A clear explanation of the Trinity

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FreeNChrist

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Dagallen said:
Yes God the Father has a Spirit .ú
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Ummmm, no. God IS Spirit.
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jaybird88

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FreeNChrist said:
Why ask the question?
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because your the one that seems to think the Shema is a proclamation of monotheism and i simply asked how you came to that conclusion which you cqant seem to answer. i think we know why.
 
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FreeNChrist

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jaybird88 said:
because your the one that seems to think the Shema is a proclamation of monotheism and i simply asked how you came to that conclusion which you cqant seem to answer. i think we know why.
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All I have said is that Christianity is monotheistic, which it is.
 
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Dagallen

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John 5:26 The Father has life in Himself and has given to the Son (Jesus ) to have life in Himself. Life means Spirit, so both are Spiritual being. So why does it say the Father has life in Himself, if He is Spirit without a form of His own ? Just because no man has the Father form, doesn't mean that He has no form, so how can a person say that Jesus is God the Father but God the Father is Spirit only ?
 
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Dagallen

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Let me ponder this, God the Father is Spirit and has no form but at the same, Jesus is God the Father, with Spirit and form, now Jesus went back to His state without form but one day He will return and be seen with a form but yet God the Father's form has never been seen, sounds like something is really twisted.
 
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jaybird88

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FreeNChrist said:
All I have said is that Christianity is monotheistic, which it is.
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no one said Christianity wasnt monotheistic. so whats your statement have to do with the subject?
 
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FreeNChrist

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jaybird88 said:
no one said Christianity wasnt monotheistic. so whats your statement have to do with the subject?
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The question is what does your statement have to do with the subject?
 
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FreeNChrist

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Dagallen said:
Let me ponder this, God the Father is Spirit and has no form but at the same, Jesus is God the Father, with Spirit and form, now Jesus went back to His state without form but one day He will return and be seen with a form but yet God the Father's form has never been seen, sounds like something is really twisted.
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LOL. Yep, something's really twisted alright......
 
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jaybird88

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FreeNChrist said:
The question is what does your statement have to do with the subject?
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Costello: Well, then who's playing first?
Abbott: Yes.
Costello: I mean the fellow's name on first base.
Abbott: Who.
Costello: The fellow playin' first base.
Abbott: Who.
Costello: The guy on first base.
Abbott: Who is on first.
Costello: Well, what are you askin' me for?
Abbott: I'm not asking you--I'm telling you. Who is on first.
Costello: I'm asking you--who's on first?
Abbott: That's the man's name.
Costello: That's who's name?
Abbott: Yes.

thats what i feel like talking to you. . . . .
 
preacher4truth

preacher4truth

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ZacharyB said:
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God has chosen to reveal Himself to us as being
a Triune Godhead of 3 Persons or 3 Manifestations.
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3 persons, not 3 manifestations, the latter being Modalism.

For the record 'Godhead' (KJV term) doesn't refer to the 3 Persons, but to the 'Divine Nature' or 'Deity' (of Christ) yet many use the term as if it refers to the Trinity.
 
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Dagallen

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The trinity was a gentile belief, not a Jewish belief, Jesus was a Jew not a gentile, he warns us not to believe any other gospel, it's really just that simple. Great topic.
 
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jaybird88

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Dagallen said:
The trinity was a gentile belief, not a Jewish belief, Jesus was a Jew not a gentile, he warns us not to believe any other gospel, it's really just that simple. Great topic.
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i dont think its fair to call it a gentile belief. native americans (north america) were gentiles and majority of them didnt have a trinity, they believed in one creator. however natives such as the aztecs had a belief system very similar to the Phoenician system that had a trinity. Phoenicians got their beliefs from their ancestors the Canaanites.
 
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Dagallen

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Gentiles in Latin were called Pagans, as the Pagans/Gentiles had a belief in three sun gods, this belief is where the early beliefs of a trinity came from and yes many from different parts if the world had a Trinity belief but the Jewish people had no such belief but at a time some gave life to such a belief, however the debate is, did Jesus teach such a belief in the writings ? No ! So should I follow the belief Jesus taught or should I follow the of the world ?
 
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Dagallen

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Jesus preferred to be called the son of man, the son ofa heavenly man, who is God the Father, the one called the son of man who had no earthy father, as his spirit was heavenly but his body was earthly. As all spirits came from one Spirit, the Spirit if God the Father, does everyone have a spirit that came from God the Father ? Yes ! Therefore we all have a heavenly part, just as we all have an earthly part,the difference is, we were not obedient unto God the Father but Jesus was always obedient unto His Father.
 
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FreeNChrist

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jaybird88 said:
Costello: Well, then who's playing first?
Abbott: Yes.
Costello: I mean the fellow's name on first base.
Abbott: Who.
Costello: The fellow playin' first base.
Abbott: Who.
Costello: The guy on first base.
Abbott: Who is on first.
Costello: Well, what are you askin' me for?
Abbott: I'm not asking you--I'm telling you. Who is on first.
Costello: I'm asking you--who's on first?
Abbott: That's the man's name.
Costello: That's who's name?
Abbott: Yes.

thats what i feel like talking to you. . . . .
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I understand your confusion.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Dagallen said:
The trinity was a gentile belief, not a Jewish belief, Jesus was a Jew not a gentile, he warns us not to believe any other gospel, it's really just that simple. Great topic.
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The Trinity is a Christian belief.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Dagallen said:
Jesus preferred to be called the son of man, the son ofa heavenly man, who is God the Father, the one called the son of man who had no earthy father, as his spirit was heavenly but his body was earthly. As all spirits came from one Spirit, the Spirit if God the Father, does everyone have a spirit that came from God the Father ? Yes ! Therefore we all have a heavenly part, just as we all have an earthly part,the difference is, we were not obedient unto God the Father but Jesus was always obedient unto His Father.
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All men have a human spirit.
 
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