Obama....the national embarrassment.

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Joseph, I'm not supporting BHO, I'm not even a democrat. Have you ever read anything I have written about the democrats and BHO?;) So no, you're wrong about how I can "allege with" him.

The rest of the post is neither accurate nor inaccurate. You've roughly hit the nail, except from a couple of smashed fingernails;) lol.

I don't know how you can allege with Obama-gone-a Jenny. Your, I think, exactly the person whom the democrats disdain. Now I am taking some liberties here. I may be wrong about some of the things I am going to point out regarding you. But even if I am, it does not blunt the bigger issue.
So please forgive me and feel free to correct me. Still, again, any assumptions that I got wrong does not alter the main discourse.

The democrats look down on mid America. The same area of the country that embraced Trump. On a personal note, while I was born and raised in a big city, and love city life, I will be the first to admit that from my experience the people of small town America, and that includes most of Vermont, where I have lived for the past 3 years, are the salt of the earth.

I fact after living here, I don't know if I would want to relocate my 2 girls to a big city. I think the quality of life here is better for them.
But on the what I was going to say before I digressed.

So Jenny comes from a hard working family, from the country. The education level is probably college level, but probably not PHD or master degree level for most of them. She, and most of her family probably are content for the most part of where they live. They understand having a roof over their head, 3 meals a day, and the basics is a gift from the Lord. At least a fair number of her family probably have some belief in God. They work hard, live comfortably, but probably have never had a level of financial wealth that would put them in the 1% class.
They are probably fine with all this.

Now cut to Obama and Meryl Streep. In their world it is almost sinful (oops forgot, they don't use that word because there is no god) to not want to leave the small town for the big city. In their world everyone wants to, even if they don't have the talent, be on top. College professors, the creative and entertainment field, the sciences, art and culture. Master degrees, authors, and worldly.
If you don't fit this description they disdain you. Your deplorable. You have no drive. Your clueless. Your slave labor. Your common as dirt. Your sub human. They love immigrants more then you, a family that has been here or industrial age refuse to them.

Of course they will never say that straight out, but they are coming closer and closer to admitting it.
Deplorable's. Re train them. And now Streep. Get rid of Hollywood and all you'll have is football and MMA, she said.

The compassionate liberal. Freedom to be whatever you want. Tolerance, As long as you fit their paradigm of what the ideal is. If not, give me a country expression here Jenny, they will turn faster on you then...?
(Faster then a sneeze through a screen door?)

What a joke. They hate you. They are haughty. They hate our God, the one true God, because he has caused wars according to them He divides.

Yeah, no S___. Those with me or those who deny me. But that's the old ignorant way.

Why don't we get it? One world order and religion is the way to go.

But you and I Jenny are not evolved enough to see it.

Respect to you and your fellow states men. If I am in a foxhole, I want your group 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.

Obama is a traitor and saboteur.
Not to mention he is mentally ill. And a ego maniac on par with Trump. Probably worse.

But at least Trump is our ego maniac.
 

Dude653

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I would not want to be in the shoes of anyone opposing Israel...
I wouldn't say I oppose Israel but I don't believe we should cater to their every whim as the zionists believe
 
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That's about 18% of Americans: roughly the same percentage who don't pass their high school diplomas (another shameful statistic which Obama made great strides to remedy).

Look, compared to Trump, most of Europe and the rest of the world see Obama as a saint.

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roughly the same percentage who don't pass their high school diplomas "

So are you saying everyone who voted Trump is an uneducated person?


Quote "Look, compared to Trump, most of Europe and the rest of the world see Obama as a saint."

Oh Im sure they do. Europe leans more liberal in their beliefs,so thats no surprise. How about we wait and see what happens when he gets in office.If he doesn't take the country in the direction the people want to see Americans will vote him out in four years.
 
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roughly the same percentage who don't pass their high school diplomas "

So are you saying everyone who voted Trump is an uneducated person?


Quote "Look, compared to Trump, most of Europe and the rest of the world see Obama as a saint."

Oh Im sure they do. Europe leans more liberal in their beliefs,so thats no surprise. How about we wait and see what happens when he gets in office.If he doesn't take the country in the direction the people want to see Americans will vote him out in four years.
Trump overwhelmingly leads rivals in support from less educated Americans | PBS NewsHour

It's no coincidence. Trump's rhetoric appeals to people who feel out of step with forward thinking agendas. This is a climate-science denying, multiple-bankruptcy, far right candidate whose political discourse was nearly entirely pathos. "Build a wall", "they're rapists", "China is beating us", "I remember the good old days, when this [protester] would be carried out in a stretcher".

Idiotic man.
 
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Dude653

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Trump overwhelmingly leads rivals in support from less educated Americans | PBS NewsHour

It's no coincidence. Trump's rhetoric appeals to people who feel out of step with forward thinking agendas. This is a climate-science denying, multiple-bankruptcy, far right candidate whose political discourse was nearly entirely pathos. "Build a wall", "they're rapists", "China is beating us", "I remember the good old days, when this [protester] would be carried out in a stretcher".

Idiotic man.
I concur... his platform was rhetoric and propaganda. He's very good at demagogue tactics and misdirection.
 
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renewed_hope

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Trump overwhelmingly leads rivals in support from less educated Americans | PBS NewsHour

It's no coincidence. Trump's rhetoric appeals to people who feel out of step with forward thinking agendas. This is a climate-science denying, multiple-bankruptcy, far right candidate whose political discourse was nearly entirely pathos. "Build a wall", "they're rapists", "China is beating us", "I remember the good old days, when this [protester] would be carried out in a stretcher".

Idiotic man.
Well, thank you for calling us ignorant and stupid to those of us who voted Trump. Just so you know, the people that I have been in contact with who fully supported Trump are nowhere near stupid...in fact they are highly educated some have law degrees and a few are doctors, but a higher education has nothing to do with why they voted for who they voted for....it comes down to the brass tax. We don't kill babies and we want jobs brought back to the US to boost our economy and our government to be held accountable for the state our nation is in, which is turmoil. Trump was not afraid to talk about correcting these things. If we are stupid because of all of that, I'm okay with it because I can sleep well at night knowing our country is in better hands with Trump.

Since I'm so dumb and uneducated it's probably a good time to breathe, don't you think?
 

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I know abortion was a hot ticket item in the Trump candidacy but if you have not adopted or assisted in the adoption of any unwanted children then your opinion is irrelevant
 

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I know abortion was a hot ticket item in the Trump candidacy but if you have not adopted or assisted in the adoption of any unwanted children then your opinion is irrelevant
You do not need to adopt a child to understand murdering one is wrong....
 
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renewed_hope

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I know abortion was a hot ticket item in the Trump candidacy but if you have not adopted or assisted in the adoption of any unwanted children then your opinion is irrelevant
Dude, if I were you, I'd watch what you post! You have no idea what you are talking about and saying my opinion is irrelevant is not okay. It's basic human knowledge that God created us with not to want to end a human life on our terms....there is even a commandment on it.

I have taught kids who were abused, not wanted, and who had serious developmental problems. My mom and her three siblings came from an adoptive home because her biological home was not safe and the state took them away....so if I were you, I would l stop right there. God gave me opinions and a mouth to speak them and you have no right saying it is irrelevant because they very much are
 
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kaylagrl

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PBS is well known to be liberal,I wouldn't expect them to say anything else. But let me share Mike Rowes Facebook answer to the "uneducated Trump supporters" charge.


Albert Samos writes…The media has recently been stating that Donald Trump's key supporters didn’t graduate from college. They constantly refer to these people as "uneducated white men.” As an electrical contractor who happens to be a white guy with six employees but no college, I find this vaguely offensive and somewhat confusing. What do you think of the media characterizing people this way?
Hi Albert
If the media is referring to Trump supporters who happen to be male caucasians suffering from a lack of knowledge brought about by an absence of formal or practical instruction, than I guess “uneducated white men” is a fair description. However, if the Trump supporters in question are being dubbed “uneducated,” simply because they didn’t earn a four-year degree, I’d say the media’s slip is showing.

Let’s assume that Donald Trump is indeed popular among white men who didn’t graduate from college. The first question is, so what? Is this information newsworthy? Obviously, thousands of journalists think it is. To your point, the words “uneducated white men” now appear in hundreds of articles about Trump. But if this is truly important information, where were these reporters four years ago? In the last election, an even greater majority of African-American males who voted for President Obama had no college on their resume. Maybe I missed it, but I don’t recall any headlines or articles that delved into Obama’s popularity among “uneducated black men.”


If the media didn’t care about the lack of college among black men supporting Obama, why do they care so much about the lack of college among white men supporting Trump? Moreover, when exactly did a lack of college become synonymous with a lack of education?

There are many ways to become educated that don’t involve the purchase of a diploma. Why would the media ignore thousands of apprenticeship programs, on-the-job-training opportunities, and all the other alternative educational options that have led so many people into so many successful careers? The answer is obvious - many in the press are looking for ways to impact the election. If a biased reporter can get away with labeling Trump supporters who didn’t graduate from college as “uneducated,” he can simultaneously imply that any ballot cast for Trump is the hallmark of an “uneducated” voter.

If you’re only “vaguely offended” by this Albert, maybe it’s because you’ve seen it all before. Never mind the fact that you run a successful business. Never mind your years of training, your skill, your knowledge, your diligence, your commonsense, and every other quality that allowed you to succeed. In this political climate, none of that matters. These days, you’re just another white guy who never made it to college, voting for the “wrong candidate.”

It’s impossible for me to have this conversation and not think of my grandfather. Pop never made it to college. In fact, he never made it out of the 7th grade. But he never stopped learning or studying. He started as an electrician’s helper, became an apprentice, a journeyman, a master electrician, a contractor, and then a small business owner. Later, as an electrical inspector for the state, he was responsible for guaranteeing the safety of hundreds of buildings in Maryland, as well as all the rides on the carnival midway at the State Fair. He was a modest man of real intelligence, admired and respected by everyone who knew him. But today, he’d be right there with you, Albert - swelling out the ranks of “uneducated white men.”

Forget the election for a moment, and the medias role in it. The issue of what it means to be “educated” in 2016 has far greater implications. Right now, 5.8 million jobs currently exist that employers can’t seem to fill. Meanwhile, outstanding student loans will eclipse 1.3 trillion dollars this year, college tuition continues to rise, and once again, a new crop of deeply indebted college graduates will enter the workforce with none of the necessary skills to fill those open positions.
Closing the skills gap and making college more affordable is beyond my pay grade, but it seems like we could start by reminding the media that a college degree is not the only path to success. It’s well and good to promote higher education, but it’s crazy to suggest the most expensive road to enlightenment is the best path for the most people. And it’s equally nuts to pressure our kids to keep borrowing vast sums of money to become “educated” in careers that no longer exist.

On Dirty Jobs, I met hundreds of highly trained, highly intelligent, highly knowledgeable citizens who went on to prosper without the benefit of a university experience. These people should be congratulated, not used a pawns by reporters with a political agenda. I don’t care who you’re voting for - your college diploma - or your lack thereof - has nothing to do with the wisdom of your choice.

Anyway Albert, that’s a long way of saying you have every reason to be “vaguely offended and somewhat confused.” The media has minimized your work, insulted your intelligence, and ignored your contribution to civilized life. Try not to take it personally. Just keep doing what you do. Run your business. Vote your conscience. Keep the lights on for the rest of us. And the next time some hack writer impersonating a journalist attacks a candidate by calling their supporters “uneducated” - simply because their base of knowledge isn’t memorialized on a sheepskin - send them this picture and tell ‘em their slip is showing, and one lousy hatchet job deserves another...

https://www.facebook.com/TheRealMikeRowe/posts/1260196947323779:0


Do you know who else is "uneducated"? Lets look deeper...

Jennifer Lopez-[FONT=&quot]After high school, Lopez attended
Baruch College[FONT=&quot] for one semester. However, she soon quit her pursuit of a higher education to pursue her singing and dancing dreams.

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Madonna- attended the University of Mich.School of music,and dropped out

Beyonce-did not attend college

Jay Z- never attended college

Bon Jovi- never went to college

Demi Lovato- never went to college and took home schooling in high school

Sarah Silverman- attended NYU for a year and dropped out

Ellen De GeGeneres- attended college for one year and dropped out

Katy Perry- did not go to college

Lady Gaga-went to college for a year,then dropped out

De Niro- dropped out of high school at 16

Miley Cyrus- did not attend college.

Please tell me again how Trump supporters are uneducated?

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There are many who gripe about abortion but it never made any attempt to adopt a child or assist anyone who adopt a child. It's kind of like complaining about being hungry when you have food in the refrigerator. I'm not fond of abortion either but I do not have the resources to raise a child or I would gladly adopt a child that someone didn't want. I'm thinking of that single mother who sometimes wonders where her next meal was coming from and the last thing she needs is to bring another child into the world. People who are not willing to assist have nothing to say in the matter
 
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There are many who gripe about abortion but it never made any attempt to adopt a child or assist anyone who adopt a child. It's kind of like complaining about being hungry when you have food in the refrigerator. I'm not fond of abortion either but I do not have the resources to raise a child or I would gladly adopt a child that someone didn't want. I'm thinking of that single mother who sometimes wonders where her next meal was coming from and the last thing she needs is to bring another child into the world. People who are not willing to assist have nothing to say in the matter
unless you've taken grandma in and changed her diapers and gave her a bath everyday you have no say in the matter. The fact she is a drain on society with nobody to take care of her....she should be euthanized.
 
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kaylagrl

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There are many who gripe about abortion but it never made any attempt to adopt a child or assist anyone who adopt a child. It's kind of like complaining about being hungry when you have food in the refrigerator. I'm not fond of abortion either but I do not have the resources to raise a child or I would gladly adopt a child that someone didn't want. I'm thinking of that single mother who sometimes wonders where her next meal was coming from and the last thing she needs is to bring another child into the world. People who are not willing to assist have nothing to say in the matter
Quote " I'm thinking of that single mother who sometimes wonders where her next meal was coming from and the last thing she needs is to bring another child into the world."


Fortunately I have a great solution for this...wait for it...

Ab·sti·nence-is a self-enforced restraint from indulging in bodily activities that are widely experienced as giving pleasure. Most frequently, the term refers to sexual abstinence...
 

Dude653

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Quote " I'm thinking of that single mother who sometimes wonders where her next meal was coming from and the last thing she needs is to bring another child into the world."


Fortunately I have a great solution for this...wait for it...

ab·sti·nence-is a self-enforced restraint from indulging in bodily activities that are widely experienced as giving pleasure. Most frequently, the term refers to sexual abstinence...
Ok... but in my scenario the baby is already here....oh well....let him starve I guess
 
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renewed_hope

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unless you've taken grandma in and changed her diapers and gave her a bath everyday you have no say in the matter. The fact she is a drain on society with nobody to take care of her....she should be euthanized.
Oh so true! Seriously though, i have changed my grandma's diaper when she was alive and let's just say that was an experience that I will never forget, even though I would have liked to
 
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kaylagrl

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Ok... but in my scenario the baby is already here....oh well....let him starve I guess

Come on Dude. You're saying that a person has a child they dont want to take responsibility for and society has to raise them.How is that right. I cant afford to take in a child either. So you know what? I dont have them! And IF there is an oops I will take responsibility for that along with my husband because its morally wrong for me to have a child I dont want and cant afford and expect society to pay to raise them. Almost every church has an outreach to the poor,and people able to adopt do.I personally know several people able to do so and did. We can cut down on the starving child in your scenario by prevention.Dont have sex outside of marriage,dont have children you cannot afford. Its simple.
 

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Dude there are other options, it is never, ever ok to murder a child and to say it is shows just how depraved and perverted your mind is. Since you either just say those things to cause strife or you are that depraved I will block you as it really doesn't matter what the reasoning behind it might be.
 

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I concur... his platform was rhetoric and propaganda. He's very good at demagogue tactics and misdirection.
Who's argument does not involve rhetoric and/or propaganda? Can you define the words: Rhetoric and Propaganda? Why would anyone assume rhetoric and propaganda are inherently negative?

Anyone with a basic high school education, should be able to answer these questions without Google.
 

Dude653

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Here are Obama stats as of 2016. Not the greatest but not the train wreck that Trump will have us believe
 
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Who's argument does not involve rhetoric and/or propaganda? Can you define the words: Rhetoric and Propaganda? Why would anyone assume rhetoric and propaganda are inherently negative?

Anyone with a basic high school education, should be able to answer these questions without Google.
when dude gets the Hershey squirts he likes to come here to relieve himself. Lol