For the men: So you want a gf/wife huh?

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alanwrench

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I find your post to be demeaning, belittling and inciting. Most men are hard workers and responsible, ideal for a lifetime relationship.

Women are the gatekeepers to relationships. They have the power to allow or deny any social contact that would lead to dating and marraige.

If they are open minded, supportive and respectful, they will fnd that good men are easy to attract and KEEP.
 
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FireWire

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#82
Well I'm a kiwi and I'm not at all surprised by this attitude and it doesn't differ if they're christian or non-christian. In my experience they're difficult to deal with and fly off the handle at even trivial things. The government has said we have one the lowest birthrates in the OECD and that women in this country are increasingly abusing children. I guess this is no longer the Godzone it once was.

For the record I've had one relationship and got cheated on and it was recently.
 
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ChristianGuru

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#83
For the record I've had one relationship and got cheated on and it was recently.
Don't let that stop you from moving on. I waited to long to enter my second relationship after my first one. I realized the pain of relationship 2 calmed the internal storm of relationship 1.
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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#84
Don't let that stop you from moving on. I waited to long to enter my second relationship after my first one. I realized the pain of relationship 2 calmed the internal storm of relationship 1.
i agree totally, when i entered into relationship number 387, it was just a mess. I was so upset from relationship number 290 that i couldnt really give my all to number 387. So what ended up happening was i dumped 387 for 290, but then came along 110, and i was head over heals for him! So i said goodbye to 290 and now im happily with 110!
 

DinoDillinger

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Let's not pretend that there are alot of good christian women out there.

Proverbs 31:10 Who can find a virtuous wife? For her worth is far above rubies.

Didn't read the whole thread but I saw someone mentioned those qualities taking years to form. I heard a sermon where the preacher stated that puberty is the sign that you are supposed to put away childish things and start becoming a man, makes sense to me. Ofcourse our fathers' failures to prepare most men today in western society leaves us who come to a knowledge of the truth at a bit of a disadvantage. Nevertheless, we who are called by His name now have a perfect teacher :)

Oh yea Snail, I think christian men are just as likely to fall for worldy women(they call themselves christians) who seek out christian men because they know they will be treated better by christians than their worldy counterparts.

I'm very curious to see this thread done for the ladies, considering that it is going to be done by a young woman. Considering that it seems to me some of the most attractive qualities that you would hope for in a christian woman are some of the least found in younger women.
 
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ChristianGuru

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#86
i agree totally, when i entered into relationship number 387, it was just a mess. I was so upset from relationship number 290 that i couldnt really give my all to number 387. So what ended up happening was i dumped 387 for 290, but then came along 110, and i was head over heals for him! So i said goodbye to 290 and now im happily with 110!
Hope this isn't ridicule.
 
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Trunks

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I didn't read much of the other replies, but I seem destined to be single. I used to be married, got married for the wrong reason, and I paid the price for not waiting on God. So now, unless otherwise guided, I'm not even gonna assume that the right woman is out there. Plus, its easier to do God's work when you don't have to get permission. LOL
 
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jonnoboy

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#88
I have to be honest Kiwi, you like me are 21 and dont really have much of a knowledge on relationships, who are we to comment on people who are older than ourselves, we have lack of experiene i know u are not judging people and mean the best but perhaps we shud just listen to people rather than make our own comments on other people, i enjoy listening and giving advice where i can although as we havent exactly experienced everything there may be some parts we are better at, i hope i havent come accross as rude i just wanted to tell u thats all, please write back if u want to
 
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Lifelike

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Wow, I was really impressed with what you had to say. I've been the guy on here who's been calling out guys much like you have. I was strongly agreeing with you all the way up until the parts that I've put in bold. This is wear you got really personal about how you feel. Most of what I've put in bold is blatant condemnation. If God felt this way about any of us, regardless of whatever our weaknesses are, we'd all be on our way to hell right now. Thank God, he died on the cross for our sins, so we could repent them. Men are far too condemned about the things you've said, that I've made bold.

We should apologize? I'm not apologizing for nothing and if you or any other woman don't like it... I'll find a woman who does. I or we don't need to qualify ourselves to anyone. I have laughed at fat girls growing up. It's like when women rank guys, what's the difference. I do check out pictures of women. I stop to look at that woman on the cover of magazines at newstands. That's why marketers put them there, because they know men are going to want to look and that means $$ in their pocket. If I still do what I want in life? What? Every man should. If I still question what I want in life? Doesn't everyone? It's common to ponder where one should go next. People often break vows when they realize they made it for the wrong reason. I don't need to fix anything to be worthy of a relationship with a woman, because I answer to a higher father, our father. You tell guys that and they'll always feel unworthy of a woman. I think this is exactly why the guys on here are always crying and complaining in the first place. Condemnation.
Nice, very cool article, that gets the heart of the issue! Really enjoyed it! Totaly agreed except maybe the statement "However, men were assigned by God to be leaders and women advisors." But thats another topic... :D
 
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kiwi_OT

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I have to be honest Kiwi, you like me are 21 and dont really have much of a knowledge on relationships, who are we to comment on people who are older than ourselves, we have lack of experiene i know u are not judging people and mean the best but perhaps we shud just listen to people rather than make our own comments on other people, i enjoy listening and giving advice where i can although as we havent exactly experienced everything there may be some parts we are better at, i hope i havent come accross as rude i just wanted to tell u thats all, please write back if u want to
That is very true jonnoboy, I am not happy that people are making the assumption that I think Im a know all because I dont. Since Ive written this Ive recieved a rediculous amount of abusive mail from guys about this thread, using language I do not want to say out loud.
The thing that I failed to mention was probably a bit about myself, so people understand who I am, where I come from and how I came to have these opinions. Im too tired to write out my complicated testimony so if you want to know more about me I suggest you go onto my profile page and find my very first thread which I did on my testimony way back in September when I first joined.
The first thing is this. I was raised under strict British values where there is no such thing as the term teenager. Growing up I understood there to be either child or adult. I was taught how to cook and clean and maintain a household from age 6. By the time I was 10, I was doing all the cooking and cleaning. At age 13 I was molested by my stepfather and remained tormented by having such a guardian (who was emotionally abusive) until I left home when I was 17. During that time I became a christian and had a christian psychologist reteach me everything I thought I knew about a woman and a mans role under God. In my second to last year of highschool, I decided I wanted to help other christian women get out of that same situation I was raised in. So I applied and got into college to be an occupational therapist. But because I failed my 6th form exams I had to redo those as well as my senoir exams as well as college entry exams all while going to school and working every second night at a grocery store while living with a man who treated me like a second wife.
So excuse me for thinking Ive gone through a lot more in life than your average 21 year old. Ive witnessed how bad men can get, yet Ive realised their the ones who need help. I feel like men mess up because theyve been lied to, misinformed and accused by the enemy. I became an adult when I was 13. And if it werent for Jesus I would be a very sorrowful messed up woman. I love Jesus SO much! I love him because through him I was taught how a man is really supposed to treat a woman, and how a woman is to love her Lord first and that overflow then goes to become a blessing on the man she chooses to love and serve.

I have been very tired of listening to some guys here on CC who ask me why cant they get a girlfriend and I ask them the most basic questions like, whats your relationship with Jesus like? Do you pray, do you study the Word, do you make an effort to apply it in your life? How do you treat your mother and sister/s (boy that question tells you a lot about a guy). I ask these things and the answers I get are all in the negative! If you do make an effort in your relationship with God then hurrah! Go the men! Im your biggest fan! If not, I will speak plainly and tell you youve got a bit of work to do. Theres no moral high ground here its just spiritual common sense that Ive clicked onto a lot faster than others. I know I talk too much, but really, witholding common sense just because Im a woman and engaged and 21 years old is just a sin.

Lastly, just because your older doesnt mean your necessarily wiser. Look at Timothy. Here is a young man in his early twenties being filled with the Holy Spirit and sent forth by Paul to maintain multiple churches. A 20 year old was commanded to make doctrine clear to older men! Paul said to him - Do not let people look down on your because you are young, but instead lead by example. Im sorry that none of the guys here know my life. I am sorry that no one here knows me enough to trust what Im saying as worthwhile. And I am even more sorry that men here cant see me also trying my darn hardest to help younger women to be better women for the sake of Jesus and for the sake of men out there, who are genuinely looking hard for a fine women and arent having much luck due to some negative attitudes women have. Its a tough world, and Ive been physically beaten up more in my 21 years than to be put off by verbal insults and hate mail by men I dont know. And it doesnt discourage me at all. Ive been conditioned by God to always see the bright side of human life despite my painful history, and someone has to yell the ugly truth every now and then. Its called discernment.

PS I love you all lol
 
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DABEARS85

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#91
Kiwi... if guys are sending you private messages using bad language and all of that... you honestly should report them. That is really uncalled for! I know we have disagreed in this thread, but I sure don't devalue you as a person nor got angry at you! We just had different opinions... so I'm kind of wondering where these other guys find it acceptable to send you messages in your inbox and threaten/insult you? I think you should either report them or block them if that is possible? I dunno.. I just know that isn't cool in my book. You stated your opinion, and it's fine to get opinions back in the thread.. but I don't think people should be insulting or use foul language to you for giving your thoughts....
 
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kiwi_OT

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#92
Kiwi... if guys are sending you private messages using bad language and all of that... you honestly should report them. That is really uncalled for! I know we have disagreed in this thread, but I sure don't devalue you as a person nor got angry at you! We just had different opinions... so I'm kind of wondering where these other guys find it acceptable to send you messages in your inbox and threaten/insult you? I think you should either report them or block them if that is possible? I dunno.. I just know that isn't cool in my book. You stated your opinion, and it's fine to get opinions back in the thread.. but I don't think people should be insulting or use foul language to you for giving your thoughts....

Thankyou for your concern DABEARS I really appreciate it, and I really do like your thoughts cos Ive seen what youve written on other threads and agree with them.

One case I got 3 abusive messages on the same day by 3 different male users. I reported it to a moderator and they got banned obviously, but I was wondering if someone knew this and just created new accounts if they knew they would be banned. I dunno... I have very much respected those opinions that disagree with mine, but guys who do such things in such a cowardly way really just prove my point that guys need help lol.
 
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jonnoboy

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Hello, Kiwi, thanks for the reply.....firstly apologies if i came accross as rude, thats not what i meant actually i regret replyin to you thread cos i know where u r comin from...I would like to persoanlly thank you for being honest with me and telling me about your personal life I am sorry for your expericences but I can bet it has made you a better perosn for it...hasnt it? May the lord continue bless you and seriously i hope i havent come accross as a bad chrsitan to you....we are all learning.... ;)

I pray that you continue to florish under God's work...he has made you a truely remarkable person and your young age to......I realsie you are at a much more advanced stage on God's marvalous journy than what i ever will be....God bless you kiwi


Love

Your new friend Jonno

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jonnoboy

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I agree with this dude aswell Kiwi, I hoe i didtn come accross as one of these people i apologies if i did :)


Kiwi... if guys are sending you private messages using bad language and all of that... you honestly should report them. That is really uncalled for! I know we have disagreed in this thread, but I sure don't devalue you as a person nor got angry at you! We just had different opinions... so I'm kind of wondering where these other guys find it acceptable to send you messages in your inbox and threaten/insult you? I think you should either report them or block them if that is possible? I dunno.. I just know that isn't cool in my book. You stated your opinion, and it's fine to get opinions back in the thread.. but I don't think people should be insulting or use foul language to you for giving your thoughts....
 
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kiwi_OT

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Hello, Kiwi, thanks for the reply.....firstly apologies if i came accross as rude, thats not what i meant actually i regret replyin to you thread cos i know where u r comin from...I would like to persoanlly thank you for being honest with me and telling me about your personal life I am sorry for your expericences but I can bet it has made you a better perosn for it...hasnt it? May the lord continue bless you and seriously i hope i havent come accross as a bad chrsitan to you....we are all learning.... ;)

I pray that you continue to florish under God's work...he has made you a truely remarkable person and your young age to......I realsie you are at a much more advanced stage on God's marvalous journy than what i ever will be....God bless you kiwi


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Your new friend Jonno

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No no no dont apologise! lol
Your post made me realise how little people knew about me and therefore I probably did come off as a self righteous annoying female.
Thankyou for what you said, but I am just a normal woman who loves God so much. I'll be honest though and say I do feel old. I have gone through a lot of things that people in their twenties + cant even imagine.
My partner is nearly 12 years older than me. Yes that sounds innappropriate to most, but my family and his both agree that in the age and maturity sense we match each other well. Even though he has 12 years more life experience than me, I know he loves me and has chosen me as his future wife because I can connect with him emotionally, spiritually and intellectually at the same level. I respect him greatly as the leader in our relationship and I know how much he makes the effort to ask my advice and prayers and be peacemaking and honest with me and apply it and I feel very wonderful as a woman that such a man considers me wise for my age. Dont get me wrong, I still make mistakes, and he in turn gently rebukes me where I have gone wrong, and I listen to him and I try to be better next time. He knows I can be too blunt sometimes lolol.
 
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Wow lol!
kiwi_OT Online
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Your full of your self KiWi_OT..

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kiwi_OT

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Wow lol!
kiwi_OT Online
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Your full of your self KiWi_OT..

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Well IronicC
Thankyou for your thorough and thought provoking investigations into my character and beyond.. Yes, I fully know myself. I know the gifts and talents and weaknesses I have under Gods authority. I am full of knowing that I am a daughter of God and servant of Christ. I am full to overflowing of Gods grace in my life. And I fully know that I am beloved and protected from insults and beatings. I am happily full of the living water breathed in me.

You seem to be a bit empty my friend. Maybe its you who should be full of something
 

Sharp

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Kiwi sorry for flooding your inbox with racist and sexist messages, I didn't have my apple juice this afternoon so I was a bit angry
 
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kiwi_OT

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#99
LOLOLOL

Aussies... I should have known... lololol
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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I agree Kiwi, i thought his comments were very insightful. My whole views and opinions on dating have changed now!