The Old Covenant
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The point you made EG was very simple.
That the Abrahamic Covenant is conditional.
41 if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:
42 Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.
That the Abrahamic Covenant is conditional.
41 if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:
42 Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.
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yeah it is simple.
Even when they are punished because of sin, GOD will still not break his covenant with them.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]Yet for all that, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, nor shall I abhor them, to utterly destroy them and break My covenant with them;
for I am the Lord their God.
[SUP]45 [/SUP]But for their sake I will remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations, that I might be their God:
I am the Lord.’”
Again,
OWNING it is not conditional "Abrahamic covenant"
Being blessed by it, is conditional
The Abrahamic is NOT CONDITIONAL. the mosaic is.. HUGE difference.
If you can not see it, we will have to agree to disagree.
Even when they are punished because of sin, GOD will still not break his covenant with them.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]Yet for all that, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, nor shall I abhor them, to utterly destroy them and break My covenant with them;
for I am the Lord their God.
[SUP]45 [/SUP]But for their sake I will remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations, that I might be their God:
I am the Lord.’”
Again,
OWNING it is not conditional "Abrahamic covenant"
Being blessed by it, is conditional
The Abrahamic is NOT CONDITIONAL. the mosaic is.. HUGE difference.
If you can not see it, we will have to agree to disagree.
I don't think this is a prophecy of the Babylonian exile EG, check out Jeremiah 7:34. This is the same prophecy that was given in Jeremiah 19 except this prophecy is to Judah.
At the same time the city and the people are broken BEYOND REPAIR, the voice of mirth and gladness and the voice of the bridegroom and the bride will cease... Sort of sounds like the book of Revelation doesn't it?
Jeremiah 7:31-34 KJV
And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.
[32] Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord , that it shall no more be called Tophet, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter: for they shall bury in Tophet, till there be no place.
[33] And the carcases of this people shall be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth; and none shall fray them away.
[34] Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride: for the land shall be desolate.
At the same time the city and the people are broken BEYOND REPAIR, the voice of mirth and gladness and the voice of the bridegroom and the bride will cease... Sort of sounds like the book of Revelation doesn't it?
Jeremiah 7:31-34 KJV
And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.
[32] Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord , that it shall no more be called Tophet, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter: for they shall bury in Tophet, till there be no place.
[33] And the carcases of this people shall be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth; and none shall fray them away.
[34] Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride: for the land shall be desolate.
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And here ya go - these verses are AD 70. The time of the valley of slaughter where Rome decimated Jerusalem and broke them into pieces that can not be made whole again. Where the carcases of the Jews were meat for the fowls of heaven and the voice of the bridegroom (Christ) and the bride (the church) cease in Jerusalem and the land lay desolate.
Jeremiah 7:31-34 KJV
And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.
[32] Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord , that it shall no more be called Tophet, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter: for they shall bury in Tophet, till there be no place.
[33] And the carcases of this people shall be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth; and none shall fray them away.
[34] Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride: for the land shall be desolate.
Jeremiah 7:31-34 KJV
And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.
[32] Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord , that it shall no more be called Tophet, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter: for they shall bury in Tophet, till there be no place.
[33] And the carcases of this people shall be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth; and none shall fray them away.
[34] Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride: for the land shall be desolate.
I doubt there where 144,000 jewish innocents in the entire nation of israel during the time of Jesus. let alone around bethlahem during the time of the massacre.. But today in Israel or within the wider Jewish dispora there would be 144,000 innocents..
The scriptures state about the 144,000 that their forheads will be placed a seal to identify them and thus give them protection from the wrath being poured out in the end times .. The dead little ones would not need to be protected because they are not on the earth but with the LORD..
Revelation 7 KJV
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
[SUP]3[/SUP]Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
The scriptures state about the 144,000 that their forheads will be placed a seal to identify them and thus give them protection from the wrath being poured out in the end times .. The dead little ones would not need to be protected because they are not on the earth but with the LORD..
Revelation 7 KJV
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
[SUP]3[/SUP]Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Think about this.. These 144,000 are innocents who have not sinned.. Therefore God is not compromising His way of salvation by saving these little ones from His end times wrath.. He is not saving people who are sinners and who have rejected His Way of salvation.. Since they have no sin they do not need the atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ.. So God can honor His promise to Abraham both in a genetic sence and a spiritual sence without compromising His rightiousness.
The 144,000 will be Jewish people, that have not been defiled by a woman and have dedicated their lives to God.
They are sealed for a simple reason... They are not to die. Satan, the Anti-christ have no power unless God gives it to them and God has sealed these that they may live. They bring about multitudes, many nations that (yes) are martyrs to God during the waning days of the first half of the 7 year tribulations.
They are sealed for a simple reason... They are not to die. Satan, the Anti-christ have no power unless God gives it to them and God has sealed these that they may live. They bring about multitudes, many nations that (yes) are martyrs to God during the waning days of the first half of the 7 year tribulations.
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Those things did happen. The sun, moon and stars are Isael, they don't shine any more and those stars fell from heaven just like a FIG TREE (Israel) casting her UNTIMELY figs when she is shaken by a RUSHING MIGHTY wind in the book of Acts. Very symbolic verses and if you can't recognize the symbolism then there's no point in going further. Sorry I'm not trying to be rude but in my mind those are done deals and my mind wont be changed.
I don't have problem with God redeeming Jews, I have a problem with the timing... this already happened. And the day of the already happened also. Read the book of Joel, it's all about the day of the Lord and absolutely none of it is in our future.
Those things did happen. The sun, moon and stars are Isael, they don't shine any more and those stars fell from heaven just like a FIG TREE (Israel) casting her UNTIMELY figs when she is shaken by a RUSHING MIGHTY wind in the book of Acts. Very symbolic verses and if you can't recognize the symbolism then there's no point in going further. Sorry I'm not trying to be rude but in my mind those are done deals and my mind wont be changed.
I don't have problem with God redeeming Jews, I have a problem with the timing... this already happened. And the day of the already happened also. Read the book of Joel, it's all about the day of the Lord and absolutely none of it is in our future.
The Old Covenant was over as soon as Jesus said it is finished,and died on the cross,and was buried,and rose again,and they could receive the Spirit,for if you can receive the Spirit the Old Covenant is over,not in 70 A.D.
Also we need to heed these scriptures for those who think God is done with Israel.
Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
Rom 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
Rom 11:3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
Rom 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Look at this little tidbit of information.
Jer 33:19 And the word of the LORD came unto Jeremiah, saying,
Jer 33:20 Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;
Jer 33:21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.
Jer 33:22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.
Jer 33:23 Moreover the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, saying,
Jer 33:24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.
Jer 33:25 Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;
Jer 33:26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.
Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
Jer 31:36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Jer 31:37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
Look at this diamond in the rough.I still see the sun,and that ole moon,and those stars still a shining,so God's covenant is still with Israel and He has not cast them off.
God is still there as much as He has ever been to help Israel to come to the truth when they make the move to do so,then when they do it shall be like the days of old,and the kingdom will be restored to her,and she shall flourish.
Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Act 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Act 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
When will you do it asketh the disciples of the kingdom being restored to Israel,and Jesus said,oh it will happen,you can bet your bottom dollar on it,but the Father will do it when He gets good and ready to do it,but do not worry about it and go preach the Gospel.
Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
But lo and behold God will send Israel 2 witnesses and turn Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah,and the kingdom will be restored to them,which Jesus said the Jews will not see Him again until they say,blessed is He that come in the name of the Lord which they will do it.
Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Eze 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.
Look at this needle in the haystack,although it is not,but some people cannot find it along with other scriptures,that God is with Israel as much as He has ever been ever since He established them in the beginning,but it is up to Israel to make a move towards God,but they will for God is going to intervene and prod and poke them until they see the truth,and the kingdom will be restored to them on earth,and the heathen shall know that Israel went in to captivity because of their iniquities,and not acknowledging the truth,but God had mercy on them and took away their sins.
Jer 46:27 But fear not thou, O my servant Jacob, and be not dismayed, O Israel: for, behold, I will save thee from afar off, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and be in rest and at ease, and none shall make him afraid.
Jer 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.
All Gentile governments shall be no more,and Israel will be the only operating government and nation on earth.
Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
And the heathen shall have to go up year after year to Jerusalem and worship the LORD,and keep the feast of tabernacles.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Salvation is of the Jews,and Old Covenant,and New Covenant,were given to Israel.
Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God.
When a Gentile is saved then they become part of the commonwealth of Israel.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
A Gentile becomes a Jew inwardly.
Rev 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
Rev 21:13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
Rev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
The New Jerusalem is patterned after the nation of Israel,and the Jews.
It is Israel all the way,Old Testament given to them,New Testament given to them,kingdom on earth given to them,stripped temporarily from them for disobedient,but restored to them again,all Gentile governments collapse,and New Jerusalem given to them.
Good thing us Gentiles get to be a part of it for it is Israel all the way.
Hey,I still see the sun,and the moon,and the stars,shining.It looks like God's covenant is still will Israel,and He is working with them as much as He ever did,and is there for them as He ever was.All they have to do is make a move to correct their disobedience,but God will see to it they will,for His covenant is with them from Abraham all the way to the New Jerusalem,nothing wavering,because the gifts and calling of God are without repentance,and I am the LORD,I change not,therefore you sons of Jacob are not consumed,and God will take away their inquities,and have mercy on them,for Israel is the Church.
Also we need to heed these scriptures for those who think God is done with Israel.
Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
Rom 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
Rom 11:3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
Rom 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Look at this little tidbit of information.
Jer 33:19 And the word of the LORD came unto Jeremiah, saying,
Jer 33:20 Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;
Jer 33:21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.
Jer 33:22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.
Jer 33:23 Moreover the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, saying,
Jer 33:24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.
Jer 33:25 Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;
Jer 33:26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.
Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
Jer 31:36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Jer 31:37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
Look at this diamond in the rough.I still see the sun,and that ole moon,and those stars still a shining,so God's covenant is still with Israel and He has not cast them off.
God is still there as much as He has ever been to help Israel to come to the truth when they make the move to do so,then when they do it shall be like the days of old,and the kingdom will be restored to her,and she shall flourish.
Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Act 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Act 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
When will you do it asketh the disciples of the kingdom being restored to Israel,and Jesus said,oh it will happen,you can bet your bottom dollar on it,but the Father will do it when He gets good and ready to do it,but do not worry about it and go preach the Gospel.
Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
But lo and behold God will send Israel 2 witnesses and turn Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah,and the kingdom will be restored to them,which Jesus said the Jews will not see Him again until they say,blessed is He that come in the name of the Lord which they will do it.
Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Eze 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.
Look at this needle in the haystack,although it is not,but some people cannot find it along with other scriptures,that God is with Israel as much as He has ever been ever since He established them in the beginning,but it is up to Israel to make a move towards God,but they will for God is going to intervene and prod and poke them until they see the truth,and the kingdom will be restored to them on earth,and the heathen shall know that Israel went in to captivity because of their iniquities,and not acknowledging the truth,but God had mercy on them and took away their sins.
Jer 46:27 But fear not thou, O my servant Jacob, and be not dismayed, O Israel: for, behold, I will save thee from afar off, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and be in rest and at ease, and none shall make him afraid.
Jer 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.
All Gentile governments shall be no more,and Israel will be the only operating government and nation on earth.
Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
And the heathen shall have to go up year after year to Jerusalem and worship the LORD,and keep the feast of tabernacles.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Salvation is of the Jews,and Old Covenant,and New Covenant,were given to Israel.
Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God.
When a Gentile is saved then they become part of the commonwealth of Israel.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
A Gentile becomes a Jew inwardly.
Rev 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
Rev 21:13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
Rev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
The New Jerusalem is patterned after the nation of Israel,and the Jews.
It is Israel all the way,Old Testament given to them,New Testament given to them,kingdom on earth given to them,stripped temporarily from them for disobedient,but restored to them again,all Gentile governments collapse,and New Jerusalem given to them.
Good thing us Gentiles get to be a part of it for it is Israel all the way.
Hey,I still see the sun,and the moon,and the stars,shining.It looks like God's covenant is still will Israel,and He is working with them as much as He ever did,and is there for them as He ever was.All they have to do is make a move to correct their disobedience,but God will see to it they will,for His covenant is with them from Abraham all the way to the New Jerusalem,nothing wavering,because the gifts and calling of God are without repentance,and I am the LORD,I change not,therefore you sons of Jacob are not consumed,and God will take away their inquities,and have mercy on them,for Israel is the Church.
Probably my last reply, because I find your extra large print a bit pointless EG.
If you read Leviticus 26 properly, it simply says what I have already shown.
That if when in exile the Jews confess their sin, then God will remember the Abrahamic Covenant. He doesn't have to do that of course, which is the simple point you are not understanding. He could say "you are cast off forever", but he does not. He was willing to give them another chance.
But the relationship is not unconditional. The Jews have to repent.
You have such a hard time understanding this simple thing, but it is not so hard.
God wanted what he has always wanted, and continues to want. A people who serve him. (Remember: God does not change!)
So what does this show? Simply that the Abrahamic Covenant was conditional.
"Walk with me, be circumcised, and I will be your God"
If you didn't get circumcised, an outward sign of obedience, you were not part of Israel.
The outward sign simply mirrors the inward part, which is subjective to God's judgement. But equally, if you didn't walk properly with God, you were also not Israel.
Both the Abrahamic Covenant and Mosaic Covenant are conditional, they are both obedience related.
What is unconditional is the promise, which was the Church.
If you read Leviticus 26 properly, it simply says what I have already shown.
That if when in exile the Jews confess their sin, then God will remember the Abrahamic Covenant. He doesn't have to do that of course, which is the simple point you are not understanding. He could say "you are cast off forever", but he does not. He was willing to give them another chance.
But the relationship is not unconditional. The Jews have to repent.
You have such a hard time understanding this simple thing, but it is not so hard.
God wanted what he has always wanted, and continues to want. A people who serve him. (Remember: God does not change!)
So what does this show? Simply that the Abrahamic Covenant was conditional.
"Walk with me, be circumcised, and I will be your God"
If you didn't get circumcised, an outward sign of obedience, you were not part of Israel.
The outward sign simply mirrors the inward part, which is subjective to God's judgement. But equally, if you didn't walk properly with God, you were also not Israel.
Both the Abrahamic Covenant and Mosaic Covenant are conditional, they are both obedience related.
What is unconditional is the promise, which was the Church.