Is porn cheating?

[jennaleanne]

I was never implying that the devil makes us do anything.. 1 peter 5 v 8 Tells us clearly that he roams around like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.. We have to be vigilant and sober of mind. Temptation dosent come from God it comes from satan. Granted.. No temptation has seized us than that which is common to man, and through every temptation God will provide a way out. If we submit to satan we give him him legal rights into our life. James 4 v 7 Submit to God, Resist satan and he will flee. Galatians 5v16 Walk in the spirit and you shall not gratify the lusts of the flesh. Bless you

 

[MarcR]

Porn should never be considered ok to watch whether in marriage or out... The word "porn" actually comes from the greek word "pornea" meaning fornication (sexual sin) So without knowing it porn stars or anybody who indulges in porn are actually calling themselves fornicators.. Its a demonic act that is inviting satan into our souls.. Before you know it you are addicted to it, You have a spirit of lust operating in your life and you cannot control the desire to masturbate or want to have sex.. The bible tells us not to give the devil a foot hold. Porn is opening a huge WELCOME SATAN door.. If your married this I believe this is just as bad as commiting adultery, It can wreck your marriage and destroy your life. I pray that you would receive this message in love. We will know the truth and the truth will set us free. Bless you all

I totally agree. However, some people use the word less strictly; and include all depiction of nudity as pornography.

I do not advocate believers displaying themselves; but I do not believe nudity is inherently sinful. I see real beauty in the form of the human body and consider it a valid subject for the graphic arts including photography.

I believe that if seeing a woman unclothed causes a person to lust or be unfaithful they should definitely avoid looking at nude people or photographs.

If seeing unrelated people undressed were inherently sinful, All aspects of the medical profession would be closed to
believers; and believers would be sinning if they changed diapers on an unrelated child in their care.

Several years ago my wife and I had a close friend with CP, who was almost like a daughter to us.

On numerous occasions, I helped her use the toilet or to bathe with my wife's approval and occasional active participation. I never thought about her in a sexual way. I helped her because she needed help and I was available and she trusted me not to abuse the situation.

 

[jennaleanne]

I think we have to be sensitive to the individual.. If somebody still struggles with lust I wouldn't advise them to go to a beach full of half naked men/women... The bible does say though that it is for freedom that Christ has set us free.. He dosent say he has come to give us freedom in some areas and keep us in bondage in others.. I believe in him we have total freedom.. We are told to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ.. This is a process that involves renewing our minds. It most definetly dosent happen over night. I firmly believe that we can come to a place where if for example u stay away from the beach because your tempted to lust after women then 1 day it will not be a problem at all.. It comes down to where you are at in your walk. Wisdom speaks ! Also.. If your right hand causes you to sin... chop it off (ouch!)
Im not sure really how I feel about nude art. Personally it isn't for me. I believe that our bodies are for our spouses eyes only.
That's just me though.

Bless you my dear brother

 

[atwhatcost]

I was never implying that the devil makes us do anything.. 1 peter 5 v 8 Tells us clearly that he roams around like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.. We have to be vigilant and sober of mind. Temptation dosent come from God it comes from satan. Granted.. No temptation has seized us than that which is common to man, and through every temptation God will provide a way out. If we submit to satan we give him him legal rights into our life. James 4 v 7 Submit to God, Resist satan and he will flee. Galatians 5v16 Walk in the spirit and you shall not gratify the lusts of the flesh. Bless you

Okay, I'm taking this back to the comedy show Frazier to explain why I have a thing against what satan does or doesn't do.

Frazier never learned to ride a bike because every time he tried, he'd run into a mailbox.

What strikes me funny about that is what we focus on is where we'll end up going. Had he focused on riding a bike, he wouldn't have run into the mailbox each time, but he focused on the mailbox.

Same thing we do. If we keep focusing on satan, we run into him. If we focus on Jesus, we run into him.

Maybe it's true. Maybe we do sin sometimes because of satan. I tend to think most of my sin is my own doing, so all I have to do is keep my focus on Jesus and not worry about where the sin comes from.

Oh, BTW, in keeping with the humor of Frazier, in the last scene on that episode he ran into a mailbox on the bike. Lesson learned: Stop running into mailboxes. lol

 

[atwhatcost]

I totally agree. However, some people use the word less strictly; and include all depiction of nudity as pornography.

I do not advocate believers displaying themselves; but I do not believe nudity is inherently sinful. I see real beauty in the form of the human body and consider it a valid subject for the graphic arts including photography.

I believe that if seeing a woman unclothed causes a person to lust or be unfaithful they should definitely avoid looking at nude people or photographs.

If seeing unrelated people undressed were inherently sinful, All aspects of the medical profession would be closed to
believers; and believers would be sinning if they changed diapers on an unrelated child in their care.

Several years ago my wife and I had a close friend with CP, who was almost like a daughter to us.

On numerous occasions, I helped her use the toilet or to bathe with my wife's approval and occasional active participation. I never thought about her in a sexual way. I helped her because she needed help and I was available and she trusted me not to abuse the situation.

We live near Brandywine, PA -- home to the Wyeth family. We went to their museum. Man! I want to paint like they did when I grow up. lol

Andrew Wyeth had a series of paintings of a women he knew - Helga. One of the paintings he made was Helga lying on a bed nude. Weird thing happened when I looked at it. I both admired everything I recognized as sheer genius with his abilities and the utter beauty of the feminine form, but I was so embarrassed looking at it too. I am 100% heterosexual. Women just don't interest me in that kind of way. But it was very sensual, I certainly wasn't lusting, but it felt too private to be seen in public.

I wish there was a way to only have that discomfort if I was sinning. It would make life easier... oh, and warmer. lol

 

[CCHL]

I've been led by God to say this.. When I was really young I became addicted to pornography. It started with pictures of photoshopped women and then it developed to later worse things. It changed my sexual desires and led me into a very dark place. Society teaches us through pornography (which is everywhere these days even in places we'd least expect). We often don't realize that we normalize it into our lives and how much it takes control. The mind eventually is wired to a point where we have to have it in our everyday lives even if we don't notice it. I have looked into this quite a bit and have come to the consensus that porn is just as bad as physical cheating. "Why?" you ask well let me give you some basic science. When we watch porn it is for pleasure and it releases chemicals in the brain closely associated with sex. Your heart is set on receiving this pleasure not from your partner. No that would be an act of love and not for pure enjoyment of the body. But it is just so your body and mind may feel good for a short time when those benefits can be received with your partner and have longer lasting effects.

 

[atwhatcost]

I've been led by God to say this.. When I was really young I became addicted to pornography. It started with pictures of photoshopped women and then it developed to later worse things. It changed my sexual desires and led me into a very dark place. Society teaches us through pornography (which is everywhere these days even in places we'd least expect). We often don't realize that we normalize it into our lives and how much it takes control. The mind eventually is wired to a point where we have to have it in our everyday lives even if we don't notice it. I have looked into this quite a bit and have come to the consensus that porn is just as bad as physical cheating. "Why?" you ask well let me give you some basic science. When we watch porn it is for pleasure and it releases chemicals in the brain closely associated with sex. Your heart is set on receiving this pleasure not from your partner. No that would be an act of love and not for pure enjoyment of the body. But it is just so your body and mind may feel good for a short time when those benefits can be received with your partner and have longer lasting effects.

I have the addictive personality. I am incapable of removing that part of me, but I've learned to deal with it in better ways. Back in the olden days, when I was young, my additive personality led me right smack into drugs. Oddly, the drugs caused me no harm. The stupid decisions made when my mind wasn't sober did. (Praise God they caused no harm to my body!)

So, nowadays, I still use that addictive side. I simply get addicted to better-things -- studying the Bible, gardening, writing a novel, coming on here, and then watch out that none of that becomes out of proportion addictive. (I am beginning to think coming on here qualifies as out-of-proportion-addictive, so I'll have to do something about that soon.)

But one other thing I know about addictive personalities -- not everyone has them. Just like some folks can drink a beer or two or a glass of wine with understanding that that is enough, some others have no understanding of "that is enough." I envy those who don't have addictive personalities, but I don't assume everyone has it simply because I do. It's just good to know which side of the coin you land on.

(I also wonder if nonaddictive personalities have the heart to see writing a novel all the way through, so maybe there are advantages to being an addictive personality sometimes.)

 

[Jesus4ever]

Well, one thing is clear: Porn is pure lust, which is a sin. The more I think about this topic, the more I believe that porn is a form of cheating. And personally, I feel sorry for those women and men acting, having sex...! It´s sad, really sad. Now, the internet is fulled of regular people/couples filming themselves having sex, and exposing it. That´s even worse, in my opinion.

Although it´s not physical cheating with a person, is clearly a dishonor to God and then to the spouse.

 

[Sabilar]

It's not really cheating in my opinion, because that would imply that the mere act of thinking about "other" women as potentially attractive could be defined as cheating as well? So no, IMO it's only cheating if you are "cheating"

 

[jenniferand2]

Let me sum this up for you a bit..... In the eyes of a woman any form of cheating to me is talking with a woman via text email in person etc.... and trying to see how far around the bases you can go is cheating. Attempting to try to get with another woman is cheating... Thinking about being with another woman is cheating.... Watching porn and drooling over other woman is cheating and distasteful. Now to be sleeping and one night you have a dream of an ex gf or something and you have no control over it welll then you can't help that. I am a strong believer if you are thinking about or wanting to wonder away from your marriage then you either stop and get straight or you leave the relationship until you can figure out what you want... No woman or man for that matter should be stuck with a spouse who is thinking about infidelity. In my opinion I much rather have someone tell me the truth and say hey I need to step back because of >>>>> then to try to think they can get sly on the down low.... Nothing ever good comes out of the down low and almost always you will be caught eventually.... FYI even innocent flirting can destroy trust in a relationship...... My trust was destroyed because my hubby supposedly was just innocently flirting with some woman....NOT A GOOD IDEA>>>

 

[Willie-T]

It's not really cheating in my opinion, because that would imply that the mere act of thinking about "other" women as potentially attractive could be defined as cheating as well? So no, IMO it's only cheating if you are "cheating"

That's pitifully weak and sad.

 

[Enow]

This is a question on the ladies board, but I'd like to hear from all sides.

And, assuming most go with it is, then how about when your mind wanders when intimate? Is that cheating too?

And, assuming that is too, is there anyone who doesn't cheat?

Proverbs 7:26Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?

Matthew 5:[SUP]27 [/SUP]Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:[SUP]28 [/SUP]But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

2 Peter 2:[SUP]14 [/SUP]Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:...18For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

Romans 13:[SUP]11 [/SUP]And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.[SUP]12 [/SUP]The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.[SUP]13 [/SUP]Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.[SUP]14 [/SUP]But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

1 John 2:[SUP]15 [/SUP]Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.[SUP]16 [/SUP]For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.[SUP]17 [/SUP]And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

2 Timothy 2:[SUP]22 [/SUP]Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

So look to Jesus Christ to help you put away that which feeds the lust to think on other things that are good.

2 Timothy 4:[SUP]18 [/SUP]And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

 

[CS1]

Porn is the number one issue with Pastors and church leaders today. This idea that it is not sinful to engage in such things and have to present the word of God without condemnation has to be very hard to do. There is nothing godly about porn it is a false narrative to cause one to create a false perception of sexual relationship that will leave the man in bondage and addiction. Porn is not what jesus would do,

 

[presidente]

This is a question on the ladies board, but I'd like to hear from all sides.

And, assuming most go with it is, then how about when your mind wanders when intimate? Is that cheating too?

And, assuming that is too, is there anyone who doesn't cheat?

What is 'cheating'? I saw a discussion on a secular forum where someone was arguing that 'open marriages' were not cheating because they both agreed to it. 'Cheating' isn't the issue.

'Porn' isn't a sin. Looking at a woman to lust after her is a sin. Porn is a tool people use to sin. Whether one's wife considers it 'cheating' is not the issue. He who looks at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her in his heart. Your wife can't see your heart, but God can. This is a sin against God.

 

[CS1]

What is 'cheating'? I saw a discussion on a secular forum where someone was arguing that 'open marriages' were not cheating because they both agreed to it. 'Cheating' isn't the issue.

'Porn' isn't a sin. Looking at a woman to lust after her is a sin. Porn is a tool people use to sin. Whether one's wife considers it 'cheating' is not the issue. He who looks at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her in his heart. Your wife can't see your heart, but God can. This is a sin against God.

porn is sin, it is the perversion and disrespect to women created for men to self gratify themselves because they lack self-control. You do not find the word porn in the Bible but lust of the flesh you do and other Greek words which are porn. If you are married and lust after do a study on the words " lust after". it is not a sin to be tempted . Jesus was tempted in all point AS <MAN yet without SIN.

 

[presidente]

porn is sin, it is the perversion and disrespect to women created for men to self gratify themselves because they lack self-control. You do not find the word porn in the Bible but lust of the flesh you do and other Greek words which are porn. If you are married and lust after do a study on the words " lust after". it is not a sin to be tempted . Jesus was tempted in all point AS <MAN yet without SIN.

Suppose a woman was recording a video with her computer, forgot to turn off 'record', took a shower, and came out naked in front of the camera. I don't think anyone sinned. The woman didn't sin. The computer did not sin. The video on the computer is not sin. It's a video.

If it falls into the wrong hands, it becomes porn.

Whiskey isn't a sin. Getting drunk is a sin. A rock isn't a sin. Hitting someone over the head with a rock and murdering him is a sin.

Porn isn't a sin. Making porn can, and probably usually is, sinful. Watching porn to lust after someone is sinful.

 

[CS1]

Suppose a woman was recording a video with her computer, forgot to turn off 'record', took a shower, and came out naked in front of the camera. I don't think anyone sinned. The woman didn't sin. The computer did not sin. The video on the computer is not sin. It's a video.

If it falls into the wrong hands, it becomes porn.

Whiskey isn't a sin. Getting drunk is a sin. A rock isn't a sin. Hitting someone over the head with a rock and murdering him is a sin.

Porn isn't a sin. Making porn can, and probably usually is, sinful. Watching porn to lust after someone is sinful.

your example would not be porn either. the women intentions were not sinful I'm . All though the suggestion to believe that would happen seems naive. Porn is not a rock, porn is not whisky . Porn is short for [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]pornography

the understanding of this word is :[FONT=&quot]the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement , [/FONT][FONT=&quot]the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction [/FONT][FONT=&quot]<the pornography of violence> if you leave Pornography on the ground like a rock and a person sees the rock and the pornography and becomes sexual excited by the rock you would have a point. [/FONT]

 

[samuel23]

We have came quite a distance since the girl danced before King Herod and also the old West days when you had dance hall girls. Photography has enabled the average man to see multitudes of images of beautiful women in the most revealing poses imaginable. Besides that, most all news people now are beautiful women. Kind of glad I am old now and it does not effect me(he,he). The ole Devil has set the stage for sexual chaos.

 

[presidente]

CS1 In my example, if the woman accidentally leaves the camera on, it is not porn by your definition. When some hackers put a virus on her machine, and distribute it for erotic purposes, then it becomes porn.

The porn is still not sin. In this case, distributing it, and in most cases filming it is sinful. Viewing pornography to lust after someone is sin.

Then you have people insisting "It's art" or "I just read it for the articles."

 

[ROSSELLA]

This is a question on the ladies board, but I'd like to hear from all sides.

And, assuming most go with it is, then how about when your mind wanders when intimate? Is that cheating too?

And, assuming that is too, is there anyone who doesn't cheat?

Merely seeing porn isn't cheating, but doing so for sexual pleasure is. I don't think most people view porn for anything other than lustful reasons, and even those that might do so for research will most likely experience lust as a result of doing so, so it's best just to stay away.

It depends. Every now and then a thought might flash into someone's mind and those thoughts may be sexual in nature. But it's how one responds to those thoughts that is sinful or not sinful. If an image of someone other than one's spouse flashes into someone's mind while one is having sex with one's spouse, one should banish it immediately. If one doesn't, than one is yielding to temptation and that is cheating.

Maybe asexuals don't cheat. Jesus said, "You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. " Matthew 5: 27-28.
I think it would be a rare man or woman who never lusted after anyone or thing.

That being said, although all sin is terrible, actually sleeping with someone who is not one's spouse has much more severe earthly consequences.