Why dio Christians belive that Jesus had to die?

[PrynceNY]

“You did not ask God for life either, but He gave it to you.” We both agree; we can’t agree about the rest of your post. Why can’t Jesus accept good people being honest and questioning him and the New Testament? Why can’t Jesus be mature enough to accept those that question?

You think asking questions bothers Christ? He loves the humble who seek wisdom. Many people asked God questions that's not the issue. The issue is when people reject the fact that Christ gave up his life for them & expect to enter his kingdom.

 

[Baruch]

He is not the Messiah and don’t forget who killed him. You Christians are strange, you are happy that he died on the cross but you are upset at the people that supposedly wanted him dead and you ignore the Romans that physically killed him. You also ignore the roman’s control over Judea, which include crucifying people.

 

[Magenta]

“You did not ask God for life either, but He gave it to you.” We both agree; we can’t agree about the rest of your post. Why can’t Jesus accept good people being honest and questioning him and the New Testament? Why can’t Jesus be mature enough to accept those that question?

You then disagree with:

The Israelis were always turning away from God and His plan.
It is no different today than it was thousands of years ago

That is an awfully odd thing for you to disagree with. The Bible is full of examples
of people rejecting God's plan and being and/or doing evil in the sight of the Lord
etc etc etc. You might as well say you do not believe any of the Scriptures.

 

[Baruch]

You are too funny to respond

 

[Desertsrose]

I don’t believe that the story is true because Jesus was Jewish and therefore he knew the important of the holiday and the pilgrimage to Jerusalem. You may want to know more about it so please read about the Passover celebration with an open mind. By saying that the story isn’t true I actually show Jesus lots more respect than Christians do. The sad part about the story is that Christians are happy about his action and glorifying it.
What did he use the whip for just to threaten people? Why isn’t he protesting the Roman Occupation of Judea? Why isn’t he protesting the Roman practice of crucifying people, throwing people to the lions etc.

He came as the Jewish Messiah, as the suffering servant. He showed the way of righteousness to turn the nation of Israel back to their God in obedience and He came to die for them as the Passover Lamb who takes away the sins of the world.

 

[Ariel82]

He is not the Messiah and don’t forget who killed him. You Christians are strange, you are happy that he died on the cross but you are upset at the people that supposedly wanted him dead and you ignore the Romans that physically killed him. You also ignore the roman’s control over Judea, which include crucifying people.

No we are not "happy he died on the cross". Why would anyone be happy to see the son of God suffer?

We are happy that God's salvation plan was revealed.

You admit that a Messiah is spoken of in the Tanukh.

Perhaps an examination of those scriptures will reveal how Jesus is the true Messiah?

Anyway I am off to bed.

 

[Baruch]

You are wrong about God’s plan. The Bible (Old Testament) is full of people breaking the laws and suffering the consequence.
I am slight confuse, what example are you talking about?

 

[Magenta]

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[TD]Scripture[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Prophecy[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Fulfillment[/TD]
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[TABLE="width: 95%, align: center"]
[TR]
[TD]1. Gen. 3:15[/TD]
[TD]Seed of a woman (virgin birth)[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Galatians 4:4-5, Matthew 1:18[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2. Gen. 3:15[/TD]
[TD]He will bruise Satan's head[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Hebrews 2:14, 1John 3:8[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]3. Gen. 3:15[/TD]
[TD]Christ's heel would be bruised with nails on the cross[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 27:35, Luke 24:39-40[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]4. Gen. 5:24[/TD]
[TD]The bodily ascension to heaven illustrated[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Mark 16:19, Rev. 12:5[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]5. Gen. 9:26, 27[/TD]
[TD]The God of Shem will be the Son of Shem[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 3:23-36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6. Gen. 12:3[/TD]
[TD]Seed of Abraham will bless all nations[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Galatians 3:8, Acts 3:25, 26[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7. Gen. 12:7[/TD]
[TD]The Promise made to Abraham's Seed[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Galatians 3:16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8. Gen. 14:18[/TD]
[TD]A priest after the order of Melchizedek[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Hebrews 6:20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9. Gen. 14:18[/TD]
[TD]King of Peace and Righteousness[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Hebrews 7:2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10. Gen. 14:18[/TD]
[TD]The Last Supper foreshadowed[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 26:26-29[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]11. Gen. 17:19[/TD]
[TD]Seed of Isaac (Gen. 21:12)[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Romans 9:7[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]12. Gen. 22:8[/TD]
[TD]The Lamb of God promised[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 1:29[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]13. Gen. 22:18[/TD]
[TD]As Isaac's seed, will bless all nations[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Galatians 3:16[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]14. Gen. 26:2-5[/TD]
[TD]The Seed of Isaac promised as the Redeemer[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Hebrews 11:18[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15. Gen. 28:12[/TD]
[TD]The Bridge to heaven[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 1:51[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]16. Gen. 28:14[/TD]
[TD]The Seed of Jacob[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 3:34[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]17. Gen. 49:10[/TD]
[TD]The time of His coming[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 2:1-7; Galatians 4:4[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]18. Gen. 49:10[/TD]
[TD]The Seed of Judah[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 3:33[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]19. Gen. 49:10[/TD]
[TD]Called Shiloh or One Sent[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 17:3[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]20. Gen. 49:10[/TD]
[TD]Messiah to come before Judah lost identity[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 11:47-52[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]21. Gen. 49:10[/TD]
[TD]Unto Him shall the obedience of the people be[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 10:16[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]22. Ex. 3:13-15[/TD]
[TD]The Great "I AM"[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 4:26; 8:58[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]23. Ex. 12:3-6[/TD]
[TD]The Lamb presented to Israel 4 days before Passover[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Mark 11:7-11[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]24. Ex. 12:5[/TD]
[TD]A Lamb without blemish[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Hebrews 9:14; 1Peter 1:19[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]25. Ex. 12:13[/TD]
[TD]The blood of the Lamb saves from wrath[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Romans 5:8[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]26. Ex. 12:21-27[/TD]
[TD]Christ is our Passover[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1Corinthians 5:7[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]27. Ex. 12:46[/TD]
[TD]Not a bone of the Lamb to be broken[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 19:31-36[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]28. Ex. 15:2[/TD]
[TD]His exaltation predicted as Yeshua[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Acts 7:55, 56[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]29. Ex. 15:11[/TD]
[TD]His Character-Holiness[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 1:35; Acts 4:27[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]30. Ex. 17:6[/TD]
[TD]The Spiritual Rock of Israel[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1Corinthians 10:4[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]31. Ex. 33:19[/TD]
[TD]His Character-Merciful[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 1:72[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]32. Lev. 1:2-9[/TD]
[TD]His sacrifice a sweet smelling savor unto God[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ephesians 5:2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]33. Lev. 14:11[/TD]
[TD]The leper cleansed-Sign to priesthood[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 5:12-14; Acts 6:7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]34. Lev. 16:15-17[/TD]
[TD]Prefigures Christ's once-for-all death[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Hebrews 9:7-14[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]35. Lev. 16:27[/TD]
[TD]Suffering outside the Camp[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 27:33; Heb. 13:11, 12[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]36. Lev. 17:11[/TD]
[TD]The Blood-the life of the flesh[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 26:28; Mark 10:45[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]37. Lev. 17:11[/TD]
[TD]It is the blood that makes atonement[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Rom. 3:23-24;1John 1:7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]38. Lev. 23:36-37[/TD]
[TD]The Drink-offering: "If any man thirst"[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 7:37[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]39. Num. 9:12[/TD]
[TD]Not a bone of Him broken[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 19:31-36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]40. Num. 21:9[/TD]
[TD]The serpent on a pole-Christ lifted up[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 3:14-18;12:32[/TD]
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[Magenta]

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[TD]41. Num. 24:17[/TD]
[TD]Time: "I shall see him, but not now."[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 1:14; Galatians 4:4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]42. Deut. 18:15[/TD]
[TD]"This is of a truth that prophet."[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 6:14[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]43. Deut. 18:15-16[/TD]
[TD]"Had ye believed Moses, ye would believe me."[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 5:45-47[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]44. Deut. 18:18[/TD]
[TD]Sent by the Father to speak His word[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 8:28, 29[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]45. Deut. 18:19[/TD]
[TD]Whoever will not hear must bear his sin[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Acts 3:22-23[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]46. Deut. 21:23[/TD]
[TD]Cursed is he that hangs on a tree[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Galatians 3:10-13[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]47. Joshua 5:14-15[/TD]
[TD]The Captain of our salvation[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Hebrews 2:10[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]48. Ruth 4:4-10[/TD]
[TD]Christ, our kinsman, has redeemed us[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ephesians 1:3-7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]49. 1 Sam. 2:35[/TD]
[TD]A Faithful Priest[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Heb. 2:17; 3:1-3, 6; 7:24-25[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]50. 1 Sam. 2:10[/TD]
[TD]Shall be an anointed King to the Lord[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Mt. 28:18, John 12:15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]51. 2 Sam. 7:12[/TD]
[TD]David's Seed[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 1:1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]52. 2 Sam. 7:13[/TD]
[TD]His Kingdom is everlasting[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2Peter 1:11[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]53. 2 Sam. 7:14[/TD]
[TD]The Son of God[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 1:32, Romans 1:3-4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]54. 2 Sam. 7:16[/TD]
[TD]David's house established forever[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 3:31; Rev. 22:16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]55. 2 Ki. 2:11[/TD]
[TD]The bodily ascension to heaven illustrated[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 24:51[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]56. 1 Chr. 17:11[/TD]
[TD]David's Seed[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 1:1; 9:27[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]57. 1 Chr. 17:12-13[/TD]
[TD]To reign on David's throne forever[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 1:32, 33[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]58. 1 Chr. 17:13[/TD]
[TD]"I will be His Father, He...my Son."[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Hebrews 1:5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]59. Job 9:32-33[/TD]
[TD]Mediator between man and God[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1 Timothy 2:5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]60. Job 19:23-27[/TD]
[TD]The Resurrection predicted[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 5:24-29[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]61. Psa. 2:1-3[/TD]
[TD]The enmity of kings foreordained[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Acts 4:25-28[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]62. Psa. 2:2[/TD]
[TD]To own the title, Anointed (Christ)[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 1:41, Acts 2:36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]63. Psa. 2:6[/TD]
[TD]His Character-Holiness[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 8:46; Revelation 3:7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]64. Psa. 2:6[/TD]
[TD]To own the title King[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 2:2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]65. Psa. 2:7[/TD]
[TD]Declared the Beloved Son[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 3:17, Romans 1:4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]66. Psa. 2:7, 8[/TD]
[TD]The Crucifixion and Resurrection intimated[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Acts 13:29-33[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]67. Psa. 2:8, 9[/TD]
[TD]Rule the nations with a rod of iron[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Rev. 2:27; 12:5; 19:15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]68. Psa. 2:12[/TD]
[TD]Life comes through faith in Him[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 20:31[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]69. Psa. 8:2[/TD]
[TD]The mouths of babes perfect His praise[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 21:16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]70. Psa. 8:5, 6[/TD]
[TD]His humiliation and exaltation[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Hebrews 2:5-9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]71. Psa. 9:7-10[/TD]
[TD]Judge the world in righteousness[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Acts 17:31[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]72. Psa. 16:10[/TD]
[TD]Was not to see corruption[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Acts 2:31; 13:35[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]73. Psa. 16:9-11[/TD]
[TD]Was to arise from the dead[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 20:9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]74. Psa. 17:15[/TD]
[TD]The resurrection predicted[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 24:6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]75. Psa. 18:2-3[/TD]
[TD]The horn of salvation[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 1:69-71[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]76. Psa. 22:1[/TD]
[TD]Forsaken because of sins of others[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2 Corinthians 5:21[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]77. Psa. 22:1[/TD]
[TD]"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 27:46[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]78. Psa. 22:2[/TD]
[TD]Darkness upon Calvary for three hours[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 27:45[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]79. Psa. 22:7[/TD]
[TD]They shoot out the lip and shake the head[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 27:39-44[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]80. Psa. 22:8[/TD]
[TD]"He trusted in God, let Him deliver Him"[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 27:43[/TD]
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[JosephsDreams]

You are wrong about God’s plan. The Bible (Old Testament) is full of people breaking the laws and suffering the consequence.
I am slight confuse, what example are you talking about?

Well you said it, your confused.

 

[JosephsDreams]

What Magenta posted, does that mean anything to you? Still confused?

 

[Magenta]

[TABLE="width: 95%, align: center"]
[TR]
[TD]81. Psa. 22:9-10[/TD]
[TD]Born the Saviour[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 2:7[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]82. Psa. 22:12-13[/TD]
[TD]They seek His death[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 19:6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]83. Psa. 22:14[/TD]
[TD]His blood poured out when they pierced His side[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 19:34[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]84. Psa. 22:14, 15[/TD]
[TD]Suffered agony on Calvary[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Mark 15:34-37[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]85. Psa. 22:15[/TD]
[TD]He thirsted[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 19:28[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]86. Psa. 22:16[/TD]
[TD]They pierced His hands and His feet[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 19:34, 37; 20:27[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]87. Psa. 22:17, 18[/TD]
[TD]Stripped Him before the stares of men[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 23:34, 35[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]88. Psa. 22:18[/TD]
[TD]They parted His garments[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 19:23, 24[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]89. Psa. 22:20, 21[/TD]
[TD]He committed Himself to God[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 23:46[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]90. Psa. 22:20, 21[/TD]
[TD]Satanic power bruising the Redeemer's heel[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Hebrews 2:14[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]91. Psa. 22:22[/TD]
[TD]His Resurrection declared[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 20:17[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]92. Psa. 22:27-28[/TD]
[TD]He shall be the governor of the nations[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Colossians 1:16[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]93. Psa. 22:31[/TD]
[TD]"It is finished"[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 19:30, Heb. 10:10, 12, 14, 18[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]94. Psa. 23:1[/TD]
[TD]"I am the Good Shepherd"[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 10:11, 1Peter 2:25[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]95. Psa. 24:3[/TD]
[TD]His exaltation predicted[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Acts 1:11; Philippians 2:9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]96. Psa. 30:3[/TD]
[TD]His resurrection predicted[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Acts 2:32[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]97. Psa. 31:5[/TD]
[TD]"Into thy hands I commit my spirit"[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 23:46[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]98. Psa. 31:11[/TD]
[TD]His acquaintances fled from Him[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Mark 14:50[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]99. Psa. 31:13[/TD]
[TD]They took counsel to put Him to death[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Mt. 27:1, John 11:53[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]100. Psa. 31:14, 15[/TD]
[TD]"He trusted in God, let Him deliver him"[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 27:43[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]101. Psa. 34:20[/TD]
[TD]Not a bone of Him broken[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 19:31-36[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]102. Psa. 35:11[/TD]
[TD]False witnesses rose up against Him[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 26:59[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]103. Psa. 35:19[/TD]
[TD]He was hated without a cause[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 15:25[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]104. Psa. 38:11[/TD]
[TD]His friends stood afar off[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 23:49[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]105. Psa. 38:12[/TD]
[TD]Enemies try to entangle Him by craft[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Mark 14:1, Mt. 22:15[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]106. Psa. 38:12-13[/TD]
[TD]Silent before His accusers[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 27:12-14[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]107. Psa. 38:20[/TD]
[TD]He went about doing good[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Acts 10:38[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]108. Psa. 40:2-5[/TD]
[TD]The joy of His resurrection predicted[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 20:20[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]109. Psa. 40:6-8[/TD]
[TD]His delight-the will of the Father[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 4:34, Heb. 10:5-10[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]110. Psa. 40:9[/TD]
[TD]He was to preach the Righteousness in Israel[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 4:17[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]111. Psa. 40:14[/TD]
[TD]Confronted by adversaries in the Garden[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 18:4-6[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]112. Psa. 41:9[/TD]
[TD]Betrayed by a familiar friend[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 13:18[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]113. Psa. 45:2[/TD]
[TD]Words of Grace come from His lips[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 1:17, Luke 4:22[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]114. Psa. 45:6[/TD]
[TD]To own the title, God or Elohim[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Hebrews 1:8[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]115. Psa. 45:7[/TD]
[TD]A special anointing by the Holy Spirit[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Mt. 3:16; Heb. 1:9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]116. Psa. 45:7, 8[/TD]
[TD]Called the Christ (Messiah or Anointed)[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 2:11[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]117. Psa. 45:17[/TD]
[TD]His name remembered forever[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ephesians 1:20-21, Heb. 1:8[/TD]
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[TD]118. Psa. 55:12-14[/TD]
[TD]Betrayed by a friend, not an enemy[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 13:18[/TD]
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[TD]119. Psa. 55:15[/TD]
[TD]Unrepentant death of the Betrayer[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 27:3-5; Acts 1:16-19[/TD]
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[TD]120. Psa. 68:18[/TD]
[TD]To give gifts to men[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ephesians 4:7-16[/TD]
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[Baruch]

The Messiah was spoken of in the Tanach but Jesus wasn't the Messiah or the son of god. of course you are happy that he died how else your sins will be forgiven? Don't ignore the rest of my post.

 

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[TD]121. Psa. 68:18[/TD]
[TD]Ascended into Heaven[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 24:51[/TD]
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[TD]122. Psa. 69:4[/TD]
[TD]Hated without a cause[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 15:25[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]123. Psa. 69:8[/TD]
[TD]A stranger to own brethren[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 1:11, 7:5[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]124. Psa. 69:9[/TD]
[TD]Zealous for the Lord's House[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 2:17[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]125. Psa. 69:14-20[/TD]
[TD]Messiah's anguish of soul before crucifixion[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 26:36-45[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]126. Psa. 69:20[/TD]
[TD]"My soul is exceeding sorrowful."[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 26:38[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]127. Psa. 69:21[/TD]
[TD]Given vinegar in thirst[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 27:34[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]128. Psa. 69:26[/TD]
[TD]The Saviour given and smitten by God[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 17:4; 18:11[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]129. Psa. 72:10, 11[/TD]
[TD]Great persons were to visit Him[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 2:1-11[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]130. Psa. 72:16[/TD]
[TD]The corn of wheat to fall into the Ground[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 12:24-25[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]131. Psa. 72:17[/TD]
[TD]Belief on His name will produce offspring[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 1:12, 13[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]132. Psa. 72:17[/TD]
[TD]All nations shall be blessed by Him[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Galatians 3:8[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]133. Psa. 72:17[/TD]
[TD]All nations shall call Him blessed[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 12:13, Rev. 5:8-12[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]134. Psa. 78:1-2[/TD]
[TD]He would teach in parables[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 13:34-35[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]135. Psa. 78:2[/TD]
[TD]To speak the Wisdom of God with authority[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 7:29[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]136. Psa. 80:17[/TD]
[TD]The Man of God's right hand[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Mark 14:61-62[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]137. Psa. 88[/TD]
[TD]The Suffering and Reproach of Calvary[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 27:26-50[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]138. Psa. 88:8[/TD]
[TD]They stood afar off and watched[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 23:49[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]139. Psa. 89:27[/TD]
[TD]Firstborn[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Colossians 1:15, 18[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]140. Psa. 89:27[/TD]
[TD]Emmanuel to be higher than earthly kings[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 1:32, 33[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]141. Psa. 89:35-37[/TD]
[TD]David's Seed, throne, kingdom endure forever[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 1:32, 33[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]142. Psa. 89:36-37[/TD]
[TD]His character-Faithfulness[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Revelation 1:5; 19:11[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]143. Psa. 90:2[/TD]
[TD]He is from everlasting (Micah 5:2)[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 1:1[/TD]
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[TD]144. Psa. 91:11, 12[/TD]
[TD]Identified as Messianic; used to tempt Christ[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 4:10, 11[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]145. Psa. 97:9[/TD]
[TD]His exaltation predicted[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Acts 1:11; Ephesians 1:20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]146. Psa. 100:5[/TD]
[TD]His character-Goodness[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 19:16, 17[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]147. Psa. 102:1-11[/TD]
[TD]The Suffering and Reproach of Calvary[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 19:16-30[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]148. Psa. 102:25-27[/TD]
[TD]Messiah is the Preexistent Son[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Hebrews 1:10-12[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]149. Psa. 109:25[/TD]
[TD]Ridiculed[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 27:39[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]150. Psa. 110:1[/TD]
[TD]Son of David[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 22:42-43[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]151. Psa. 110:1[/TD]
[TD]To ascend to the right-hand of the Father[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Mark 16:19[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]152. Psa. 110:1[/TD]
[TD]David's son called Lord[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 22:44, 45[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]153. Psa. 110:4[/TD]
[TD]A priest after Melchizedek's order[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Hebrews 6:20[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]154. Psa. 112:4[/TD]
[TD]His character-Compassionate, Gracious, et al[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 9:36[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]155. Psa. 118:17, 18[/TD]
[TD]Messiah's Resurrection assured[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 24:5-7; 1Cor. 15:20[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]156. Psa. 118:22, 23[/TD]
[TD]The rejected stone is Head of the corner[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 21:42, 43[/TD]
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[TD]157. Psa. 118:26[/TD]
[TD]The Blessed One presented to Israel[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 21:9[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]158. Psa. 118:26[/TD]
[TD]To come while Temple standing[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 21:12-15[/TD]
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[TD]159. Psa. 132:11[/TD]
[TD]The Seed of David (the fruit of His Body)[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 1:32, Act 2:30[/TD]
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[TD]160. Psa. 129:3[/TD]
[TD]He was scourged[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 27:26[/TD]
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[JosephsDreams]

I went o Baruch college for a while. I lived and went o school with plenty of Jews. I have done a fair amount of business with them. I have friends who are Jews. I have gone to church with messianic Jews.

I know the mentality well. You sound a little different.

 

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[TD]161. Psa. 138:1-6[/TD]
[TD]The supremacy of David's Seed amazes kings[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 2:2-6[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]162. Psa. 147:3, 6[/TD]
[TD]The earthly ministry of Christ described[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 4:18[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]163. Prov. 1:23[/TD]
[TD]He will send the Spirit of God[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 16:7[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]164. Prov. 8:23[/TD]
[TD]Foreordained from everlasting[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Rev. 13:8, 1Peter 1:19-20[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]165. Song. 5:16[/TD]
[TD]The altogether lovely One[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 1:17[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]166. Isa. 2:3[/TD]
[TD]He shall teach all nations[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 4:25[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]167. Isa. 2:4[/TD]
[TD]He shall judge among the nations[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 5:22[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]168. Isa. 6:1[/TD]
[TD]When Isaiah saw His glory[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 12:40-41[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]169. Isa. 6:8[/TD]
[TD]The One Sent by God[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 12:38-45[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]170. Isa. 6:9-10[/TD]
[TD]Parables fall on deaf ears[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 13:13-15[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]171. Isa. 6:9-12[/TD]
[TD]Blinded to Christ and deaf to His words[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Acts 28:23-29[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]172. Isa. 7:14[/TD]
[TD]To be born of a virgin[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 1:35[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]173. Isa. 7:14[/TD]
[TD]To be Emmanuel-God with us[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 1:18-23, 1Tim. 3:16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]174. Isa. 8:8[/TD]
[TD]Called Emmanuel[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 28:20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]175. Isa. 8:14[/TD]
[TD]A stone of stumbling, a Rock of offense[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1Peter 2:8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]176. Isa. 9:1, 2[/TD]
[TD]His ministry to begin in Galilee[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 4:12-17[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]177. Isa. 9:6[/TD]
[TD]A child born-Humanity[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 1:31[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]178. Isa. 9:6[/TD]
[TD]A Son given-Deity[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 1:32, John 1:14, 1Tim. 3:16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]179. Isa. 9:6[/TD]
[TD]Declared to be the Son of God with power[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Romans 1:3, 4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]180. Isa. 9:6[/TD]
[TD]The Wonderful One, Peleh[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 4:22[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]181. Isa. 9:6[/TD]
[TD]The Counsellor, Yaatz[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 13:54[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]182. Isa. 9:6[/TD]
[TD]The Mighty God, El Gibor[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1Cor. 1:24, Titus 2:13[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]183. Isa. 9:6[/TD]
[TD]The Everlasting Father, Avi Adth[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 8:58; 10:30[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]184. Isa. 9:6[/TD]
[TD]The Prince of Peace, Sar Shalom[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 16:33[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]185. Isa. 9:7[/TD]
[TD]Inherits the throne of David[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 1:32[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]186. Isa. 9:7[/TD]
[TD]His Character-Just[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 5:30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]187. Isa. 9:7[/TD]
[TD]No end to his Government, Throne, and kingdom[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 1:33[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]188. Isa. 11:1[/TD]
[TD]Called a Nazarene-the Branch, Netzer[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 2:23[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]189. Isa. 11:1[/TD]
[TD]A rod out of Jesse-Son of Jesse[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 3:23, 32[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]190. Isa. 11:2[/TD]
[TD]Anointed One by the Spirit[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 3:16, 17, Acts 10:38[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]191. Isa. 11:2[/TD]
[TD]His Character-Wisdom, Knowledge, et al[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Colossians 2:3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]192. Isa. 11:3[/TD]
[TD]He would know their thoughts[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Luke 6:8, John 2:25[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]193. Isa. 11:4[/TD]
[TD]Judge in righteousness[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Acts 17:31[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]194. Isa. 11:4[/TD]
[TD]Judges with the sword of His mouth[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Rev. 2:16; 19:11, 15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]195. Isa. 11:5[/TD]
[TD]Character: Righteous & Faithful[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Rev. 19:11[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]196. Isa. 11:10[/TD]
[TD]The Gentiles seek Him[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]John 12:18-21[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]197. Isa. 12:2[/TD]
[TD]Called Jesus-Yeshua[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Matthew 1:21[/TD]
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[TD]198. Isa. 22:22[/TD]
[TD]The One given all authority to govern[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Revelation 3:7[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]199. Isa. 25:8[/TD]
[TD]The Resurrection predicted[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1Corinthians 15:54[/TD]
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[TD]200. Isa. 26:19[/TD]
[TD]His power of Resurrection predicted[/TD]
[/TR]
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[Baruch]

This are all New Testament stuff and some of those people are Roman citizens.

 

[JosephsDreams]

The Messiah was spoken of in the Tanach but Jesus wasn't the Messiah or the son of god. of course you are happy that he died how else your sins will be forgiven? Don't ignore the rest of my post.

You should be "happy" he died to. He dies for your sins also.
You have eyes but do not see, ears but do not hear. Do you know who said that?
No Christians are "happy" he died BTW.

 

[JosephsDreams]

Do you believe a 3rd Temple will be built again?

 

[Magenta]

This are all New Testament stuff and some of those people are Roman citizens.

Psalms and Isaiah and Genesis, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Ruth, Samuel, Kings, Chronicles, Job etc are all New Testament? You are really terribly confused.