Can you "hear" God? If you can, describe it.

[Ariel82]

Hungry, they are just concerned that you are rejecting the New testament or making your revelations equal to those writers who walked with Jesus.

You have hinted that you dont believe many of the Catholic church doctrines and hinted at other revelations God made to you. Then implied that the church got it wrong.

Most are telling you wait a minute.

What do you test your revelations against if it's not the Bible or established church doctrine?

The whole protestant movement was founded because people didn't agree with practices established in the Catholic church.

However, I believe God has a purpose for church and He makes it work as the bride and body of Christ.

When you seem to deride the New Testament and the Church. You will offend many people.

Not sure if that was your meaning, but that is how your words are being understood.

 

[Hungry]

now here is your original response to me regarding sending me a pm




now here are more posts from you including your op:



so you have 'special' powers. many people think this and it is more common than you would believe. it does not end well or keeps going right off the charts until their wife or husband or friends leave them or family or whatever. I've seen it happen and it is not funny.

someone asked you in post 5 to explain how you hear God...

this is what you said:



again you illustrate you have 'special knowledge' and you are understanding things hidden to most. this is more common than you would believe. this is actually a common deception and people do not believe they are not hearing from God. there is not hidden knowledge. The plan of God revealed to us in the New Testament was what was hidden. There is no secret that you have discovered. Again, many have gone before you and said the same thing. nothing new under the sun there

and I could cite you through the thread with this idea that you have knowledge that God, waiting until the 21st C, has decided to reveal through you

again, you are not alone. your numbers are many. the internet is full of people saying the same thing.

I will answer this so it doesn't appear as if I'm avoiding it, even though sevenseas has gone elsewhere. I wouldn't call anything "special powers". It was just once I gave up on caring about life because of being so frustrated my mind seemed to have expanded and all of a sudden everything in Scripture that most people just say "we can never really understand the mind of
God" about, seemed to be explained to me more clearly. The hidden things I was referring to had more to do with how
and why we were made. As much as people think God wants to see us happy, that's not exactly true. The boat that people are missing is that when we become Christians our happiness should take a back seat to others. You can't be in the rat race unless you are a rat. If you are playing that game, then your motivations are most likely serving self.

The Christian message that most subscribe to is basically keep the same path you were on when you surrendered to Christ and just try to pay more attention to potholes. The narrow path is more of a complete mind alteration. You have to let go of every bit of programming that you encountered since youth. Go to college, get great job, make lots of money and buy lots of stuff, have some kids to perpetuate the cycle and teach them the race. The believers at first sold all of their stuff and lived in a community putting each others needs ahead of their own. We get upset if our kids don't get the preferred roles in the Christmas play at church. Not all but some. By and large we are selfish and competitive by nature and by programming. We are raised to think our countries are the best, we are the smartest and deserve more than we get. I accepted Lord years ago and never opened my eyes to the severity of my sin until my actual surrender. We say we give it all to Him but we don't. I can't be the only one who struggled with sin for years not realizing the truth. The truth never was so loud in my head until I seriously gave it ALL to Him because I was so tired of carrying the burdens of this life. He told me "want" is what keeps us snared. That's the hidden message. Stop wanting it's all just the flesh. He needs our hands. Everybody thinks God is all powerful but He uses us as catalysts to enact His will. Our hearts need to be surrendered before He can use our hands. Every question He can answer. He told me why He allows suffering. We just have to ask. Something else that may come as a surprise. When Christ returns I think it may be a little more like Star Trek and a less like Touched By an Angel. The clues are everywhere.

 

[Hungry]

Prove this too.

BTW, if those are the grounds for dismissing James, then shouldn't The Gospel of Luke and Acts be dismissed? I don't see Luke doing miracles. How about Hebrews? We don't even know, for sure, who wrote that book. And, if Acts is supposed to be dismissed, then let's just dismiss everything but who we know who did perform miracles. That brings it down to Peter and John. Can't include Paul, because Acts is the only proof Paul ever did miracles. Come to think of it, can't prove Peter or John either without Acts.

Fun game, huh? Now, go for it. Prove what you keep saying as if it makes it fact.

I don't understand what proof you need. I didn't dismiss the New Testament as a work of fiction. My only point is that when people quote the NT they can't emphatically say that was God breathed like most of the OT by prophets who had a standard to live up to. I'm not saying that it isn't Spirit inspired. My point is that just because it's not written in the Bible doesn't make it dismissible. I have to do some stuff so good night. I never and will never say a bad thing about Catholics or anybody. The RCC however has had made too many visible errors to dismiss as Spirit filled. That's not to say some believers within its ranks aren't. That organization is abuse of power plain and simple.

 

[Ariel82]

The Christian message that most subscribe to is basically keep the same path you were on when you surrendered to Christ and just try to pay more attention to potholes.

If you believe that is the Christian message or what most people believe, then you have been attending the wrong churches.

Most of the Christians I know believe that God brings about a complete change of mind, heart and desires.

 

[JaumeJ]

I believe the post is a reference to how God takes us the way we are..............maybe it is.....I hope so anyway. God bless yous...

If you believe that is the Christian message or what most people believe, then you have been attending the wrong churches.

Most of the Christians I know believe that God brings about a complete change of mind, heart and desires.

 

[Depleted]

I don't understand what proof you need. I didn't dismiss the New Testament as a work of fiction. My only point is that when people quote the NT they can't emphatically say that was God breathed like most of the OT by prophets who had a standard to live up to. I'm not saying that it isn't Spirit inspired. My point is that just because it's not written in the Bible doesn't make it dismissible. I have to do some stuff so good night. I never and will never say a bad thing about Catholics or anybody. The RCC however has had made too many visible errors to dismiss as Spirit filled. That's not to say some believers within its ranks aren't. That organization is abuse of power plain and simple.

This is as if you think the RCC is responsible for the creation of the NT. That's preposterous. You keep making up history. Nothing you've said about the history of the NT is true. It is as much inspired by God as the OT. And yet you keep making up stories saying otherwise. "That organization" didn't exist at the Nicene Council. Where are you getting your bogus history from? And how does the RCC keep creeping up in your answers? Not too many people on this site cotton to the RCC, so I have no idea why you keep making them a fall guy before they existed!

Yes, not only can we say the NT is just as inspired as the OT, I'll go so far as to say you are NOT a believer if you think otherwise.

 

[Trailblazer]

if you know his voice there is no question as to if it's demonic or not, his voice is very distinctive his voice gives peace and love it gives hope and encouragement it is one that fills the one who hears it with life while the enemies gives us doubt and worry guilt and shame it fills us with fear and confusion and doesn't give us understanding.

I myself have heard his voice in my mind before but i don't tend to rely on that because it can be affected by our own thoughts and also the enemies, to hear and know his voice well you must be in constant communion with God listen with your heart not your mind[/QUOTE


Jesus works through the Heart. Satan works through the Mind. Scripture says the battle is for the Mind. Seems it may be safe to say then!... Any thoughts that come to mind that are from God may/should have a prompting of the heart. Any thoughts
that come to mind without a prompting of the heart should be tested with what the scriptures teach. To see if these thoughts may be of God or not of God.

I personally get a prompting of my heart from God with thoughts that come to mind at the same time.
Thoughts that's come to mind that may not be that good. I turn to Scripture, For are they a conviction? or thoughts that are Not of God.

Interesting topic. For earlier tonight I posted in testimonies. (A Wild Conviction) If it were not for the prompting in my heart. I would tend to think them thoughts were not of God. But i know in my heart. I am being a pretty useless Christian
for a while now.

 

[mj007]

Well I did give an example of a conversation I had with God further up. As for how I came to have such a conversation (on many occasions I try to write it down), it came from stillness.

Imagine this, we have our brain, and our mind. And when our mind is in control, our thoughts may seem overbearing. And even if they are not and we feel we control them, we might be too busy with them. Self-righteous people are the ones who are busy controlling their thoughts. They quickly attach scripture to everything (like a well organised machine), rather than speak through themselves.

However God is better to control your thoughts.

God to me, is like a whisper, quiet, calm, and you can only hear God when it is silent. "Be still and know that I am God" or as I would maybe translate it, "God: Be still and know that this is where you will find me"

There are many loud outspoken people, and my answer to them is don't listen to them. I say that because often in their arrogance (or you may not even see it), they make people feel small, or they take the focus off each other on to themselves.

Note to self: Do not use the Chat system, it is full of these people who love to be on mic and have the attention on them rather than people having attention on each other.

 

[Hungry]

This is as if you think the RCC is responsible for the creation of the NT. That's preposterous. You keep making up history. Nothing you've said about the history of the NT is true. It is as much inspired by God as the OT. And yet you keep making up stories saying otherwise. "That organization" didn't exist at the Nicene Council. Where are you getting your bogus history from? And how does the RCC keep creeping up in your answers? Not too many people on this site cotton to the RCC, so I have no idea why you keep making them a fall guy before they existed!

Yes, not only can we say the NT is just as inspired as the OT, I'll go so far as to say you are NOT a believer if you think otherwise.

Do you even read my posts before you respond?

 

[NayborBear]

Hungry:
There are very many people who read the Bible! The "Key of David", is when reading the Bible, it's like you have this "presence" peering over yer shoulder, so to speak, causing you to pause in your reading, from time to time, and asking you what ya just read! Asking "your take", on what ya just read. Providing insights, and an expansion of your faith, and sometimes offering you to "connect dots", in tieing various thoughts/beliefs/interpretations of scripture, somewhat differently, from that which were (sometimes) indoctrinated, to accept as truth, and the way it is! One can also picture this like Gods' choosing of Gideon's army, when He had the men of Israel, come to the river to drink water. And just by the way the guys drank water, God knew who He could trust! Strangely enough, this still holds true to this very day! One would like to think that one might be able to help/aid those who cup the water in their hands and carefully parse out those things in the water, until they have rendered it suitable enough for them to drink it. Rather sad, actually! Yet! Are these people saved? Are these people denied Gods' blessing/s and healing/s, etc? The answer is a resounding YES!...They are! Are these ones who "parse the water" limited in thier "level/s of access, and authority/ies?"...Again, a resounding YES!...Yet, it is these people who walk around in confusion and wondering the "why" they or a loved one or relative are sick! It's tough and heartbreaking, in its endurance, and a whole lot of OT stories and NT parables, like, the parable of the 10 virgins, or, like when God told Noah it was time to seal up the ark. People have an extremely hard go of it, when other people are not a hand or foot, or arm, like they are, start making claims, or speaking in a manner, that they themselves are not able to understand, or have the "level of understanding/access" that others' do.

So, when they do "parse" ye out, like is being done? Be strong! Get used to it! Comes with the territory! Expect to be attacked! Keep reading your Bible!

 

[Hungry]

Hungry:
There are very many people who read the Bible! The "Key of David", is when reading the Bible, it's like you have this "presence" peering over yer shoulder, so to speak, causing you to pause in your reading, from time to time, and asking you what ya just read! Asking "your take", on what ya just read. Providing insights, and an expansion of your faith, and sometimes offering you to "connect dots", in tieing various thoughts/beliefs/interpretations of scripture, somewhat differently, from that which were (sometimes) indoctrinated, to accept as truth, and the way it is! One can also picture this like Gods' choosing of Gideon's army, when He had the men of Israel, come to the river to drink water. And just by the way the guys drank water, God knew who He could trust! Strangely enough, this still holds true to this very day! One would like to think that one might be able to help/aid those who cup the water in their hands and carefully parse out those things in the water, until they have rendered it suitable enough for them to drink it. Rather sad, actually! Yet! Are these people saved? Are these people denied Gods' blessing/s and healing/s, etc? The answer is a resounding YES!...They are! Are these ones who "parse the water" limited in thier "level/s of access, and authority/ies?"...Again, a resounding YES!...Yet, it is these people who walk around in confusion and wondering the "why" they or a loved one or relative are sick! It's tough and heartbreaking, in its endurance, and a whole lot of OT stories and NT parables, like, the parable of the 10 virgins, or, like when God told Noah it was time to seal up the ark. People have an extremely hard go of it, when other people are not a hand or foot, or arm, like they are, start making claims, or speaking in a manner, that they themselves are not able to understand, or have the "level of understanding/access" that others' do.

So, when they do "parse" ye out, like is being done? Be strong! Get used to it! Comes with the territory! Expect to be attacked! Keep reading your Bible!

Thanks for your encouragement. I just wonder where some of these questions come from. I clearly stated that I believe the authors of the NT were Spirit filled. I just stopped responding because it appears that some people just want to pick a fight.

 

[shittim]

Hungry- I understand what you are going through here on this thread, many, perhaps most will arrive at salvation and rest there, others will grow and continue to grow in all the Lord has for us, there was His response in matthew 13-10 explaining how the secrets of the kingdom were given to the 12 but not to the people, it isn't any "new revelation", the 12 were given to Jesus, He only did what the father showed Him to do, they were not selected at random, at the end he prayed "not one of these that you have given me have I lost".
Jesus told us of how in these days "they will hold an outward form of Godliness and deny the power thereof".
Looks to me that you are growing in your faith and are on the right track and thus being buffeted by those who may be saved
but are growing more slowly, if at all.
I am watching more of John Wimber's teaching and recommend them highly, I think you will find many answers and growth there that you will not find among outward form believers.
There are more spiritually aware believers here than most, if not all forums I have seen, just not near enough that He would have.
bless you

 

[Sirk]

Hungry- I understand what you are going through here on this thread, many, perhaps most will arrive at salvation and rest there, others will grow and continue to grow in all the Lord has for us, there was His response in matthew 13-10 explaining how the secrets of the kingdom were given to the 12 but not to the people, it isn't any "new revelation", the 12 were given to Jesus, He only did what the father showed Him to do, they were not selected at random, at the end he prayed "not one of these that you have given me have I lost".
Jesus told us of how in these days "they will hold an outward form of Godliness and deny the power thereof".
Looks to me that you are growing in your faith and are on the right track and thus being buffeted by those who may be saved
but are growing more slowly, if at all.
I am watching more of John Wimber's teaching and recommend them highly, I think you will find many answers and growth there that you will not find among outward form believers.
There are more spiritually aware believers here than most, if not all forums I have seen, just not near enough that He would have.
bless you

I'm curious as to how your user name was approved.

 

[shittim]

then ask the people who approved it

 

[Depleted]

Do you even read my posts before you respond?

Yes. Do you ever plan on giving proof for your allegations?

 

[Hungry]

What allegations? That sun worshipping Constantine railroaded Christianity and became the Catholic Church or that the Catholic Church had a say in what made it into the canon? It's no secret. I have a feeling that your mind is made up so why bother.

 

[Magenta]

I'm curious as to how your user name was approved.

It is a Biblical name/word

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/shittim/

 

[oldethennew]

Thanks Magenta,

you are a great teacher on this forum...

 

[shittim]

I was having difficulty finding a handle that hadn't been taken, it was the first one I found.
It was the last camp before crossing the Jordan, and when I found this place I thought this was the last
place I would "camp" before I went to my reward. I would change it if I could, I would also pay by check to support the work but haven't found that avenue yet.
Thank you Magenta.
Blessings

 

[JaumeJ]

Do a search in your Bible for ships of Shittim. You may also find it interesting that shittim is also a type of wood.. a tree.

I'm curious as to how your user name was approved.