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K
Um really if a guy has to ask how do i get a girl that is a good sign he is not smart enough to keep her. Come on do we have to write it out in green crayon? My sons came to me ages 13 12 and 10, they didnt understand why kids at their school were dating. My middle son came to me and said "Mom I want to wait and have my own car, my own job, my own money before I even think about dating a girl. So my son knows what it takes just like God does, my son basically said how to get a girl is having MONEY POWER and a load of security to offer. God did not bring the woman into the picture until all things were provided, in place, and in abudance. So men take a hint from God and my sons. And no my sons did not learn from their Dad he has been gone from them for over nine years and no they did not learn it from me, My sons learned it from God. Men you can learn alot from God point is you dont love him enough. GET A CLUE!
M
I think it's pretty appalling that Kiwi_OT has received offensive messages from men on this subject, I disagreed but I did it publicly and in a civil way, behave that way and all you do is reinforce a negative sterotype about men that we are all immature and incapable of mature discussion, let's not go that way PLEASE!.
That said the opening post did come across a little harsh, it read like tough love and it was basically telling men on here to just grow up, the hostile reactions aren't justified but I can understand why some guys were offended as a more delicate approach generally avoids the hurt but retains the message.
I think there's something for everyone to learn from this.
That said the opening post did come across a little harsh, it read like tough love and it was basically telling men on here to just grow up, the hostile reactions aren't justified but I can understand why some guys were offended as a more delicate approach generally avoids the hurt but retains the message.
I think there's something for everyone to learn from this.
C
matthew 6:33 but seek first the kingdom of god and his righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. i believe seeking god first and loving him with all your heart and not giving a crap about relationships for now that he will see the desires of your heart even the desire of wanting a husband or a wife to love you and to love god as well its more than just dating i believe waiting for god to say " heyy my child look thats ur wife/husband " is worth waiting for because its by god and knowing thats its by him it'll all work out and plus its beautiful knowing that when he says that, you know thats the person god meant for you and only you, so pray and seek his face and he WILL give you the desires of your heart dont just jump into a relationship head on without praying to god and asking him "can i be with this woman/man ? lord if this isnt the one i understand and i'll fully trust you and obey you because i love you" why dont christians do this. Why cant we wait on god ? why do we seek our own will and not his the one who gave us his son and life?
@ ~ Kiwi_OT
I said i would reply
Your have to forgive my life-less comment.
I responded to your attitude and choise of word's. Being my assumption that you were a Christian Woman, with a level of insight on such matters.
"(I come here and listen to all the stories men (sorry, no I'll call them boys) have to say about themselves and how I always (not me specifically but generally) get asked 'how can I get a girlfriend' and 'why cant I get a girlfriend'.
So many good Christian women are waiting.. And waiting.. And waiting.. And theyre upset at the quality of men - Christian men. The decent ones are out there but but they are rare and they themselves are struggling against the tide of idiots out there and are tired of cleaning up the mess they leave behind.
But I feel theres more to be done. Ive realised those idiots are Gods son's too. I feel like theyre idiots because theyve got all the good equipment to get going..)"
I can see you have some valid point's. I'm not here to bash you or insult you. I've read your original post & have to say, befor getting through the rest of your post.
It's belittling more than provoking, insulting rather than loving.
I can see you mean well & encouraging growth ~ As a (None Perfect) self respecting Christian guy: Without going into detail, people of the Spirit should be Spiritually ready for Relationships.
Like praying for your future husband or wife on a daily basis, that God would bless them, and cultivate in them just the right qualities that will complement you.
Pray for wisdom, guidance, purity and understanding as the Lord leads you in dating/courting relationships.
Thank the Lord in advance that He will provide for all your needs (Phil 4:19; Psalms 37:4).
Alan..
Come on now Kingdom!
Then there's the problem of women
There seem's to be alot of Christian women who go about the fact that they can't find any decent single Christian men our there. And alot of Chistian guy's feel the same way about women.
You don't want to date a nonbeliever. You don't want to sleep around, but you do have strong desires and needs, too. Our culture tells you that it's all right, that it's the thing to do. Men's magazines turn it into a game. But you know better. But you know the Truth.
We Christian's have a faithful helper in the Holy Spirit. We have God's Word, the Bible, to guide us in making right decisions. We have the support of our pastor, and our church family. And we have Jesus. Nobody understands like Jesus..
Its all good relax!
Then there's the problem of women
There seem's to be alot of Christian women who go about the fact that they can't find any decent single Christian men our there. And alot of Chistian guy's feel the same way about women.
You don't want to date a nonbeliever. You don't want to sleep around, but you do have strong desires and needs, too. Our culture tells you that it's all right, that it's the thing to do. Men's magazines turn it into a game. But you know better. But you know the Truth.
We Christian's have a faithful helper in the Holy Spirit. We have God's Word, the Bible, to guide us in making right decisions. We have the support of our pastor, and our church family. And we have Jesus. Nobody understands like Jesus..
Its all good relax!
K
I think it's pretty appalling that Kiwi_OT has received offensive messages from men on this subject, I disagreed but I did it publicly and in a civil way, behave that way and all you do is reinforce a negative sterotype about men that we are all immature and incapable of mature discussion, let's not go that way PLEASE!.
That said the opening post did come across a little harsh, it read like tough love and it was basically telling men on here to just grow up, the hostile reactions aren't justified but I can understand why some guys were offended as a more delicate approach generally avoids the hurt but retains the message.
I think there's something for everyone to learn from this.
That said the opening post did come across a little harsh, it read like tough love and it was basically telling men on here to just grow up, the hostile reactions aren't justified but I can understand why some guys were offended as a more delicate approach generally avoids the hurt but retains the message.
I think there's something for everyone to learn from this.
I am tough love. Im tough love with my girlfriends and Im tough love with my guy friends. Believe or not, my boyfriend and friends do think Im a very kind and gentle person. I just chose not to be gentle this time.
Ive noticed 3 types of guys in this thread. One being a man who can take constructive criticism, accept it, can disagree or compromise respectfully, is humble yet still shows backbone. Then theres the male who gets overly defensive and angry and tries to throw it back to justify their position and put down the other person because they cant handle a little rebuke. Then theres the male who is just plain abusive and remind me of the type of man who when frustrated likes to kick people and animals in private and think they can get away with it.
What is wrong with telling 20-30 year old boys who dont want to grow up yet whine about lack of females to grow up?
Those of you, who have made the effort to grow as a man under Christ, you have nothing to hide. You have no reason to be defensive with me. You can give me loving constructive critism back by all means. Matthew and Ironic are the only ones who have done this. I respect that so much. If you are defensive and angry towards me and sending me abusive mail - ask yourself why. Because your only proving my point that men out there need to mature.
Timing is everything. Guys here have "Oh but what about girls - their just as bad!!" Well hello.. We're all sinners here joining under the love of Christ. As I tell tons of women and girls, you teach people how to treat you. If your dating history shows men/women being inconsiderate to you, what kind of behaviour are you allowing exactly?
I wouldnt even bother doing the rebuking. Older godly men are to rebuke and correct younger men and teach them. How can they do that if a guy isnt even going to church? Older women are to do the same for girls. And one piece of advice I always tell girls - stay well away from a guy who enjoys criticising yet cant handle and improve from an honest rebuke himself. For guys I say, if a woman enjoys gossiping with her girlfriends more than being open and honest with you - run for your life and keep looking and praying.
I want to change my tack a bit here. Lets change the topic. Im a female, and I know all about females obviously so I shall regress from giving male advice (despite its good intentions). Does any guy here have a question about maybe how to get a certain girl theyre trying to pursue? Or maybe men would like to know all the litle subtle feminisms we ladies do which you just dont have a darn clue about and want to learn and get confidence. I love my brothers in Christ so lets help each other a bit.
J
It is our Human Nature to be proud, not meek. Only the spirit of God can transform our lives through the new birth experience and then make us over again into the images of christ, our example of what pleases God in the way of meekness.
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth Matthew 5:5
When life brings you to your knees remember you are in the perfect position to pray!
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth Matthew 5:5
When life brings you to your knees remember you are in the perfect position to pray!
K
Kiwi are you one of these ladies?
Dont get me wrong I love my skirts and I do like to protect myself from getting sunburnt and I do have pretty dainty feet but thats where the similarities end.
Or do they...?
Hehehehehe
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Kiwi are you one of these ladies?
