Seducing spirits and doctrines of demons?
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Fresh Fire USA
Todd Bentley is having a "Miracle healing festival" in Pakistan and raising "seed money".
I don't know the state of anyone's soul. If they will eventually repent of the false Word of Faith doctrine they are teaching.
Jesus rejected people who made religion a commodity item to be sold. Paul warned of people who taught false doctrines and called them clouds without rain, dry wells.
Word of Faith is a false doctrine that promises material gain for seed money. It lies about what the Bible says and promises and has created a false god they worship who is more of a genie than Our Heavenly Father.
We can pray that God will convict all false teachers and bring them to repentance, but we should not defend false teachers.
We can exhort our brothers and sisters to speak with love and stand against false doctrines and not make personal attacks. However, we should not attack them for making their stand known.
We can have hope for the people believing and teaching theses lies, but there is NO HOPE for false doctrines. THEY SHOULD be exposed and revealed to be demonic lies.
God promises spiritual wealth in the form of fruit of the Spirit and godly wisdom. He does NOT promise material wealth or earthly health. HE promises eternal life with Him in New Resurrected bodies. He DOES NOT promise no suffering or troubles on this earth. In fact he told His disciples they would be BEATEN and IMPRISONED.
Jesus says this world is NOT OUR HOME. We,are strangers making our way back to Him. We are His ambassadors and it offends me to see people misuse God's name and fake His power for their own monetary gain.
Todd Bentley is having a "Miracle healing festival" in Pakistan and raising "seed money".
I don't know the state of anyone's soul. If they will eventually repent of the false Word of Faith doctrine they are teaching.
Jesus rejected people who made religion a commodity item to be sold. Paul warned of people who taught false doctrines and called them clouds without rain, dry wells.
Word of Faith is a false doctrine that promises material gain for seed money. It lies about what the Bible says and promises and has created a false god they worship who is more of a genie than Our Heavenly Father.
We can pray that God will convict all false teachers and bring them to repentance, but we should not defend false teachers.
We can exhort our brothers and sisters to speak with love and stand against false doctrines and not make personal attacks. However, we should not attack them for making their stand known.
We can have hope for the people believing and teaching theses lies, but there is NO HOPE for false doctrines. THEY SHOULD be exposed and revealed to be demonic lies.
God promises spiritual wealth in the form of fruit of the Spirit and godly wisdom. He does NOT promise material wealth or earthly health. HE promises eternal life with Him in New Resurrected bodies. He DOES NOT promise no suffering or troubles on this earth. In fact he told His disciples they would be BEATEN and IMPRISONED.
Jesus says this world is NOT OUR HOME. We,are strangers making our way back to Him. We are His ambassadors and it offends me to see people misuse God's name and fake His power for their own monetary gain.
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Bentley got his approval from fake prophets and teachers, AFTER the FL fiasco where he was found to be committing adultery, divorced his wife for no reason other than he wanted a new model, and married his mistress
just throw the Bible out the window
it's all about FRESH revelations
in Bentley's case, he does have that big angel that follows him around and tells him what to do
even an unmasked demon does not thwart some people. they pay the ultimate price for goosebumps
just throw the Bible out the window
it's all about FRESH revelations
in Bentley's case, he does have that big angel that follows him around and tells him what to do
even an unmasked demon does not thwart some people. they pay the ultimate price for goosebumps
It is never about the money or riches itself. It's all a matter of where is your trust? In things or in God? Poor people can be just as covetous as rich people. Poor people can be just as trusting in "things" as rich people can.
It is never about the money or the things themselves. It is all about the trust and where do we find life from.
God richly gives us all things to enjoy but it has to be put in it's proper place.
1 Timothy 6:17-18 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Instruct those who are rich in this present world not to be conceited or to fix their hope on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly supplies us with all things to enjoy.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Instruct them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share,
It is never about the money or the things themselves. It is all about the trust and where do we find life from.
God richly gives us all things to enjoy but it has to be put in it's proper place.
1 Timothy 6:17-18 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Instruct those who are rich in this present world not to be conceited or to fix their hope on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly supplies us with all things to enjoy.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Instruct them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share,
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G777
God didnt WANT people to son, but people still do.
Is being poor or sick God's punishment for disobedience?
No it's a consequence of the Fall of Adam and living in a sinful world.
The opposite taught by WOF is also false.
.God doesn't want you wealthy (in material things and money) nor does He promise you perfect Health in these dying bodies.
God changes what we value (money, power, fame) to be more in line with what He values (love, good works praise and thanksgiving for God's blessings).
I find your posts kind of disturbing,
Yeah p4t goes over the top sometimes, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a point to his warnings.
I don't always like HOW he does it, but I agree that folks need to stand against false doctrines and not make excuses.
.we as God's people need to promote His truth and not sweep it under the rug just because we aren't perfect either.
.yes we arent perfect,but God is...we need to stand for what God has shown us.
God has shown me that greed and "sow money to make money" is a demonic doctrine.
That the false idea that you are sick because "you lack faith" or you need to "speak health into your life" makes God into a genie in a bottle and false idol.
Anyone teaching those things to the world should be rebuked by anyone in the world who claims to know Jesus and not some false idol.
If it was a local congregatuon,then yes..,have the local elders rebuke the preacher.
However, when it spreads and claims to be of God in the name of Jesus....,
When faced with false doctrines and God's truth where will you stand?
God didnt WANT people to son, but people still do.
Is being poor or sick God's punishment for disobedience?
No it's a consequence of the Fall of Adam and living in a sinful world.
The opposite taught by WOF is also false.
.God doesn't want you wealthy (in material things and money) nor does He promise you perfect Health in these dying bodies.
God changes what we value (money, power, fame) to be more in line with what He values (love, good works praise and thanksgiving for God's blessings).
I find your posts kind of disturbing,
Yeah p4t goes over the top sometimes, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a point to his warnings.
I don't always like HOW he does it, but I agree that folks need to stand against false doctrines and not make excuses.
.we as God's people need to promote His truth and not sweep it under the rug just because we aren't perfect either.
.yes we arent perfect,but God is...we need to stand for what God has shown us.
God has shown me that greed and "sow money to make money" is a demonic doctrine.
That the false idea that you are sick because "you lack faith" or you need to "speak health into your life" makes God into a genie in a bottle and false idol.
Anyone teaching those things to the world should be rebuked by anyone in the world who claims to know Jesus and not some false idol.
If it was a local congregatuon,then yes..,have the local elders rebuke the preacher.
However, when it spreads and claims to be of God in the name of Jesus....,
When faced with false doctrines and God's truth where will you stand?
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Another cut and paste G777?
I am pretty sure I read that at least 7 times this week from you.
But I will answer again if I must......
Yes it's about where you place your faith and what you treasure..,,, If a preacher tells people to place their faith in their own words and treasure earthly wealth and riches....is that from God or from Satan?
I am pretty sure I read that at least 7 times this week from you.
But I will answer again if I must......
Yes it's about where you place your faith and what you treasure..,,, If a preacher tells people to place their faith in their own words and treasure earthly wealth and riches....is that from God or from Satan?
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You would be wrong. I have posted that scripture and truth about "it is never about the money." 1 x times in 2017 before today and before that 3 x times in 2016.
Unless you went back throughout my whole time in CC and read those posts - you would be wrong.
And the reality is - I will post about it again if the subject of money comes up....
I have not heard preachers say to have your trust in riches. Perhaps there are some preachers doing that but I don't watch TV so I don't know what all ministers on TV are saying.
I have however heard people say that is what they "think" they are all saying when they heard a minister say that God wants to prosper us "so that" we can be a blessing to others.
Unless you went back throughout my whole time in CC and read those posts - you would be wrong.
And the reality is - I will post about it again if the subject of money comes up....
I have not heard preachers say to have your trust in riches. Perhaps there are some preachers doing that but I don't watch TV so I don't know what all ministers on TV are saying.
I have however heard people say that is what they "think" they are all saying when they heard a minister say that God wants to prosper us "so that" we can be a blessing to others.
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One may wonder why these TV ministries that are obviously fleecing the flock keep getting such an audience. I think it is because they are preying on desperate people, people who probably know in their hearts that it will not work, but who are so desperate that they will try just about anything. I was watching a Duplantis meeting one time when he asked for a show of hands of those who were NOT getting the material blessings he had promised to them, just about everyone in the crowd raised a hand. I think that many of these teachers are going to be horribly surprised when they leave this realm because they used the name of God to take from hurting people what they wanted in this life while offering them empty promises.
Nothing here about earthly riches, wealth, or health. Context, please!
Triumph in Christ
12 When I came to Troas to preach the gospel of Christ, even though a door was opened for me in the Lord, 13 my spirit was not at rest because I did not find my brother Titus there. So I took leave of them and went on to Macedonia.
14 But thanks be to God, who in Christ always leads us in triumphal procession, and through us spreads the fragrance of the knowledge of him everywhere. 15 For we are the aroma of Christ to God among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing, 16 to one a fragrance from death to death, to the other a fragrance from life to life. Who is sufficient for these things? 17 For we are not, like so many, peddlers of God's word, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ.
Nothing here about earthly riches, wealth, or health. Context, please!
10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” 11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” 12 But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.
If you keep dealing with a guy who's off his rockrz, it'll rub off on you.
Triumph in Christ
12 When I came to Troas to preach the gospel of Christ, even though a door was opened for me in the Lord, 13 my spirit was not at rest because I did not find my brother Titus there. So I took leave of them and went on to Macedonia.
14 But thanks be to God, who in Christ always leads us in triumphal procession, and through us spreads the fragrance of the knowledge of him everywhere. 15 For we are the aroma of Christ to God among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing, 16 to one a fragrance from death to death, to the other a fragrance from life to life. Who is sufficient for these things? 17 For we are not, like so many, peddlers of God's word, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ.
Nothing here about earthly riches, wealth, or health. Context, please!
10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” 11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” 12 But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.
If you keep dealing with a guy who's off his rockrz, it'll rub off on you.