-god-exist-4-new-arguments

 

[SovereignGrace]

The bible is our proof of God's existence. It's called Sola Scriptura, scripture alone. If they will not accept the bible, there's nothing you can do other than pray for them.

 

[South_FLA]

The bible is our proof of God's existence. It's called Sola Scriptura, scripture alone. If they will not accept the bible, there's nothing you can do other than pray for them.

I think its a good idea that I should show them evidence that the bible backs up its claims. I did pray for them already.

 

[Magenta]

The bible is our proof of God's existence. It's called Sola Scriptura, scripture alone. If they will not accept the bible, there's nothing you can do other than pray for them.

The Bible does not promote Sola Scriptura, and it is a sola in relation to traditions of men such as the RCC elevating traditions above Scripture. In fact, we are encouraged to seek the Truth and Jesus promises to show Himself to the sincere/diligent seeker. People may believe because they are convinced by Scripture alone, to begin with perhaps, but then faith grows through interaction and prayer and any other number of things, not to mention those who believe the Scriptures because of personal revelation of God first, and not vice versa...

 

[South_FLA]

Sadly many are online simply to mock. They show their closed mind and hardness of heart.

ikr? I used to mock God too back when I was atheist. I was such an idiot lol. The funny thing was I really did have a hardened heart. I didn't realize that till' now.

 

[Depleted]

I agree with everything you say. That's what I'm doing planting the seed. I just want to show them evidence, some people need to be shown some proof in order to believe. Maybe I can help them or maybe not. At least I tried.

Meh. Those who hate God can get no evidence that suits them. The evidence is there anyway. (I'm just summarizing Romans 1 in Lynnie-words. lol) You may not reach them. You may not reach anyone. You (and all of us) are seed sowers. God does the reaching. And, God doesn't necessarily reach the person arguing directly, but who knows who will show up that he does reach? Because of that, I added to your link list.

If you are called to do this, it's helpful to know what it's called so you can find more evidence in the future. It's called "apologetics." It means "defending." I've been doing it for decades online. Got to warn you, it feels very fruitless. Then again, I'm not the harvester. I'm a seed planter, who never gets to see the fruit that comes from the seed. Good deal considering what God has given us.

BTW, I usually hate modern Christian music, because it seems like neither -- modern nor Christian. Just wanted to let you know there are other reasons for hating the music besides hating God.

 

[Ugly]

I'm not trying to teach them. I just want to refute their claims with links.

So you are trying to take act that you hope leads them to learn something new, to change their minds. That's teaching.
Many people here have been Christians longer than you've been alive. If you came here for help perhaps it's time to heed it from people who know better. Just because you aren't getting the answer you want doesn't mean you aren't getting the answer that is most important. That's often how God operates. Giving us what we need, not what we want.

 

[South_FLA]

So you are trying to take act that you hope leads them to learn something new, to change their minds. That's teaching.
Many people here have been Christians longer than you've been alive. If you came here for help perhaps it's time to heed it from people who know better. Just because you aren't getting the answer you want doesn't mean you aren't getting the answer that is most important. That's often how God operates. Giving us what we need, not what we want.

Lol dude relax. I came here for help and to receive answers from brethren who know much much more than me. I did get the answers I want and needed. I'm not writing essays to these atheists. When they say something to disprove the bible I'll provide a link to counteract it. Plain and simple. "Many people here have been Christians longer than you've been alive." You really think I didn't know that?

 

[Depleted]

ikr? I used to mock God too back when I was atheist. I was such an idiot lol. The funny thing was I really did have a hardened heart. I didn't realize that till' now.

Two things:
1. What ikr? (I haven't kept up with online shorthand. lol)

2. You'll get a lot of people telling you not to do this. In my thinking, it's a ministry. Some are called into it and others aren't. The only way to find out if we have the gift for a ministry is to try it out. If it's not in you to do it, then you learn it's not your ministry. If it is, and it encourages you in the Lord as well as encourages others, then it is your ministry. Don't let anyone talk you out of it before you try it, simply because you'll never know if that's what God will have you do until you do try it. And, yeah, you may end up getting hurt, and you may end up saying stuff that isn't accurate, but we are seed sowers, not God. And since God is God and he always-always gets his way, that includes when we don't do things just right. (i.e., the verse in my signature.) Just letting you know that considering how many are trying to talk you out of it.

 

[SovereignGrace]

ikr?
I know, right? Right?

 

[Depleted]

So you are trying to take act that you hope leads them to learn something new, to change their minds. That's teaching.
Many people here have been Christians longer than you've been alive. If you came here for help perhaps it's time to heed it from people who know better. Just because you aren't getting the answer you want doesn't mean you aren't getting the answer that is most important. That's often how God operates. Giving us what we need, not what we want.

If you are God's representative for what we need, then apparently the only thing we need is to be scolded.

(BTW, if you weren't so busy scolding, you'd notice people have given her what she asked for and needed.)