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The first of God’s seven annual festivals is the Passover (Leviticus 23:5). Passover falls in early spring, and is a reminder of how God spared His people from death in Egypt. To rescue His people from slavery, God took the lives of all the firstborn Egyptian males (Exodus 12:7, 26-29) but passed over the Israelites’ homes that had the blood of a sacrificed lamb on their door frames.

The blood of the Passover lamb foreshadowed the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, which passes over the sins of people who repent in order to spare them from eternal death. The New Testament makes clear that Christ is the true Passover Lamb (compare
Exodus 12:21 with 1 Corinthians 5:7). In observing His last Passover with His disciples, Jesus explained that the symbols of bread and wine represent His body and blood, offered by Him for the forgiveness (or passing over) of our sins and the death penalty our sins have earned for us (Matthew 26:26-28; Mark 14:22-24).


The death of Christ actually took place during the daylight hours that followed the Passover evening—which was still the same date according to Hebrew sunset-to-sunset reckoning. Christ was sacrificed on Passover.

The New Testament Passover is a memorial of the suffering and death of Jesus Christ.

We approach this period of the year with deep spiritual introspection.

Christians who observe this annual memorial marking Jesus’ death (
1 Corinthians 11:26) are reminded that eternal life is possible only through Him (John 6:47-54; Acts 4:10-12).
https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/bible-questions-and-answers/why-should-christians-celebrate-the-passover
“What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard,
and what no human mind has conceived”[SUP][b][/SUP]—
the things God has prepared for those who love him—

[SUP]10 [/SUP]these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. [SUP]12 [/SUP]What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. [SUP]13 [/SUP]This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.[SUP][c][/SUP] [SUP]14 [/SUP]The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. [SUP]15 [/SUP]The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, [SUP]16 [/SUP]for,
“Who has known the mind of the Lord
so as to instruct him?”[SUP][d][/SUP]

But we have the mind of Christ....
We can know every word ever written but if we don't live in the heart of God, the are meaningles...words are only important in so far as leading us as surrendering our will to Him...if Jesus chose the smartest and most knowledgeable, He would have chosen the pharisees, they knew everything but didn't live in the heart of God...rather He chose fishermen, tax collectors and the more lowly and qualified them by teaching love and faith.
 

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We can know every word ever written but if we don't live in the heart of God, the are meaningles...words are only important in so far as leading us as surrendering our will to Him...if Jesus chose the smartest and most knowledgeable, He would have chosen the pharisees, they knew everything but didn't live in the heart of God...rather He chose fishermen, tax collectors and the more lowly and qualified them by teaching love and faith.
I still do not understand your complaint about this thread, or why you feel
you must come to this thread to complain in the first place. What do you
hope to accomplish? Are you trying to call us pharisees? I don't get it.

Now I am aware that you are a person who likes to use words a lot, I see
you have quite a lot a lot a LOT of poems in the poetry section, I do not even
have to go there now to see this, anyone who has ever been there the last
few months knows you have a multitude of threads there. Yet here you are,
complaining about us, using words to discuss words, as if they in themselves
somehow separate us from the love of God, the Truth of God, the very Word
of God, when that is what we are discussing, quite civilly for the most part.

Do you think that complaining about this thread is loving on your part?
Do you think you were chosen of God and we were not? Really, what is it?
 
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How about 1st century historians.... do they list the year or date the crucifixion took place? Maybe Justin Martyr, or Josephus?

I need to study more....:eek:
Quite dicey for sure though in all four gospels points to the day of preparation the day before the sabbath which upon reading
John 19:31 that Saturday was as well a (high sabbath).

John 19:31 King James Bible
The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

Thus crucified on a Friday (Matt. 27:62, Mark 15:42; Luke23:54; John 19:42), just before a Sabbath, which was just before the first day of the week (Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1).

We know that it was a Friday because it is referred to as "the day of preparation" that is, the day on which Jews made the preparations they needed for the Sabbath, since they could not do any work on that day. Thus cooked food in advance and made other necessary preparations.
 

hornetguy

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Quite dicey for sure though in all four gospels points to the day of preparation the day before the sabbath which upon reading
John 19:31 that Saturday was as well a (high sabbath).

John 19:31 King James Bible
The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

Thus crucified on a Friday (Matt. 27:62, Mark 15:42; Luke23:54; John 19:42), just before a Sabbath, which was just before the first day of the week (Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1).

We know that it was a Friday because it is referred to as "the day of preparation" that is, the day on which Jews made the preparations they needed for the Sabbath, since they could not do any work on that day. Thus cooked food in advance and made other necessary preparations.
Everything you said appears to be correct, except for missing the part of there being two Sabbaths that week. The high Sabbath was the Pesach, or Passover Sabbath.. and pinpointing the day of the week that that "high" Sabbath fell on is the crux of this discussion. So there was the high Sabbath of Passover, and the normal, weekly Sabbath that happened every Saturday.

There would be two days of preparation, one for each Sabbath... the Passover Sabbath fell on Nisan 14/15, which is determined (as explained so well earlier in the thread by Magenta) by the vernal equinox. This means that it could fall on nearly any day of the week, depending on when the equinox was.

Actually, I think that there were/are two Sabbaths for Passover, one at the start, and one at the end of the 7 days of that event. I could very well be wrong about that, though... If that is the case, then there would have been three Sabbaths in a 7 day period of time, with the normal, weekly Sabbath in between the two Passover Sabbaths.
 

hornetguy

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Ok.... Now I'm really confused..

Read Luke chapter 22.. I just did, and it throws a wrench into this whole discussion....
 

hornetguy

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Ok.... Now I'm really confused..

Read Luke chapter 22.. I just did, and it throws a wrench into this whole discussion....
Ok... false alarm. I just haven't had enough coffee yet, this morning....

carry on....
 
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Ok.... Now I'm really confused..

Read Luke chapter 22.. I just did, and it throws a wrench into this whole discussion....
There's many head scratchers lol..

I haven't read not yet at least, That the Jewish people had a Passover meal with a high sabbath. There are seven of them but I just haven't been able to find anything on whether the had a Passover meal with each annual sabbath.

Gees It's a whole lot of preparing, eating, celebrating, high this, unleavened bread, Passover and a ton more I can't keep up with all that and try to fit all that in a week. IMO I think folks want to get the 3 days and 3 nights and have it line up to 72 hours.

Here's what clues me into it not being a 72 hour time frame. Jesus died on the cross at 3pm ninth hour, there was 3 hours left in that day so we can't just throw that to the side. those three hours have to be included. So regardless of what day it was a full 72 hours after death places the resurrection shorty after or on at 3pm 9th hour three days later. Can flubb that if a person wants it to be exactly 72 hours later. If it was 3pm Wednesday, Thursday 3 pm is first 24 hours, Friday 3pm second day is 48 hours, Saturday at 3pm is 72 hours and so on.

Matthew 26:17
On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Where do you want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?"

Mark 14:12
On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover lamb was to be sacrificed, Jesus' disciples asked Him, "Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?"
 

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I still do not understand your complaint about this thread, or why you feel
you must come to this thread to complain in the first place. What do you
hope to accomplish? Are you trying to call us pharisees? I don't get it.

Now I am aware that you are a person who likes to use words a lot, I see
you have quite a lot a lot a LOT of poems in the poetry section, I do not even
have to go there now to see this, anyone who has ever been there the last
few months knows you have a multitude of threads there. Yet here you are,
complaining about us, using words to discuss words, as if they in themselves
somehow separate us from the love of God, the Truth of God, the very Word
of God, when that is what we are discussing, quite civilly for the most part.

Do you think that complaining about this thread is loving on your part?
Do you think you were chosen of God and we were not? Really, what is it?
First of all, I was not nor am I now complaining...simply I am saying there is a higher way than feeding the mind and not growing in the Spirit, I am not saying I am higher or better than anyone else; I am not God but neither am I other than God...I post what I post not to accuse or to put myself over all, that is not the case, I post it to share what God has given to me...again this is not an accusation but yes it is possible to be a third millennium pharisee but that is not for me to judge, that is for each individual to search their hearts and come up with their own conclusion. In short I posted one little line and truly I didn't realise I'd still be talking about it today. I cherish God, I love being alive and I love the people here and I love you. Please don't take me as an enemy just because I don't follow the status quo. Remember Jesus got killed for not following the status quo.
 

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Here's some more Scripture I found that lend credence to the grave or belly of the earth started when Jesus was delivered by the High Priest and the rulers(elders) to Pilate because, He had no form or comeliness; no beauty to be desired, despised, rejected, sorrowful, grieved, not esteem, smitten, chastised, wounded, bruised, affiliated, sorrowful, whipped, judged, imprisoned, slaughtered, stricken, silenced, took our iniquity, was cut off, His grave was with the wicked, with the rich at His death, had done no violence, nodeceit in His mouth. He made intercession, an offering for sin, prolonged His days, justified many, poured out His soul unto death, numbered with the transgressors, bore the sin of many, for the transgressors, seen the labor of His soulbeing satisfied, became author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.”

Isaiah 53:1-12 (abridged) Hebrews 12:2

Here's Scripture that helps understand a Thursday crucifixion. Luke 24:13-24 "
Now behold, two of them were traveling that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was seven miles from Jerusalem. 14 And they talked together of all these things which had happened. 15 So it was, while they conversed and reasoned, that Jesus Himself drew near and went with them. 16 But their eyes were restrained, so that they did not know Him.17 And He said to them, “What kind of conversation is this that you have with one another as you walk and are sad?”

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Then the one whose name was Cleopas answered and said to Him, “Are You the only stranger in Jerusalem, and have You not known the things which happened there in these days?”



And He said to them, “What things?”


So they said to Him, “The things concerning Jesus of Nazareth, who was a Prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people, 20 and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to be condemned to death, and crucified Him. 21 But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, today is the third day since these things happened. 22 Yes, and certain women of our company, who arrived at the tomb early, astonished us. 23 When they did not find His body, they came saying that they had also seen a vision of angels who said He was alive. 24 And certain of those who were with us went to the tomb and found it just as the women had said; but Him they did not see.”


He was handed over to Pilate at 6am on Thursday and He rose three days later at 6am. I'm open to any feed back, I was a Wednesday believer but it always bothered me because of the added 12 hours.

 

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BeyondET,
re: "Matthew 26:17 On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, 'Where do you want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?' "

re: "Mark 14:12 On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover lamb was to be sacrificed, Jesus' disciples asked Him, 'Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?'"
 

prove-all,
re: " Leviticus 23:6 tells us that the first day of Unleavened Bread is on the 15th."
 
There seems to be a disconnect between Matthew/Mark and Leviticus.
 

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I've seen that as well, the intriguing thing is, a lot of folks claim to know the exact day it was, they say Wednesday or Thursday or what ever. Yet no one claims to know how old Jesus was at the time of crucification nor at what date He was born.

Some say He was 33 years old, some say He was born at 4 BC and so on.

It tickles me with all the claims of exact day of... Yet none can explain a simple thing as how old He was or when He was born.
Might shake a few paradigms but Christ was born the 15th of the Seventh biblical month, 3 BCE...His ministry began when he was 29 about to turn 30 in 27 CE...and it lasted 70 weeks (490 days) from leaving the wilderness, to ascending to heaven, so he died in 28 CE at 30 years old:


1. By biblical reckoning of time, the “birth year” of a person IS “year 1” of that person. There was no such thing as a child younger than 1 year old (no “week olds”, “month olds”, etc) in biblical times. When you were born you were considered a yearling (of the 1st year).

Also, there is no such thing as a “year zero” when counting between BCE and CE…these facts are important when counting back Christ's years of life to his birth year.



2.
Luke 3:23
“And Jesus himself began to be about (ōsei) thirty years of age being as was supposed the son of Joseph which was the son of Heli”

The Greek word for “about” is “Peri”, which means “about; perimeter (of any size)”. However, the Greek word used in the above passage is “ōsei”, which is a specific (Greek) mathematical term meaning “nearing but before the point of (in order)”.

So Christ himself began nearing but before the point of thirty years of age when his ministry began.


3. The 15th year of the Tiberius Caesar of Rome is the same year John & Christ began their ministries.

Luke 3:1
“Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene, (2) Annas and Caiaphas being the high priests, the word of God came unto John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness. (3) And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;”


4. The 15 year of Tiberius Caesar was during the year 26/27 CE

The 2nd Jewish Temple began its reconstruction in 19 BCE, as recorded by the historian Josephus. Next the passage John 2:20 says, “Then said the Jews, Forty and six years [46 years] was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days!?”

19 BCE + 46 years = 27 CE

So Christ was 29 years old about to turn 30 years old in 27 CE.


5. 27CE – 27 years = 1 BCE (because there is no “zero year”)

1 BCE – 2 more years (because Christ was 29 during his ministry) = 3BCE The year when Christ was born (yearling; 1 year old).


6. 3/2BCE was the 25th Year of the Reign of Caesar Augustus when he decreed that Rome name him pater patriae (Father of the Country), a title which must be voted by all of his subjects through registration. (Res Gestae #35; Who was Who in Roman Times :Life and deeds of Augustus by Augustus).


Luke 2:1-2
“And it came to pass in those days that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed (apographesthai)”.

English translations of the above passage are in error, because the Greek word for “taxation census” is “Forologia”, but the Greek word used in this passage is a variation of the word “Apographó”, meaning “enrollment; registration”.

So this confirms Christ was born year 3 BCE because Joseph and Mary left for his home town to register.


7. His ministry lasted only 70 weeks (490 days)

Using the gospel of John and knowing that Christ was COMPLETELY obedient to ALL of the father's commands, we can navigate through a translation error in the text with regard to the feast days mentioned.

God commanded all "able-bodied" males who are in the land to attend the feasts. The feasts occur in this order:
1st Month - Feast of Unleavened Bread (& Passover)
3rd Month - Feast of Shavuot (Pentecost)
7th Month - Feast of Sukkot (Tabernacles)
7th Month (22nd) - Last Great Day
9th Month - Feast of Dedications

Again Christ was COMPLETELY obedient to his father's commands.

Now, here's the gospel of John:

John 2:13 - Passover (& Feast) at hand - Messiah goes to Jerusalem
John 2:23 - Passover begins (definitely 1st Month)
John 5:1 - "Another" Feast (likely Shavuot in 3rd month) - Messiah goes to Jerusalem

John 6:1 - "After these [teachings] [Messiah] went over the sea of Galilee"
John 6:2 - "And a great multitude followed him...[to Gailee]"
John 6:3 - "And [Messiah] went up into a mountain."

John 6:4 - "Passover, a feast of the Jews was nigh" - 1st Month again!?


If this passage is true, Christ did NOT obey his father's command to go up to every feast. So this Christ is a sinner. Instead he stays in a mountain? Also, what did the Messiah do between months 4 - 12 of the previous year? Did he feed the multitude for 9 months? NONE of the other gospels say anything about this gap in time and EVERY other feast passage in John is supported by other passages around it. Everyone is completely silent here. Not to mention, Christ fed the multitude regular bread (artos) not unleavened bread (azumos), so Christ didn't even acknowledge Unleavened bread feast at all. Christ goes up to every single feast as commanded by God...except this one.


John 6:5 - "And when [Messiah] lifted up his eyes he saw a Great Multitude..." Feeds them
John 7:2...7:14 - Feast of Tabernacles (definitely 7th month) - Messiah goes to feast in secret
John 7:37 - Last Great Day (definitely 7th month; 22nd day)
John 10:23 - Feast of Dedications (definitely 9th mo. & winter) - Messiah goes to Jerusalem

John 10:40 - Messiah went to Jordan where he was baptisted and stays there for a time
John 11:18 - Messiah goes to Bethany (Near Jerusalem) to resurrect Lazarus

John 11:55 - Jews Passover is (again) nigh and many went to Jerusalem (definitely 1st Month again)
John 12:1 - 6 days before Passover, Messiah went back to Bethany and is annointed w/oil for his death
John 12:12 - Much people came to the feast (of Passover) - still 1st Month
John 19:21 - Christ's Trial and sentencing for crucifixion


"1st, 3rd, 1st, 7th, 7th, 9th...1st,..."



The only passage that doesn't fit in God's chronological feast pattern is John 6:4; the ONLY passage in ALL 4 gospels that has this 9 month gap in time. But when we remove it, we have Christ's ministry lasting from 40 days in the wilderness to the 1st Passover, to the next Passover when he is crucified 1 year later. Then he resurrects and stays with his disciples until he ascends to heaven 10 days before Pentecost occurring in the 3rd month.

40 (wilderness) + 360 (year) + 90 (3 months) = 490 days (70 weeks)




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So putting all of this together, Christ was crucified at 30 years old in 28 CE
 
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I'm curious... on what day do you guys and gals think that the crucifixion took place?

I've always thought it was on Friday, but recent reading and contemplation makes me wonder if it was actually Thursday?

Is there any concrete evidence when the Passover Sabbath was, in the year he was crucified?

And... for the record, to me this is NOT a salvation issue... to me, the salvation issue is THAT he was crucified, and rose again.
You can find a section on this subject in a blog I did Here
 

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BeyondET,
re: "Matthew 26:17 On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, 'Where do you want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?' "

re: "Mark 14:12 On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover lamb was to be sacrificed, Jesus' disciples asked Him, 'Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?'"
 

prove-all,
re: " Leviticus 23:6 tells us that the first day of Unleavened Bread is on the 15th."
 
There seems to be a disconnect between Matthew/Mark and Leviticus.
I see a little bit of confusion as to when the actual "Passover" is. I've read that it is Nisan 15 in the Jewish calendar. The Passover lamb is to be sacrificed on the afternoon of Nisan 14, and cooked for the Passover meal (Seder) that takes place after sundown on that same day.... but since the Jewish days start at sundown, then the meal is actually eaten at the start of Nisan 15. But, it is what we would call the night of Nisan 14.

But the DAY of Nisan 15 is supposed to be the start of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which lasts for 7 days.

This is what makes Mark 14 confusing for me. According to what I've read, the lamb is to be sacrificed in the afternoon on the 14th, which makes it the day before the F of U B....

Research continues...
 

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I see a little bit of confusion as to when the actual "Passover" is. I've read that it is Nisan 15 in the Jewish calendar. The Passover lamb is to be sacrificed on the afternoon of Nisan 14, and cooked for the Passover meal (Seder) that takes place after sundown on that same day.... but since the Jewish days start at sundown, then the meal is actually eaten at the start of Nisan 15. But, it is what we would call the night of Nisan 14.

But the DAY of Nisan 15 is supposed to be the start of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which lasts for 7 days.

This is what makes Mark 14 confusing for me. According to what I've read, the lamb is to be sacrificed in the afternoon on the 14th, which makes it the day before the F of U B....

Research continues...
Yes, I understand your confusion, and the fact that the gospel writers use different hour time measurements and means of counting days does not help matters, which is why it needs to be looked at quite closely to allow the accounts to harmonize in a cohesive comprehensive way :) Originally I was thinking that Passover itself was a Sabbath, but apparently that is not so, as the observance of the Day of Unleavened Bread which follows Passover is the Sabbath, or high holy day.

The term high day or "High Sabbath" is derived from John's description of just which day followed the Messiah's crucifixion and burial:

Since it was the day of Preparation, and so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken and that they might be taken away.
(Joh 19:31 ESV)

The Passover is listed in Leviticus 23 as one of the Feasts of the Lord, but it is not listed as a High or Annual Sabbath like the first and last Days of Unleavened Bread.

However, Passover is arguably the most important day of the year for followers of Messiah Yahshua as it pictures the renewal of our continued acceptance of His covering blood for our sins....and we still have many sins. As John 1 states above, if we do not take the Passover (today the symbolic bread and wine), we have no part of God's people, no part of Christ.

It is plain from the Bible that the Jewish reconing of the timing of Passover is incorrect.

Crucifixion week:
Our Tuesday evening (Sunset started the 14th day of Exodus 10-12) Yeshua ate the Passover at the correct time with His disciples and instituted the bread and wine ceremony as a memorial to His death. That night He was betrayed, arrested, taken to the High Priest's house. The next morning (our Wednesday) very early before the morning sacrifices began at the Temple, He was taken to the Sanhedrin. Peter denied Him, most likely about the time the Temple Criers were calling for the morning sacrifices to begin. (Not a rooster, Read Edershiem's history of the Temple, see the daily morning rituals
http://www.studylight.org/his/bc/edr/tem...

After being shuttled back and forth between Herod and Pilate, He is finally condemned, tortured, and crucified and died on the cross late Wednesday afternoon and was placed in the tomb before the sunset that ended that day. This was the preparation day for the 1st High Sabbath of the year, the first day of Unleavened Bread (Again read the Exodus account and Leviticus 23).

This period of time from sunrise Wednesday to sunset Wednesday is also the preparation day for the High day Sabbath mentioned in John's account.

Night 1
Sunset Wednesday to Sunrise Thursday. The High Day Sabbath, the first day of Unleavened Bread, or the Passover of the Jews, mentioned in John's account (19:31) began at this sunset

Day 1
Sunrise Thursday to sunset Thursday. It is still the High day Sabbath.

Night 2
Sunset Thursday to sunrise Friday began the preparation day for the weekly Sabbath.

Day 2
Sunrise Friday to sunset Friday. This is the daytime portion of the preparation day for the weekly Sabbath, during which the disciple prepared the spices for the final burial of Yeshua.

Night 3
Sunset Friday to sunrise Saturday, the weekly Sabbath began at sunset Friday and the disciples rested according to the commandment.

Day 3
Sunrise Saturday (Sabbath)to just before sunset Saturday (Sabbath), Messiah is resurrected 72 hours after being placed in the grave before the first Holy Day.
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110219080046AAi8T3Q
 

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I'm going with Ruby Tuesday...
 

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I'm going with Ruby Tuesday...
I want to say something about Sunday bloody Sunday but the crucifixion was Wednesday :rolleyes: There is however, Simon and Garfunkel's Wednesday morning 3 am... was that the time of Christ's arrest?
 

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I just googled that - never heard of the song - do you think it has a background in the betrayal of Jesus by Judas?
 

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I just googled that - never heard of the song - do you think it has a background in the betrayal of Jesus by Judas?
I think Paul Simon is Jewish, at least culturally, though he seems not to be religious, instead identifying more as being spiritual; the spiritual realm fascinates him, he said :) He thinks about God a lot... His album from 2011 is called a Christian album :eek: One of his songs starts with the line, "God and His only son paid a courtesy call on Earth one Sunday morning." I saw him live, once, just over ten years ago :) I was gaga over Graceland for many years, but also really loved Rhythm of the Saints, and was disappointed that he played nothing from the latter when he was here :D
 

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I think Paul Simon is Jewish, at least culturally, though he seems not to be religious, instead identifying more as being spiritual; the spiritual realm fascinates him, he said :) He thinks about God a lot... His album from 2011 is called a Christian album :eek: One of his songs starts with the line, "God and His only son paid a courtesy call on Earth one Sunday morning." I saw him live, once, just over ten years ago :) I was gaga over Graceland for many years, but also really loved Rhythm of the Saints, and was disappointed that he played nothing from the latter when he was here :D
Seeing Paul Simon sing is on my bucket list.... great lyricist... I think Jason Mraz channeled Paul Simon a lot....