In EVERY blood sacrifice there was always at least a marginal emphasis on atonement for sin, even in those sacrifices that seem not to be connected with atonement. Lest anyone misunderstand, sin was indeed forgiven under the Law and God had promised Israel he would do that. Even Davis understood this.
Sacrifices - burnt, sin, guilt, grain, drink, peace,trespass, incense offering
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Perhaps I misunderstand then, but I understand that sins were not actually forgiven? The animals were a substitute for the person presenting the sacrifice and the sins were 'covered'
But I am referring to this passage from Hebrews 10
10 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. 2 Otherwise, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. 3 But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins. 4 It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.
5 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:
“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
but a body you prepared for me;
6 with burnt offerings and sin offerings
you were not pleased.
7 Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll—
I have come to do your will, my God.’”[a]
But I am referring to this passage from Hebrews 10
10 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. 2 Otherwise, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. 3 But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins. 4 It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.
5 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:
“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
but a body you prepared for me;
6 with burnt offerings and sin offerings
you were not pleased.
7 Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll—
I have come to do your will, my God.’”[a]
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When I worship and somehow it seems I am all closed in with the presence of God, it is so awesome and I think that changes us. As we are in His presence, we are changed. Reminds me of that passage by Paul where he states we see through a glass darkly, but when we will see Jesus face to face we shall be changed because we will know as we are known.
That is so evasive at times and yet so close at others.
Do you know what I mean?
That is so evasive at times and yet so close at others.
Do you know what I mean?
"insult others" "defiling them"
Is it possible to defile someone else by what is written?
It is possible to change someones perspective of another person and what they are
sharing and why, from being truthful and honest to possibly heretical and distorted.
This is actually what it means to walk in the light, to bring ideas and concepts into
the open.
So emotionally something that is deemed as precious and holy could be junk, lost,
empty and rotten.
So maybe this idea of defilement might be an accurate emotional description of how
people feel they are being treated but if it is the truth, then the truth must be spoken.
The whole point of Christ was to bring the truth.
In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.
John 18:37
So what are we, seekers after the truth, or seekers after things that sooth our
hearts and lifestyles?
Is it possible to defile someone else by what is written?
It is possible to change someones perspective of another person and what they are
sharing and why, from being truthful and honest to possibly heretical and distorted.
This is actually what it means to walk in the light, to bring ideas and concepts into
the open.
So emotionally something that is deemed as precious and holy could be junk, lost,
empty and rotten.
So maybe this idea of defilement might be an accurate emotional description of how
people feel they are being treated but if it is the truth, then the truth must be spoken.
The whole point of Christ was to bring the truth.
In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.
John 18:37
So what are we, seekers after the truth, or seekers after things that sooth our
hearts and lifestyles?
I 100% know what you mean.
Sometime ago I realised the difference between showing loyalty to a spiritual
authority and honouring the Lord. We can often give authority to situations and
people which inadvertantly dishonours the Lord and puts distance between us.
It is like we need to wash ourselves in the word and the Spirit daily to find this
place of fellowship and glory with Him.
What has confused me recently is seeing others failings and then worrying about
worship with them, rather than just worshiping the Lord from my heart and dwelling
in that place, one to one, no matter where others are.
The Lord is always worthy of our praise and thanks through Jesus Christ His son, Amen.
Sometime ago I realised the difference between showing loyalty to a spiritual
authority and honouring the Lord. We can often give authority to situations and
people which inadvertantly dishonours the Lord and puts distance between us.
It is like we need to wash ourselves in the word and the Spirit daily to find this
place of fellowship and glory with Him.
What has confused me recently is seeing others failings and then worrying about
worship with them, rather than just worshiping the Lord from my heart and dwelling
in that place, one to one, no matter where others are.
The Lord is always worthy of our praise and thanks through Jesus Christ His son, Amen.
It always seemed to me that the offerings when combined presented the full picture of what is afforded man in Christ dia faith...
1. The complete covering for ALL sin
2. The removal of guilt before God
3. The restoration of fellowship with God (lost in Adam)
4. The positioning of grace in Christ
5. The resulting peace between man and God
6. The now open line of communication between God and men and the right to enter his presence dia prayer
7. The now open access to the table of God and the blessings that come from this open access
Without a doubt the law establishes the guilt of every man before the eternal righteous God of heaven....and takes us by the hand and points us to the one who can fix the problem (sin) and the consequence of sin. To me the blood applied in the Passover, subsequent delivery from Egypt and delivery to the very edge of the promise land under Moses (representing the law) is the picture of the "schoolmaster" found in the N.T......Moses could not enter, nor deliver into the promise land because the LAW will never deliver anyone from Sin and the consequences and or punishments afforded under the law......IT took Joshua (savior) and his conquest (JESUS over sin) to deliver the people from bondage, and the wilderness of SIN into the land of rest...........
1. The complete covering for ALL sin
2. The removal of guilt before God
3. The restoration of fellowship with God (lost in Adam)
4. The positioning of grace in Christ
5. The resulting peace between man and God
6. The now open line of communication between God and men and the right to enter his presence dia prayer
7. The now open access to the table of God and the blessings that come from this open access
Without a doubt the law establishes the guilt of every man before the eternal righteous God of heaven....and takes us by the hand and points us to the one who can fix the problem (sin) and the consequence of sin. To me the blood applied in the Passover, subsequent delivery from Egypt and delivery to the very edge of the promise land under Moses (representing the law) is the picture of the "schoolmaster" found in the N.T......Moses could not enter, nor deliver into the promise land because the LAW will never deliver anyone from Sin and the consequences and or punishments afforded under the law......IT took Joshua (savior) and his conquest (JESUS over sin) to deliver the people from bondage, and the wilderness of SIN into the land of rest...........
For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.
Heb 9:15
The above verse is implying the sins forgiven before the cross where not forgiven by themselves
but as part of Christ dying on the cross.
so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
Heb 9:28
Heb 9:15
The above verse is implying the sins forgiven before the cross where not forgiven by themselves
but as part of Christ dying on the cross.
so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
Heb 9:28
burnt offering -
The Hebrew word for “burnt offering” actually means to “ascend,“ literally to “go up in smoke.” The smoke from the sacrifice ascended to God, “a soothing aroma to the LORD” (Leviticus 1:9). Technically, any offering burned over an altar was a burnt offering, but in more specific terms, a burnt offering was the complete destruction of the animal (except for the hide) in an effort to renew the relationship between Holy God and sinful man. With the development of the law, God gave the Israelites specific instructions as to the types of burnt offerings and what they symbolized.
https://www.gotquestions.org/burnt-offering.html
Times for offerings - every morning, and every evening at twilight
This is what you are to offer on the altar regularly each day: two lambs a year old. 39 Offer one in the morning and the other at twilight. 40 With the first lamb offer a tenth of an ephah[c] of the finest flour mixed with a quarter of a hin[d] of oil from pressed olives, and a quarter of a hin of wine as a drink offering. 41 Sacrifice the other lamb at twilight with the same grain offering and its drink offering as in the morning—a pleasing aroma, a food offering presented to the Lord.
Exodus 29:38-41
Each day we need cleansing, at the beginning of the day and at the end of the day
no matter what has happened, issues need to be dealt with, regularly.
And the sacrifice is a one year old lamb, Jesus.
The Hebrew word for “burnt offering” actually means to “ascend,“ literally to “go up in smoke.” The smoke from the sacrifice ascended to God, “a soothing aroma to the LORD” (Leviticus 1:9). Technically, any offering burned over an altar was a burnt offering, but in more specific terms, a burnt offering was the complete destruction of the animal (except for the hide) in an effort to renew the relationship between Holy God and sinful man. With the development of the law, God gave the Israelites specific instructions as to the types of burnt offerings and what they symbolized.
https://www.gotquestions.org/burnt-offering.html
Times for offerings - every morning, and every evening at twilight
This is what you are to offer on the altar regularly each day: two lambs a year old. 39 Offer one in the morning and the other at twilight. 40 With the first lamb offer a tenth of an ephah[c] of the finest flour mixed with a quarter of a hin[d] of oil from pressed olives, and a quarter of a hin of wine as a drink offering. 41 Sacrifice the other lamb at twilight with the same grain offering and its drink offering as in the morning—a pleasing aroma, a food offering presented to the Lord.
Exodus 29:38-41
Each day we need cleansing, at the beginning of the day and at the end of the day
no matter what has happened, issues need to be dealt with, regularly.
And the sacrifice is a one year old lamb, Jesus.
the law was established, for what grew into a jewish people or nation. (at the time of jesus) but the bottom line of this is a faith in god, and a law of the land, combined etc
the hebrew, writer is jewish, paul is jewish, peter is jewish. to be a mediator to a new covenant , you must understand, why it was changed. these here were telling about the change to christian teachings.
The Leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees
5 When the disciples reached the other side, they had forgotten to bring any bread.6 Jesus said to them, "Watch and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees."7 And they began discussing it among themselves, saying, "We brought no bread."8 But Jesus, aware of this, said, "O you of little faith, why are you discussing among yourselves the fact that you have no bread?9 Do you not yet perceive? Do you not remember the five loaves for the five thousand, and how many baskets you gathered?10 Or the seven loaves for the four thousand, and how many baskets you gathered?11 How is it that you fail to understand that I did not speak about bread? Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees."12 Then they understood that he did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.Matthew 16:
the hebrew, writer
For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.
Heb 9:15
paul is jewish,
.4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.Galatians 5
peter is jewish.
28 And he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean.29 So when I was sent for, I came without objection. I ask then why you sent for me."Acts 10: Peter and Cornelius
the old is up in smoke , that echos gal 5 1-4.
the hebrew, writer is jewish, paul is jewish, peter is jewish. to be a mediator to a new covenant , you must understand, why it was changed. these here were telling about the change to christian teachings.
The Leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees
5 When the disciples reached the other side, they had forgotten to bring any bread.6 Jesus said to them, "Watch and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees."7 And they began discussing it among themselves, saying, "We brought no bread."8 But Jesus, aware of this, said, "O you of little faith, why are you discussing among yourselves the fact that you have no bread?9 Do you not yet perceive? Do you not remember the five loaves for the five thousand, and how many baskets you gathered?10 Or the seven loaves for the four thousand, and how many baskets you gathered?11 How is it that you fail to understand that I did not speak about bread? Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees."12 Then they understood that he did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.Matthew 16:
the hebrew, writer
For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.
Heb 9:15
paul is jewish,
.4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.Galatians 5
peter is jewish.
28 And he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean.29 So when I was sent for, I came without objection. I ask then why you sent for me."Acts 10: Peter and Cornelius
the old is up in smoke , that echos gal 5 1-4.
who was the law given too, that one, should give it more observance that a new covenant,
For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.
Heb 9:15
when was christian given the law, (acts 15) gentile converts
and that will be to the jewish converts ,(gal51-4)
do you see the problem ,
For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.
Heb 9:15
when was christian given the law, (acts 15) gentile converts
and that will be to the jewish converts ,(gal51-4)
do you see the problem ,