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Yeah, that book of the prophesies of Enoch, which Jude quoted from and which was also apart of the scriptures up until the 3rd century AD.
"And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
"And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
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How don't you know that the scripture was taken out of Jude and implanted in this false text? How don't you know it is a complete fabricated lie it was part of scripture "up until the 3rd century AD"?
You think God provided us an incomplete Word, and that you hopped online to amazon and completed it for yourself with the book of enoch? You and the gnostics are in the same company, do you subscribe to those "lost texts" too?
Where do you draw the line, is enoch your only outside source of The Word?
Google will spit out 10 reasons on why ANY of the "lost/hidden" texts of Christianity are authentic and canonical.
You think God provided us an incomplete Word, and that you hopped online to amazon and completed it for yourself with the book of enoch? You and the gnostics are in the same company, do you subscribe to those "lost texts" too?
Where do you draw the line, is enoch your only outside source of The Word?
Google will spit out 10 reasons on why ANY of the "lost/hidden" texts of Christianity are authentic and canonical.
The Nephilim did not have fathers that were angels or demons. The sons (or daughters) of God are God's people. I am a child of God, and my biological father was human- not demon.
If you look at one of the genealogies of Christ, it says "...and Seth the son of Adam, and Adam the son of God" cause God made Adam. When Cain (and his defendants) were exiled to new lands, they became no longer God's people. So when the men of God started marrying these out-land-ish women, it caused a BIG problem. Light (God's people) cannot be one with darkness (worldly/evil people). We are not to yoke ourselves with them (be best friends with them).
Noah and his family were God's people, and the only ones saved from the world-wide flood. Therefore, the entire race of Nephilim giants died/ were wiped out.
If you look at one of the genealogies of Christ, it says "...and Seth the son of Adam, and Adam the son of God" cause God made Adam. When Cain (and his defendants) were exiled to new lands, they became no longer God's people. So when the men of God started marrying these out-land-ish women, it caused a BIG problem. Light (God's people) cannot be one with darkness (worldly/evil people). We are not to yoke ourselves with them (be best friends with them).
Noah and his family were God's people, and the only ones saved from the world-wide flood. Therefore, the entire race of Nephilim giants died/ were wiped out.
Jude must have sat around reading fan fiction because he quotes directly from the book of Enoch which is actually
recognized by the church of Ethiopia together with the Book of Jubilees Copies of Enoch were also discovered with the Dead sea Scrolls. The book of Jasher is also mentioned in the Bible.
The Gnostic writings are entirely different. They were believed to be written around two hundred years after Christ
and they teach many things that are in complete contradiction to the gospels. Their whole theological system is alien to that of Christianity and stems from paganism.
I regard books like Enoch in the same way as I regard any modern Christian book I might read. They are not recognized as scripture by most churches but do contain additional information that is missing from the recognized cannon of Scripture.
recognized by the church of Ethiopia together with the Book of Jubilees Copies of Enoch were also discovered with the Dead sea Scrolls. The book of Jasher is also mentioned in the Bible.
The Gnostic writings are entirely different. They were believed to be written around two hundred years after Christ
and they teach many things that are in complete contradiction to the gospels. Their whole theological system is alien to that of Christianity and stems from paganism.
I regard books like Enoch in the same way as I regard any modern Christian book I might read. They are not recognized as scripture by most churches but do contain additional information that is missing from the recognized cannon of Scripture.
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The 'book of Enoch the seventh from Adam' was a psudepigrapha written in the intertestamental period by an unknown Jewish writer at a time when such pseudepigrapha were relatively common. It was never considered by the Jews nor by the majority of Christian churches to be part of the canon.
It was found along with other books included in one or two Christian manuscripts which also contained part of the Scriptures, which suggested that some few churches held it on a level with them. It was never accepted as such by the whole church .
It was found along with other books included in one or two Christian manuscripts which also contained part of the Scriptures, which suggested that some few churches held it on a level with them. It was never accepted as such by the whole church .
I have a copy of Ethiopic Enoch and it sheds much light on Genesis 6:1-4, as well as the reason for the flood and in fact mentions Noah and the flood. It is also in line with other Biblical information.
You ought to read the information regarding those who are responsible for bringing back these copies of Ethiopic Enoch before making a judgment. The Spirit of God in me agrees with the validity of the prophesies of Enoch.
You ought to read the information regarding those who are responsible for bringing back these copies of Ethiopic Enoch before making a judgment. The Spirit of God in me agrees with the validity of the prophesies of Enoch.
Seth means another in the place of (Abel)
The portion of scripture in mind (Genesis 6 ) is simply showing how believers became yoked with those who have no faith, the froward generation, Adam as that seen .Not the spiritual generation Christ as that not seen. We walk by faith the unseen glory not after the corrupted flesh as that seen. Two different kinds of seeds
Things are created after kinds. Those kinds can procreate within the same kinds. Angels are not formed from the dust. They would be celestial beings. There are both kind of bodies terrestrial of the corrupted flesh as that seen the temporal, and the kind of body not seen celestial, the incorruptible
We understand by faith the unseen glory. It’s not after the temporal DNA seeds (many of men) that we do know Christ but that of the spiritual seed (one Christ).
There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star is different from another star in glory. There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.1Corinthians 15
Hollywood would make them all one as if flesh and blood was spirit.
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also
Hollywood would simply as a tradition of men fall under the Colossians 2 verse below using the imagination of their own hearts seeing things that are not there
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Colossians 2
The portion of scripture in mind (Genesis 6 ) is simply showing how believers became yoked with those who have no faith, the froward generation, Adam as that seen .Not the spiritual generation Christ as that not seen. We walk by faith the unseen glory not after the corrupted flesh as that seen. Two different kinds of seeds
Things are created after kinds. Those kinds can procreate within the same kinds. Angels are not formed from the dust. They would be celestial beings. There are both kind of bodies terrestrial of the corrupted flesh as that seen the temporal, and the kind of body not seen celestial, the incorruptible
We understand by faith the unseen glory. It’s not after the temporal DNA seeds (many of men) that we do know Christ but that of the spiritual seed (one Christ).
There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star is different from another star in glory. There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.1Corinthians 15
Hollywood would make them all one as if flesh and blood was spirit.
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also
Hollywood would simply as a tradition of men fall under the Colossians 2 verse below using the imagination of their own hearts seeing things that are not there
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Colossians 2
Scripture speaks of one prophecy of Enoch not a book. The book of Enoch is simply a private interpretation as an opinion of men .
[h=1]Deuteronomy 33:2 speaks of the same kind of revelation.[/h]
2 [FONT="]And he said, The [/FONT][FONT="]Lord[/FONT][FONT="] came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them[/FONT]
[h=1]Deuteronomy 33:2 speaks of the same kind of revelation.[/h]
2 [FONT="]And he said, The [/FONT][FONT="]Lord[/FONT][FONT="] came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them[/FONT]
oes this mean that no one should find out why, when, or how Enoch was thrown out. It was considered fact in Jesus time, why is it not fact now?
You must have heard from someone who learned about "gnostic" or you wouldn't know about it. According to you, you shouldn't have learned anything about it.
Should we keep our children out of school and definitely out of history class? Bible students once declared the bible said the earth was flat and when someone said it was round there were many people who said just as you say--there is no truth outside the bible. Psalms tell us to look to the mountains, the mountains are not bible but something else entirely. Should we stop looking at nature as an expression of God, they are not bible, so they can't be truth.
There are still writings we can see that people wrote at the same time the bible was written. Often they explain how life was then and what people thought so we can understand better what the bible is saying. If this history not to be read, too, based on that the bible is always reliable fact.
Oh my!!!!!
You must have heard from someone who learned about "gnostic" or you wouldn't know about it. According to you, you shouldn't have learned anything about it.
Should we keep our children out of school and definitely out of history class? Bible students once declared the bible said the earth was flat and when someone said it was round there were many people who said just as you say--there is no truth outside the bible. Psalms tell us to look to the mountains, the mountains are not bible but something else entirely. Should we stop looking at nature as an expression of God, they are not bible, so they can't be truth.
There are still writings we can see that people wrote at the same time the bible was written. Often they explain how life was then and what people thought so we can understand better what the bible is saying. If this history not to be read, too, based on that the bible is always reliable fact.
Oh my!!!!!
The idea that there were a bunch of fallen angels (the kind that scripture tells us can take on the form of man) who had children with human women. The angels decided to take on the form of giants and their kids were giants, also. The apostles believed it was true.
The Council of Constanstinople ruled it out of scriipure in 553 as part of their Anti-Jewish policy..
The Council of Constanstinople ruled it out of scriipure in 553 as part of their Anti-Jewish policy..
Folks, the problem is that we have no proof that Enoch wrote the book of Enoch, it is obvious that Jude knew of a prophecy by Enoch and so did the person who wrote the book of Enoch, however that is all we really know. A good question would be, why did not Moses place the book of Enoch in with the other inspired writings of God if there was a book of Enoch written by Enoch? I would at least be suspicious of it, for one thing it says that the offspring of angels and women were giants, while the bible does not say that but says that the offspring of angels and women were men of renown.