Run? What would Jesus do? Thats what we are given the Armor for. The Armor doesn't have any protection on backside. i see what you are saying, but we are conquerors, not cowards, victors, and not victims, through Him that strengthens us. Jesus has been the Word since the beginning, and Paul like everyone else that taught the Word was teaching Jesus.
Live by Jesus teachings or Paul's?
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There are two polar extremes, who both are intent on only quoting the half of scripture they are comfortable with. Put the two half's together and you have the whole message.
One half is all about self achievement to attain heaven, the other half say you don't have to do anything, sit back, relax it will all be done for you.
grace with responsibility is the term I like to use.
I myself can testify you can fully accept grace but the way is not always a piece of cake. Jesus said we will suffer trials, temptations and persecutions.
The christian has tough choices to make at times. And when they make the wrong choices this can have a catastrophic effect on their life.
The Apostle Paul preached grace with responsibility. He warned against making the wrong choices, and following after the flesh. But at the same time I would say he was the greatest preacher of grace this world has ever seen
One half is all about self achievement to attain heaven, the other half say you don't have to do anything, sit back, relax it will all be done for you.
grace with responsibility is the term I like to use.
I myself can testify you can fully accept grace but the way is not always a piece of cake. Jesus said we will suffer trials, temptations and persecutions.
The christian has tough choices to make at times. And when they make the wrong choices this can have a catastrophic effect on their life.
The Apostle Paul preached grace with responsibility. He warned against making the wrong choices, and following after the flesh. But at the same time I would say he was the greatest preacher of grace this world has ever seen
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for new believers, Yes, I think this is true,, Even for mature believers in some areas, This is true (we all have besotting sin issues)
but as a child of God matures, Most of his work is done naturally, he does not even think about it, by nature he does the will of God. He no longer has to fight the flesh in certain areas, because the flesh has been killed..
but as a child of God matures, Most of his work is done naturally, he does not even think about it, by nature he does the will of God. He no longer has to fight the flesh in certain areas, because the flesh has been killed..
I think Jesus was the greatest grace teacher as well as the greatest law preacher.
Jesus gave the law of Moses 2.0 on steroids to those that thought they could live by the law of Moses for life and righteousness and thus expose their need for a Savior.
Jesus also gave grace to those that knew they needed a Savior and to them He gave pure grace with it's empowerments to live by Him alone.
People often say to those that speak of the grace of God and that they are not under the law of Moses anymore that they believe they are without "laws" now.
We do have laws in the New Covenant. They are exciting laws that bring life and wholeness to us all - because these are all Christ Himself in us.
There is no greater revelation than to know Him and the Father and to plumb the depths of their love and grace towards us which Paul says in Eph. 2:7 - the Father will be doing for all the ages to come to us.
Ephesians 2:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
Jesus fulfilled the law. The law was a mere shadow of the real thing which was Jesus.
Read the law to see Jesus in it and to know that Jesus did that for us and His life in us now leads us in all things. Those who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God.
We now live by:
1) The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. ( Romans 8:2 )
2) The law of love ( Romans 13:10 James 2:8 )
3) The law of faith ( Romans 3:27 and the law of Moses is NOT of faith - Gal. 3:12 )
4) The law of liberty ( James 1:25 )
5) The law of Christ - which is Christ Himself in us. ( Gal. 6:2 )
We can trust the Holy Spirit in us to lead us in all affairs of life. We don't go back to the law of Moses that were a shadow of the real thing which is Christ in us.. Jesus is more then enough.
Yes...we glory in the laws that we have in the New Covenant because they are all Christ Himself living in and through us. ( Gal.2:20 and Col. 3:3 )
Get this wrong and we create a religion which really nullifies the grace of God from operating in our lives like it was meant to.
Galatians 5:22-23 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
[SUP]23 [/SUP] gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
Jesus gave the law of Moses 2.0 on steroids to those that thought they could live by the law of Moses for life and righteousness and thus expose their need for a Savior.
Jesus also gave grace to those that knew they needed a Savior and to them He gave pure grace with it's empowerments to live by Him alone.
People often say to those that speak of the grace of God and that they are not under the law of Moses anymore that they believe they are without "laws" now.
We do have laws in the New Covenant. They are exciting laws that bring life and wholeness to us all - because these are all Christ Himself in us.
There is no greater revelation than to know Him and the Father and to plumb the depths of their love and grace towards us which Paul says in Eph. 2:7 - the Father will be doing for all the ages to come to us.
Ephesians 2:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
Jesus fulfilled the law. The law was a mere shadow of the real thing which was Jesus.
Read the law to see Jesus in it and to know that Jesus did that for us and His life in us now leads us in all things. Those who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God.
We now live by:
1) The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. ( Romans 8:2 )
2) The law of love ( Romans 13:10 James 2:8 )
3) The law of faith ( Romans 3:27 and the law of Moses is NOT of faith - Gal. 3:12 )
4) The law of liberty ( James 1:25 )
5) The law of Christ - which is Christ Himself in us. ( Gal. 6:2 )
We can trust the Holy Spirit in us to lead us in all affairs of life. We don't go back to the law of Moses that were a shadow of the real thing which is Christ in us.. Jesus is more then enough.
Yes...we glory in the laws that we have in the New Covenant because they are all Christ Himself living in and through us. ( Gal.2:20 and Col. 3:3 )
Get this wrong and we create a religion which really nullifies the grace of God from operating in our lives like it was meant to.
Galatians 5:22-23 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
[SUP]23 [/SUP] gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
Let us be really honest here. The agenda here is to deny the sermon on the mount and
much of the revelation of Christ for a walk without obeying the Law of Christ.
Now if you hide your true beliefs, and soft peddle the struggle of the walk of reconciliation
of the heart of the believer, you end up with language of lenses.
You only need a lens to change the meaning to the "secret" understanding or "mystery" of
grace means you can continuing sinning and you are forgiven as you sin.
This has never been the gospel and would be regarded by Paul and the apostles as heresy.
I understand the tension this is trying to resolve but the answer to legalism is not ignoring
sin but talking about what love is and how you love people and why in every situation you
enter.
much of the revelation of Christ for a walk without obeying the Law of Christ.
Now if you hide your true beliefs, and soft peddle the struggle of the walk of reconciliation
of the heart of the believer, you end up with language of lenses.
You only need a lens to change the meaning to the "secret" understanding or "mystery" of
grace means you can continuing sinning and you are forgiven as you sin.
This has never been the gospel and would be regarded by Paul and the apostles as heresy.
I understand the tension this is trying to resolve but the answer to legalism is not ignoring
sin but talking about what love is and how you love people and why in every situation you
enter.
