The President elect

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I think it is a bit odd that so many people are not concerned with Trumps alleged ties to Putin. I don't know whether this be the truth though, but we'll just have to wait and see.
Why is it that so many people seem to think it is a good thing to search for, develop, and harbor a hateful relationship with other countries? I think it was Abe Lincoln who said: "I don't think I like that man over there; I believe I will go over, and get to know him."
 
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Funny how right wingers did not feel that way when Republicans obstructed Obama at every term. Soon Obama will leave office with the highest approval rating in history. Four years from now, let's compare his numbers with those of Trump.
How about four years from now (and even 8) we compare the positive contributions of both? As has been said here before, even heroin, adultery, and porn have high approval ratings.
 
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Trump started the birther movement and demanded that Obama disclose his birth certificate.

Strangely, we are still awaiting disclosure of his tax returns for the past 20 years. It is rumored on liberal websites that he will not do so because it will disclose that he gave many thousands to Planned Parenthood.
What if he did? At one time, I actually had the distorted idea that Obama could be a good thing for this country. But that was before he proved to be just another race-baiting divider.
 
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Usually the word "both"...sort of denotes a pair...or two. Apparently whatever school you went to taught you a bit differently from that basic English language principle. Makes sense as to why I rarely understand you tho...so there's that.
You just saw an example of how certain people think who are constantly on the lookout for something (anything) to throw at the other side. "Both" becomes three.... or even four, in their minds.
 
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Trump started the birther movement and demanded that Obama disclose his birth certificate.

Strangely, we are still awaiting disclosure of his tax returns for the past 20 years. It is rumored on liberal websites that he will not do so because it will disclose that he gave many thousands to Planned Parenthood.
I don't really care about Trump's tax returns. I go to H&R Block. As for Obama, he was probably born in Kenya but at this juncture it's a moot point.
 
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Why is it that so many people seem to think it is a good thing to search for, develop, and harbor a hateful relationship with other countries? I think it was Abe Lincoln who said: "I don't think I like that man over there; I believe I will go over, and get to know him."
And I think that is why I support Trump because he wants to reestablish relationships with other countries that were destroyed over the years because of poor judgement upon our government and he knows how vital it is for us to have Israel on that list....the bible does say to pray for the peace Jerusalem and he is not fearful of standing up to the bullies or in our case terrorist countries and straighten them out :)
 

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:eek:Kicked to the curb Is a personal I'm disappointed with him way of saying he has finished his term.

President Obama was never Impeached.
Just saying.:)
Now THERE is a rousing endorsement.....

hey, he may have been a disaster for our nation, and spent tax money on his vacations like a drunken sailor on shore leave, but at least he wasn't IMPEACHED....

:rolleyes:
 

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Maybe they were bow ties.
I tried a mental image of Putin in a spotted bow-tie.... didn't work.... :D

somebody with photoshop skilz should work on that....
 

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Funny how right wingers did not feel that way when Republicans obstructed Obama at every term. Soon Obama will leave office with the highest approval rating in history. Four years from now, let's compare his numbers with those of Trump.
Yes, 4 years from now, lets compare Obama's approval ratings to those of Trump.

And, let's not use the same polling companies that got the election completely wrong.
 

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And I think that is why I support Trump because he wants to reestablish relationships with other countries that were destroyed over the years because of poor judgement upon our government and he knows how vital it is for us to have Israel on that list....the bible does say to pray for the peace Jerusalem and he is not fearful of standing up to the bullies or in our case terrorist countries and straighten them out :)
Yes.... the old adage of catching more flies with honey than vinegar seems to fit here. There is no reason to be un-civil to other world leaders.

You can be civil, and still firmly oppose what they say/do.
 
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Why is it that so many people seem to think it is a good thing to search for, develop, and harbor a hateful relationship with other countries? I think it was Abe Lincoln who said: "I don't think I like that man over there; I believe I will go over, and get to know him."
Interesting,but we know Vladimir Putin so we are trusting our CIA and not being easily played by a well placed compliment hiding bad Intentions to the United States of America's well being.
 
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What if he did? At one time, I actually had the distorted idea that Obama could be a good thing for this country. But that was before he proved to be just another race-baiting divider.
Before President Obama proved(as you see It)to be another race baiting divider,what Influenced you to believe he would be good for the country?
 
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Why is it that so many people seem to think it is a good thing to search for, develop, and harbor a hateful relationship with other countries? I think it was Abe Lincoln who said: "I don't think I like that man over there; I believe I will go over, and get to know him."
This hasn't got to do with harboring hateful relationships with other countries. I'm just being curious as to why he for so long are publicly not trusting the intelligence services while he is steadily being flattered by Putin?
 
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Now THERE is a rousing endorsement.....

hey, he may have been a disaster for our nation, and spent tax money on his vacations like a drunken sailor on shore leave, but at least he wasn't IMPEACHED....

:rolleyes:
Does that mean he was KICKED out of office or Is It just another occasion for the dissapointed(such as yourself)to add a slight/Insult.
 
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Before President Obama proved(as you see It)to be another race baiting divider,what Influenced you to believe he would be good for the country?
Basically that as running as a black person, that he just might be someone who could influence the black people in a positive way as Dr. King did. Unfortunately, it didn't take long to see that his influence wasn't going to be much different that of Al's or Jessie's.
 
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This hasn't got to do with harboring hateful relationships with other countries. I'm just being curious as to why he for so long are publicly not trusting the intelligence services while he is steadily being flattered by Putin?
It is a wise man who doesn't trust the Washington machine. Almost any Military man will tell you just how trustworthy they are.... especially the millions of dead men, if they could talk.
 

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This hasn't got to do with harboring hateful relationships with other countries. I'm just being curious as to why he for so long are publicly not trusting the intelligence services while he is steadily being flattered by Putin?

Trusting Our Intelligence Agencies: Volume #1


1. FBI LAST WEEK:
The Associated Press just won a LAWSUIT against the FBI, because the FBI was BREAKING THE LAW by REFUSING to release records (about their own wrongdoing) in a FOIA request.

LINK: News from The Associated Press

A. The FBI hired hackers to break into iPhones.
B. The FBI lied publicly, and said hacking into an iPhone was impossible.
C. The truth was exposed, but the FBI REFUSED to turn over information in a LEGAL FOIA REQUEST.
D. The ASSOCIATED PRESS had to SUE the FBI, to get the documents about the hacking.

So the FBI was hiring hackers, breaking into things, lying about it, and then ignored their LEGAL REQUIREMENT to release documents about their crimes in a FOIA request... and finally had to be SUED.

Nice.

Gee, I can't see any reason not to trust them.


2. FBI 4 Months Ago:
The FBI tries to HIDE information about the Hillary investigation from Congress, so Congress has to issue FBI a SUBPOENA on national television.


A. Congress had the right and responsibility to see all investigation records from the FBI case.
B. The FBI just REFUSED to turn the investigation records over to Congress.
C. Congress had to issue a SUBPOENA to the FBI, and FORCE THEM to turn over records about Hillary.

So, the FBI is investigating Hillary, refuses to turn the information over to Congress (obviously hiding it for some reason), and the Congress has to issue a subpoena to FBI to legally force them to turn over their information.

Nice.

Gee, I can't see any reason not to trust them.


[video=youtube;OztgH7gNBEY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OztgH7gNBEY[/video]




Conclusions:

A. I think that every time people want to cry about how much we should trust our SPOTLESS, PURE, INNOCENT intelligence agencies... I'll just post a few more incidents like these.

B. These incidents of corruption in intelligence agencies are virtually endless... this is not a winning game for the liberals.
 
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Basically that as running as a black person, that he just might be someone who could influence the black people in a positive way as Dr. King did. Unfortunately, it didn't take long to see that his influence wasn't going to be much different that of Al's or Jessie's.
:)Fair Answer.
 

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Does that mean he was KICKED out of office or Is It just another occasion for the dissapointed(such as yourself)to add a slight/Insult.
What?? I don't understand your comment/question... can you rephrase, or clarify it?

YOU are the one that was bragging that he wasn't impeached... not me. I was making fun of YOU for thinking that simply because he was not impeached proves he was a "good" president. All in fun, of course....:)
 
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What?? I don't understand your comment/question... can you rephrase, or clarify it?

YOU are the one that was bragging that he wasn't impeached... not me. I was making fun of YOU for thinking that simply because he was not impeached proves he was a "good" president. All in fun, of course....:)
;)Yes It was all In fun,don't worry about It,I'm talking about the explaining or rephrasing.