Someone please help me with this debate I'm in with these atheist fools

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South_FLA

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If you are God's representative for what we need, then apparently the only thing we need is to be scolded.

(BTW, if you weren't so busy scolding, you'd notice people have given her what she asked for and needed.)
I'm a guy by the way.
 

South_FLA

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Two things:
1. What ikr? (I haven't kept up with online shorthand. lol)

2. You'll get a lot of people telling you not to do this. In my thinking, it's a ministry. Some are called into it and others aren't. The only way to find out if we have the gift for a ministry is to try it out. If it's not in you to do it, then you learn it's not your ministry. If it is, and it encourages you in the Lord as well as encourages others, then it is your ministry. Don't let anyone talk you out of it before you try it, simply because you'll never know if that's what God will have you do until you do try it. And, yeah, you may end up getting hurt, and you may end up saying stuff that isn't accurate, but we are seed sowers, not God. And since God is God and he always-always gets his way, that includes when we don't do things just right. (i.e., the verse in my signature.) Just letting you know that considering how many are trying to talk you out of it.
Thank you :) .. Idk why there are some people trying to rebuke me and telling me not to respond. I'll do what I want lol. I'll defend God if I want to.
 

South_FLA

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Meh. Those who hate God can get no evidence that suits them. The evidence is there anyway. (I'm just summarizing Romans 1 in Lynnie-words. lol) You may not reach them. You may not reach anyone. You (and all of us) are seed sowers. God does the reaching. And, God doesn't necessarily reach the person arguing directly, but who knows who will show up that he does reach? Because of that, I added to your link list.

If you are called to do this, it's helpful to know what it's called so you can find more evidence in the future. It's called "apologetics." It means "defending." I've been doing it for decades online. Got to warn you, it feels very fruitless. Then again, I'm not the harvester. I'm a seed planter, who never gets to see the fruit that comes from the seed. Good deal considering what God has given us.

BTW, I usually hate modern Christian music, because it seems like neither -- modern nor Christian. Just wanted to let you know there are other reasons for hating the music besides hating God. :)
I honestly think most Christian music sucks. Modern or old.
 
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Thank you :) .. Idk why there are some people trying to rebuke me and telling me not to respond. I'll do what I want lol. I'll defend God if I want to.
Some of us know how bad this can get, and are trying to protect you.

But yeah, I do what I want anyway, and recognize it in others. lol
 

South_FLA

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Some of us know how bad this can get, and are trying to protect you.

But yeah, I do what I want anyway, and recognize it in others. lol
I do realize they're trying to protect me which I appreciate. But these atheists needed a good hard evidence smack. I posted this post to help with the smacking. I did not want to engage in a debate on my own. If I did argue on my own they would definitely win.
 

Blain

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A lot of times people commenting on youtube are little less than trolls and some of them are full on trolls, youtube is not a good place to prove anything and even if you show proof good luck with people accepting it as such. if people don't want to believe something it doesn't matter how much evidence you give them they will just throw it back at you as trash.

Not to mention a debate with Atheists is not for one who is young in Christ this kind of debate is for the mature and grown in faith
 

Blain

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I do realize they're trying to protect me which I appreciate. But these atheists needed a good hard evidence smack. I posted this post to help with the smacking. I did not want to engage in a debate on my own. If I did argue on my own they would definitely win.
Trust me it won't do any good their minds are so set in stone that you won't be able to budge them, don't throw your pearls to the swine and don't let people trample over your jewels.
 

South_FLA

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A lot of times people commenting on youtube are little less than trolls and some of them are full on trolls, youtube is not a good place to prove anything and even if you show proof good luck with people accepting it as such. if people don't want to believe something it doesn't matter how much evidence you give them they will just throw it back at you as trash.

Not to mention a debate with Atheists is not for one who is young in Christ this kind of debate is for the mature and grown in faith
Please read my comments on this post. I 've already explained my reason for doing this. I know I'm new to Christ that is why I came here for help.
 
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So in this comment section on youtube there was this atheist guy mocking Christian music. Later down the line another one comes in and now they're saying there's no evidence of Jesus and the bible isn't credible. Can you provide me the best links to articles that prove Jesus Christ's existence and that supports the bible's claims? I'm a new Christian so I'm not good with this stuff.
If they are not going to believe,they are not going to believe,and Jesus said if they do not hear the word of God they will not believe even if one rose from the dead and told them.

Anybody can actually go against any group of people and appear to find fault with them,what are we going to do,for if they do not believe the Bible,how can you refute them,for they will say what they say,for the only way to stop them is if you bring up scriptures that they say hey that is truth,or they see a miracle they cannot refute,but you have to let off,which God says avoid foolish and unlearned questions,and it is better to not even discuss anything with them,and do not reprove a scorner lest he hate you,and God does not like strife between people.

Atheists have a different reality,and they will go by that.

That is what I do not like about people that claim to be with Christ,and then they are on television debating with people,but have little knowledge of the Bible.The world will bring up almost anything to try to prove they are right.

Prophesy would be the best way to prove God's word is true,which God said in Isaiah 41 that He identifies Himself as the true God by showing the whole history of mankind,and no other religion or person would be able to do,but it is still unlikely they will believe.

It is better to leave them alone,or post a few scriptures and get a move on,because God does not like us striving with people over His word.
 

South_FLA

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Trust me it won't do any good their minds are so set in stone that you won't be able to budge them, don't throw your pearls to the swine and don't let people trample over your jewels.
I know man. I was just defending God. I showed evidence and that's it. God will deal with them if he wants to.
 
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Trust me it won't do any good their minds are so set in stone that you won't be able to budge them, don't throw your pearls to the swine and don't let people trample over your jewels.
All our minds were set in stone. And then there is God.
 

South_FLA

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If they are not going to believe,they are not going to believe,and Jesus said if they do not hear the word of God they will not believe even if one rose from the dead and told them.

Anybody can actually go against any group of people and appear to find fault with them,what are we going to do,for if they do not believe the Bible,how can you refute them,for they will say what they say,for the only way to stop them is if you bring up scriptures that they say hey that is truth,or they see a miracle they cannot refute,but you have to let off,which God says avoid foolish and unlearned questions,and it is better to not even discuss anything with them,and do not reprove a scorner lest he hate you,and God does not like strife between people.

Atheists have a different reality,and they will go by that.

That is what I do not like about people that claim to be with Christ,and then they are on television debating with people,but have little knowledge of the Bible.The world will bring up almost anything to try to prove they are right.

Prophesy would be the best way to prove God's word is true,which God said in Isaiah 41 that He identifies Himself as the true God by showing the whole history of mankind,and no other religion or person would be able to do,but it is still unlikely they will believe.

It is better to leave them alone,or post a few scriptures and get a move on,because God does not like us striving with people over His word.
Wow. How many times is someone gonna tell me this same answer? I know what I'm doing. I shared evidence with them to back up the bible. That's it. No one is "striving".
 

Laish

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Trust me it won't do any good their minds are so set in stone that you won't be able to budge them, don't throw your pearls to the swine and don't let people trample over your jewels.
Hello Blain I have to respectfully disagree with you . You never know how God chooses to save a man or woman.
I was one of those foolish atheists. It was not until I realized that what I knew about the Bible and God was wrong .
The work of apologetics dose defend God's good name but it also helps with strengthening the new in Christ along with bringing some to Christ .
Blessings
Bill
 

Blain

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Hello Blain I have to respectfully disagree with you . You never know how God chooses to save a man or woman.
I was one of those foolish atheists. It was not until I realized that what I knew about the Bible and God was wrong .
The work of apologetics dose defend God's good name but it also helps with strengthening the new in Christ along with bringing some to Christ .
Blessings
Bill
Perhaps they can be moved but it won't be done in this manner, it's like using a pick axe to dig deep into the mountains it takes time patience and lots of piercing through the hard stone. But perhaps I am wrong after all God is known to be unpredictable
 

Magenta

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Perhaps they can be moved but it won't be done in this manner, it's like using a pick axe to dig deep into the mountains it takes time patience and lots of piercing through the hard stone. But perhaps I am wrong after all God is known to be unpredictable
I learned a lot as a fairly young Christian talking to non believers on various sites over a period of eight years, total, before coming here. I would not suggest it for anyone who is weak in their faith, though. Atheists make no bones about wanting to destroy that which should be most precious to us.
 

TurtleLife

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Gary Habermas is the expert on the historical Jesus evidence and the resurrection. Also, Lee Strobel, a former atheist, has written a number of books and is on Youtube. Remember, that when you engage someone, if they are only wanting to ask endless questions and argue rather than put some work in by looking at the resources, then JUST WALK AWAY.