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BenFTW

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This is new age junk, not even a meaningful phrase.

Every statement for it to be true has another statement that expresses the
opposite situation. This is just the reality of definitions. A definition distinguishes something from
something else which is its value. Because something is defined in a positive way it can be defined
in a negative way, where the object described is not present.

If I define a set of 3 things, the 3 states of water, solid, liquid and vapour, any one state excludes
being any of the other 2, not just one. I could express being not in one particular state as its
polar opposite, but this is just another way of saying the reverse of a positive affirmation of something,
so what.

Once you get into morality or very complex systems, it is dangerous to talk in these terms.
What is the opposite of murder, it is not creating life. Murder is stopping one part of a persons
ability to live, which stops them all. Creating life is a vast complex series of actions, which involve
many processes etc. so the two are not opposites, though in this polarised language can appear so.

Some say war is the opposite of peace, but in reality war is simple, a pitting of total power and ability
to kill of one society against another. Peace is a complex series of negotiations and compromises,
which is much more difficult to set up and maintain. War is the disease of a lack of compromise in
a time of peace.

These simplistic junk ideas like "polarity" give people apparent credibility when they have none.
New Age? I am simply referring to a scientific approach of observation, in which case we see that there are polarities all around us. I don't know how you got New Age out of that, but looked it up and now understand why you may have felt I was referring to something of that sort, but I wasn't.
 
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New Age? I am simply referring to a scientific approach of observation, in which case we see that there are polarities all around us. I don't know how you got New Age out of that, but looked it up and now understand why you may have felt I was referring to something of that sort, but I wasn't.
There a many terms that people use and others think "New Age" - like meditate, or be righteousness-conscious instead of sin-conscious....the word "conscious" throws some people off. It just means to be aware or focused on something.

But of course if they think you should be focusing on sin - then you are New Age if you use the term 'conscious" or polarity...it's the nature of the beast...:)


Polarity definition in the way you used it is not even remotely New Age.

"the state of having two opposite or contradictory tendencies, opinions, or aspects"
 
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Jonteel

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#44
From the minute that I returned to the forums, I was attacked, viciously, Well, I really didn't want to return, but God made me. About 23 years ago, I walked away from the forums. Let me repeat, I never wanted to return. God pushed. God said, "They don't even know the definition of sin!" I thought that God was wrong. God was right.

People threatened me, I was called a Heretic and ridiculed. People asked who sent me! People said that I was in it for money! There's no one that cares about you that they would pay someone to come and work here.

My friends warned me about Trolls. There were Trolls here 23 years ago, and when I departed I said that I wouldn't return. I would rather not deal with people like this.

God and I had an agreement. If I saw this was insanely distasteful, I would just leave for 23 years and try again later.
 

Magenta

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From the minute that I returned to the forums, I was attacked, viciously, Well, I really didn't want to return, but God made me. About 23 years ago, I walked away from the forums. Let me repeat, I never wanted to return. God pushed. God said, "They don't even know the definition of sin!" I thought that God was wrong. God was right.

People threatened me, I was called a Heretic and ridiculed. People asked who sent me! People said that I was in it for money! There's no one that cares about you that they would pay someone to come and work here.

My friends warned me about Trolls. There were Trolls here 23 years ago, and when I departed I said that I wouldn't return. I would rather not deal with people like this.

God and I had an agreement. If I saw this was insanely distasteful, I would just leave for 23 years and try again later.
Is this your goodbye?
 
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Jonteel

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#46
Ok, I am going to 4 forums to give my goodbye message and this person has followed me to another forum.. I was NOT going to identify the man who threatened me, but this is him...His name on the other forum is **edited**. It is a sick and twisted mind to threaten someone in a Christian foru. Check him out at this place **link removed**
Wow. Just Wow. His name here is **edited**
Well, I wasn't coming back, but this man may be dangerous.
 
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Jonteel

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#47
I dont know how to report him. You guys need to report him quick... He may be dangerous.

I will be back to see if he's been taken care of... He will just assume another name and return to Troll and threaten others.
 

Magenta

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I dont know how to report him. You guys need to report him quick... He may be dangerous.
I will be back to see if he's been taken care of... He will just assume another name and return to Troll and threaten others.
Even if someone did report him, it is no guarantee that he would be banned. The mods would have to check out your claims, and really, what people do on another site probably has no bearing here; meaning, if someone is bothering you on another site, take your complaint to the moderators of the other site. Somebody named Magenta in another site could be behaving very badly but I hope not to take the blame for their behavior...

To report a post/person, click the little triangle bottom left of one of their posts.
 

maxwel

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From the minute that I returned to the forums, I was attacked, viciously, Well, I really didn't want to return, but God made me. About 23 years ago, I walked away from the forums. Let me repeat, I never wanted to return. God pushed. God said, "They don't even know the definition of sin!" I thought that God was wrong. God was right.

People threatened me, I was called a Heretic and ridiculed. People asked who sent me! People said that I was in it for money! There's no one that cares about you that they would pay someone to come and work here.

My friends warned me about Trolls. There were Trolls here 23 years ago, and when I departed I said that I wouldn't return. I would rather not deal with people like this.

God and I had an agreement. If I saw this was insanely distasteful, I would just leave for 23 years and try again later.
I haven't seen anything more vicious than people disagreeing.

If you KNOW you are posting something controversial, you should EXPECT debate and disagreement.



It doesn't seem very reasonable to post something extremely controversial,
and then get mad when people disagree.
 

maxwel

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I dont know how to report him. You guys need to report him quick... He may be dangerous.

I will be back to see if he's been taken care of... He will just assume another name and return to Troll and threaten others.

The fact that you "feel" he may be dangerous, isn't exactly evidence.

If YOU think he's dangerous then YOU need to report him... and you'll need to give the mods some kind of actual evidence.
 
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GODisLOVE7

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I dont know how to report him. You guys need to report him quick... He may be dangerous.

I will be back to see if he's been taken care of... He will just assume another name and return to Troll and threaten others.
“For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.”
2 Timothy‬ 1:7‬ KJV‬‬

“There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.”
1 John‬ 4:18‬ KJV‬‬
 
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Jonteel

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Earlier, I announced that I am leaving ALL the forums because the people who threatened me have mentioned that they knew where the other forums are and where I have posted. I apologised to the nice people in those forums and explained that I anticipated these people following me...

God must have told me that, because at 1:14pm today the guy or guys did. I stumbled across his post as I was prepping to post.

I didnt come here to do anything but help.

Some accuse me of motives like wanting to impress you all. If you have gone to grad school. played pro sports, or been in Special Forces, you dont need to impress people.

I really dreaded returning, and this guy stalking me proves that I am justified in retiring... Bye..
 
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Jonteel

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Fear, that's an insult. I am leaving because I dont want to deal with trolls. My original post was that this interaction is/was distasteful.

I didnt know this guy was strange then. A stalker

I taught in the schools and went hand to hand with gang members, and they never scared me. I will be gone now. This is getting annoying.
 
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Ugly

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Why is it that people who complain and say they are quitting spend so much time, after saying they are quitting because of everyone else, still arguing with those same people? Don't claim you're leaving the site because of how bad things are then sit around feeding arguments, then you become the very person you complain about. All the while playing the victim. You aren't a victim if you draw so much attention to yourself and make such a big deal about leaving.
 

p_rehbein

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I would suggest that if "one has the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit," they do not need to "impress."

Earlier, I announced that I am leaving ALL the forums because the people who threatened me have mentioned that they knew where the other forums are and where I have posted. I apologised to the nice people in those forums and explained that I anticipated these people following me...

God must have told me that, because at 1:14pm today the guy or guys did. I stumbled across his post as I was prepping to post.

I didnt come here to do anything but help.

Some accuse me of motives like wanting to impress you all. If you have gone to grad school. played pro sports, or been in Special Forces, you dont need to impress people.

I really dreaded returning, and this guy stalking me proves that I am justified in retiring... Bye..
 

p_rehbein

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Wait.............WHUT?

It was Chester?

AW SNAP!

I thought you wuz talkings abouts me......

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Ok, I am going to 4 forums to give my goodbye message and this person has followed me to another forum.. I was NOT going to identify the man who threatened me, but this is him...His name on the other forum is **edited**. It is a sick and twisted mind to threaten someone in a Christian foru. Check him out at this place **link removed**
Wow. Just Wow. His name here is **edited**
Well, I wasn't coming back, but this man may be dangerous.
 
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Jonteel, you should expect rough treatment. This is what our Lord told us, and we find it to be true. I mean, lukewarm Christians are treated well by the world, but we should not expect it. I know how distasteful it can be, and even more so when it's someone who claims to know God. Part of dying to the world is to have our feelings hurt over and over until He gets us to where we don't want to murder someone over it or don't want to do anything but love them.

If He is telling you to do this, He is doing it for a reason. Part of the reason may be for you, to grow you in an area of need!
I know it's distasteful sometimes, but it's not about us. It's about winning increase for the Lord we love. And if we learn to be faithful with the little net He gives us, He may be preparing us to fish with a bigger net!
 
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Jonteel, you should <strong>expect</strong> rough treatment. This is what our Lord told us, and we find it to be true. I mean, lukewarm Christians are treated well by the world, but <strong>we</strong> should not expect it. I know how distasteful it can be, and even more so when it's someone who claims to know God. Part of dying to the world is to have our feelings hurt over and over until He gets us to where we don't want to murder someone over it or don't want to do anything but love them.<br><br>If He is telling you to do this, He is doing it for a reason. Part of the reason may be&nbsp;for you, to grow you in an area of need!&nbsp;<br>I know it's distasteful sometimes, but it's not about us. It's about winning increase for the Lord we love. And if we learn to be faithful with the little net He gives us, He may be preparing us to fish with a bigger net!<br>
 
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You know you sound a bit like Jonah here? God keeps telling you, they don't know what sin is. You keep not going because you fear you know what their reaction will be. You finally listen to Him but then they are nasty, snotty, and every kind of rude. So what does that really have to do with going where God tells you to? Have you resisted to the point of your blood being shed yet?

I have been very pleased to meet you and hear what you have to say. I'm sorry for all the snottiness. Some of them really aren't like that unless one of their friends begins to mock first and then they get pulled back into the flesh so easily. But He gets us out of every pit dug for us when we are ready to listen.:)