can you recieve salvation whilst your spirit is a live in the Body.
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Here is a link that explains how people without Christ will be judged: How can God fairly judge those who do not get a chance to hear about Jesus? | Questions & Answers
You are in no place to tell me that I can't have confidence about thevresult of my judgement. I have much confidence for I know that in this world I was like Him (1 John 4:17)
I know Christ is in the Father, I am in Him, and He is in me. (John 14:20)
So what were you saying? I will have boldness on that great day of judgement, thank you.
You are in no place to tell me that I can't have confidence about thevresult of my judgement. I have much confidence for I know that in this world I was like Him (1 John 4:17)
I know Christ is in the Father, I am in Him, and He is in me. (John 14:20)
So what were you saying? I will have boldness on that great day of judgement, thank you.
No because its the same as when Jesus cast out demons they can come back.. and in the case of being drowned.. you could get drowed again..
I dont want anyone to fit under what my beliefs and poll i simply want to understand people beliefs. whats so diffucult about that. ?
So you believe in once saved allways saved.. good for you if you know your not going to abandon your faith.. but like i said earlier i could marry a gay tomorrow and get ran over by a bus the next day..
I dont want anyone to fit under what my beliefs and poll i simply want to understand people beliefs. whats so diffucult about that. ?
So you believe in once saved allways saved.. good for you if you know your not going to abandon your faith.. but like i said earlier i could marry a gay tomorrow and get ran over by a bus the next day..
... have you totally forgotten that you asked me the question about how people were saved in the old testament AND rudely told me that I can't "assume my salvation"..... post 41..
You are absolutely wrong about that last part too. That was a foolish and dark thing to say to someone you don't even know jimbo.
You are absolutely wrong about that last part too. That was a foolish and dark thing to say to someone you don't even know jimbo.
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Jimbo,
No apology necessary since you weren't speaking to me.
However, I would like to say this, and I don't mean to derail this thread but I feel this is important.
YOU say that buffoon means to act silly.
We're not allowed to make up our own definitions of words. If we do that, we would not be able to understand each other anymore!! Maybe this expression should b e removed from your vocabulary since you honestly do not know what it means.
Here is the meaning. It's not pleasant!:
buf·foon (bə-fo͞on′)
n.
1. A clown; a jester: a court buffoon.
2. A person given to clowning and joking.
3. A ludicrous or bumbling person; a fool.
[French bouffon, from Old Italian buffone, from buffa, jest, from buffare, to puff, of imitative origin.]
buf·foon′er·y (bə-fo͞o′nə-rē) n.
American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2016 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.
buffoon (bəˈfuːn)
n
1. a person who amuses others by ridiculous or odd behaviour, jokes, etc
2. a foolish person
[C16: from French bouffon, from Italian buffone, from Medieval Latin būfō, from Latin: toad]
bufˈfoonery n
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014
buf•foon (bəˈfun)
n.
1. a person who amuses others by jokes, pranks, etc.
2. a person given to coarse or offensive joking.
[1540–50; earlier buffon < French < Italian buffone=buff- (expressive base) + -one agent suffix]
buf•foon′er•y, n.
buf•foon′ish, adj.
Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.
No apology necessary since you weren't speaking to me.
However, I would like to say this, and I don't mean to derail this thread but I feel this is important.
YOU say that buffoon means to act silly.
We're not allowed to make up our own definitions of words. If we do that, we would not be able to understand each other anymore!! Maybe this expression should b e removed from your vocabulary since you honestly do not know what it means.
Here is the meaning. It's not pleasant!:
buf·foon (bə-fo͞on′)
n.
1. A clown; a jester: a court buffoon.
2. A person given to clowning and joking.
3. A ludicrous or bumbling person; a fool.
[French bouffon, from Old Italian buffone, from buffa, jest, from buffare, to puff, of imitative origin.]
buf·foon′er·y (bə-fo͞o′nə-rē) n.
American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2016 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.
buffoon (bəˈfuːn)
n
1. a person who amuses others by ridiculous or odd behaviour, jokes, etc
2. a foolish person
[C16: from French bouffon, from Italian buffone, from Medieval Latin būfō, from Latin: toad]
bufˈfoonery n
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014
buf•foon (bəˈfun)
n.
1. a person who amuses others by jokes, pranks, etc.
2. a person given to coarse or offensive joking.
[1540–50; earlier buffon < French < Italian buffone=buff- (expressive base) + -one agent suffix]
buf•foon′er•y, n.
buf•foon′ish, adj.
Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.
Being born of the spirit can happen when your baptised.. (and would you agree).
Baptism as you know is being saved if the person being baptised is truly seeking God with all his heart and all his mind.
Now this is not salvation my friend this is start of your walk,,
You know that when you keep the faith your also rewarded,,, maybe even a mirracle my friend.. love you bro
Baptism as you know is being saved if the person being baptised is truly seeking God with all his heart and all his mind.
Now this is not salvation my friend this is start of your walk,,
You know that when you keep the faith your also rewarded,,, maybe even a mirracle my friend.. love you bro
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Ohhhh! It worked. Now I know what you're asking.
OSAS? Yes, I do believe that, but with an add on: "but be sure you were once saved."
In my denomination that's the P in TULIP. "Perseverance of the Saints." Yes, God saves but once. But it takes quite a bit to come under the realization it is saved. The realization doesn't come until a lot of perseverance happens.
(And if I saved you from drowning, and you drowned the next day? I still saved you from drowning... once. lol)
You can have the spirit and abandon your faith thats it mate end of.
can you see the diffrence. bewteen once saved and always saved now.
Or maybe many people think there saved but havent actually recieved the spirit yet.
In other words i generaly belief that anyone can be baptised and recieve the spirit. and i mean anyone. the enlightenment is your not anyone and as you know anyone can abandon there faith and become a radicalist....
can you see the diffrence. bewteen once saved and always saved now.
Or maybe many people think there saved but havent actually recieved the spirit yet.
In other words i generaly belief that anyone can be baptised and recieve the spirit. and i mean anyone. the enlightenment is your not anyone and as you know anyone can abandon there faith and become a radicalist....
Ohhhh! It worked. Now I know what you're asking.
OSAS? Yes, I do believe that, but with an add on: "but be sure you were once saved."
In my denomination that's the P in TULIP. "Perseverance of the Saints." Yes, God saves but once. But it takes quite a bit to come under the realization it is saved. The realization doesn't come until a lot of perseverance happens.
(And if I saved you from drowning, and you drowned the next day? I still saved you from drowning... once. lol)
OSAS? Yes, I do believe that, but with an add on: "but be sure you were once saved."
In my denomination that's the P in TULIP. "Perseverance of the Saints." Yes, God saves but once. But it takes quite a bit to come under the realization it is saved. The realization doesn't come until a lot of perseverance happens.
(And if I saved you from drowning, and you drowned the next day? I still saved you from drowning... once. lol)
I have to say im quite shocked of the poll result here.
I dont want to take anyones hope of salvation away but i would like for people to hope for salvation.
(Matthew 24:13) "But he who shall endure to the end, the same shall be saved."
(my interpratation of this we can be saved until the end but salvation comes at the end..
(Mark 16:16 RPT) "He who believed and was baptised shall be saved;"(Ahain it speaks of being saved untill the end but doesnt include salvation.
(Acts 15:11) "But we believe that through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they."
Again this saying you are saved your on the right path so to speak..
(Romans 13:11) "for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
"Of course it is because youve excepted Jesus but please note this mentions nearer meaning your salvation hasnt been declared yet..
(you are to hope and pray for it.)
(Philippians 2:12) "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."
(keep the faith).
(1 Peter 1:5 RPT) "Who are being kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.".
(this scipture well and truly points out you can be saved until the end but salvation isnt for us to decide rather we are to work out are own salvation without fear or trembling.. and for me there is only one way to work this out and that is as long as you keep the faith and dont abandon it then your salvation is nearer to the end..
I dont want to take anyones hope of salvation away but i would like for people to hope for salvation.
(Matthew 24:13) "But he who shall endure to the end, the same shall be saved."
(my interpratation of this we can be saved until the end but salvation comes at the end..
(Mark 16:16 RPT) "He who believed and was baptised shall be saved;"(Ahain it speaks of being saved untill the end but doesnt include salvation.
(Acts 15:11) "But we believe that through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they."
Again this saying you are saved your on the right path so to speak..
(Romans 13:11) "for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
"Of course it is because youve excepted Jesus but please note this mentions nearer meaning your salvation hasnt been declared yet..
(you are to hope and pray for it.)
(Philippians 2:12) "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."
(keep the faith).
(1 Peter 1:5 RPT) "Who are being kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.".
(this scipture well and truly points out you can be saved until the end but salvation isnt for us to decide rather we are to work out are own salvation without fear or trembling.. and for me there is only one way to work this out and that is as long as you keep the faith and dont abandon it then your salvation is nearer to the end..
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