God is In Control?

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Ariel82

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Jesus could calm a storm and walk on water....

Can you give us an example of "speaking God's word over it" and what happens?

Would you mind telling what denomination church you attend or their articles or faith?

It would save some time...unless you don't agree with the articles of faith or are a new believer and have no clue what they are,
 
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Ariel82 said:
Well he says Angela has been made manager of her section of earth, by God to train her to rule with Him later....
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Good call, Ariel! I missed this extremely Mormon sounding statement. Or, even better, maybe I get my own planet, if I wear the right underwear?

You got to admit, some new guy saying no one has the correct doctrine but him, after showing his colours, is pretty funny, right?
 
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Ariel82 said:
Jesus could calm a storm and walk on water....

Can you give us an example of "speaking God's word over it" and what happens?
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You mean like talking to the weather and telling it to stop raining and it does? Or telling the flu to get itself out of my body and it does? Immediately. I have neither the time nor the space to list it all. Build a list of your own
 
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Denadii said:
Of course I'm a faith person.
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With respect you are still ducking the issue.

And, what exactly are you accusing me of judging?
Yesterday you tried to advance the hypothesis that the Garden of Eden was not on earth! Huh!
That when Genesis clearly indicates its location - as it was then. Two of the rivers mentioned of the four in that description still exist today.
Then you try to push some nonsense that God is not in control on this earth!
Apparently, for you anyway, there is some weird connection between the Garden of Eden not being on earth with God not being in control on earth.
Then you compound your errors by posting lists of verses and passages as if, by themselves, they prove your position.
Just because something is written in the Word of God does NOT prove that YOUR interpretation of that passage is correct.

To say "I believe that every single word in the bible is for ME" or "God's Word is true" or "What I said is what is written in the Word" are all complete non sequiturs.
All they tell anyone is that you are hiding from the real issue at hand.
 
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Did you learn all these super powers from the book of Enoch?

Yeah...where did I put that sign?
 
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Ariel82

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Here it is....welcome to my ignore list..
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graceNpeace said:
With respect you are still ducking the issue.

And, what exactly are you accusing me of judging?
Yesterday you tried to advance the hypothesis that the Garden of Eden was not on earth! Huh!
That when Genesis clearly indicates its location - as it was then. Two of the rivers mentioned of the four in that description still exist today.
Then you try to push some nonsense that God is not in control on this earth!
Apparently, for you anyway, there is some weird connection between the Garden of Eden not being on earth with God not being in control on earth.
Then you compound your errors by posting lists of verses and passages as if, by themselves, they prove your position.
Just because something is written in the Word of God does NOT prove that YOUR interpretation of that passage is correct.

To say "I believe that every single word in the bible is for ME" or "God's Word is true" or "What I said is what is written in the Word" are all complete non sequiturs.
All they tell anyone is that you are hiding from the real issue at hand.
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You are twisting things big time here. I told you about me being a faith person....Accept it or not...
I asked you where the garden is, where the angel guard is. I mentioned the possibility that it is not on the Earth anymore. Possibly never was...Dimensional shift? Possibly...

My point here is this...Because you and your friends ignore some scriptures to keep your doctrines you have judged me to be strange and spouting heretical doctrines.(though you did not use the word heretical)
So I ask you....Who made you judge?

You don't like the verses I shared but the verses you shared said nothing about what you claim at all. There is a difference between Gods will and His sovereignty. but you haven't learned that yet
 
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wolfwint said:
My body has am DNA thats right. But does an soul has an DNA? I suppose this nobody can proof ore find out. No part of Mine is God! How God can have an part with an sinful body? As the scripture said in 1. John 3,2 we are yet not what we will be. Nowhere in the bible it is said that we will be like God. Only Satan said this to Eva.If you teach different then it is false teaching.
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I take you are not born again (believing in Jesus Christ and His Gospel as your savior)?????????????

Your soul/spirit was given to you by God when you were first born... That first Breath of Life, of your young life.

You sin everyday and that does not change with being born again. You see Jesus understands that this human body cannot be sinless. The Holy Spirit will become part of you if you accept Jesus as your savior.

With Jesus Christ as your savior, The Holy Spirit will teach you if you are willing to learn from Him. He will guide you in daily activities if you will listen to Him. He will protect and maintain your soul in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit if you will let Him.
 
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Dear lady. What you believe has no bearing whatsoever on what is or is not true...That is your understanding...But It was not written in the word that dominion was rescinded. You only think it was. but with no Word back up.
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Hi Denadii,

If you can't see it in God's word now, maybe you'll see it later.

Let them have dominion was said to Adam and Eve. Now Adam will rule over Eve so she has lost her dominion. I'm baffled if you can't see that.

And if you can't see that the Earth isn't under Adam's dominion after the fall, maybe you have a different bible than I do - it's what the word says, not my opinion.

Are you listening to commentaries or teaching from any particular authors? I'd like to know which ones if you are.
 
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psalm6819

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Jesus restored authority to believers.
 
Denadii

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Desertsrose said:

Hi Denadii,

If you can't see it in God's word now, maybe you'll see it later.

Let them have dominion was said to Adam and Eve. Now Adam will rule over Eve so she has lost her dominion. I'm baffled if you can't see that.

And if you can't see that the Earth isn't under Adam's dominion after the fall, maybe you have a different bible than I do - it's what the word says, not my opinion.

Are you listening to commentaries or teaching from any particular authors? I'd like to know which ones if you are.
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Dear one...Where does it say "Adam or Eve?
Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

 [h=1] Genesis 1:26 (CJB)
[/h] [SUP]26 [/SUP]Then God said, “Let us make humankind in our image, in the likeness of ourselves; and let them rule over the fish in the sea, the birds in the air, the animals, and over all the earth, and over every crawling creature that crawls on the earth.”


 
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Bladerunner said:

I take you are not born again (believing in Jesus Christ and His Gospel as your savior)?????????????

Your soul/spirit was given to you by God when you were first born... That first Breath of Life, of your young life.

You sin everyday and that does not change with being born again. You see Jesus understands that this human body cannot be sinless. The Holy Spirit will become part of you if you accept Jesus as your savior.

With Jesus Christ as your savior, The Holy Spirit will teach you if you are willing to learn from Him. He will guide you in daily activities if you will listen to Him. He will protect and maintain your soul in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit if you will let Him.
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Blade I know and agree with you. Maby I expresses wrong what I wrote.
I know that I belongs to God! But I am not God!
 
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Denadii said:
You are twisting things big time here. I told you about me being a faith person....Accept it or not...
I asked you where the garden is, where the angel guard is. I mentioned the possibility that it is not on the Earth anymore. Possibly never was...Dimensional shift? Possibly...

My point here is this...Because you and your friends ignore some scriptures to keep your doctrines you have judged me to be strange and spouting heretical doctrines.(though you did not use the word heretical)
So I ask you....Who made you judge?
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Dimensional shift!!?! seriously...

What Scriptures are we ignoring?
And what doctrines do we want to keep?

You are the one challenging doctrines - the burden of proof is on you, surely.
As mentioned before just simply listing verses that are out of context as "proof" of your position is pretty meaningless.

I tell you what - cut to the chase and post an article from your favourite pastor/theologian whose views line up with whatever it is you are trying to tell us.
And, while you are about it take Ariel's advice and post their articles of faith (every church has one).
 
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I stopped in a place in Arizona one time...I bought a rock called a desert rose for my Lady....When I see your name here 'desertrose' I think of that lovely rock..It looks like a rose..Petals an all
 
Denadii

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graceNpeace said:
Dimensional shift!!?! seriously...

What Scriptures are we ignoring?
And what doctrines do we want to keep?

You are the one challenging doctrines - the burden of proof is on you, surely.
As mentioned before just simply listing verses that are out of context as "proof" of your position is pretty meaningless.

I tell you what - cut to the chase and post an article from your favourite pastor/theologian whose views line up with whatever it is you are trying to tell us.
And, while you are about it take Ariel's advice and post their articles of faith (every church has one).
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For a start ...I gave you three scriptures that say we have dominion..You and your friends ignore them in favor of your doctrines.. the Word says clearly one thing but you insist on another. Post articles of faith,,Quote my favorite preacher....And you say I'm not on trial!! Well girl....That's not true. So why don't you take your court and shove it right out the window?
 
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psalm6819

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Most here do not understand the physics of dimensionality so they don't really understand what you are saying. If they can't touch it, taste it, see it, hear it or understand it...automatic dismissal.

Don't think outside the box, it scares people. Lol!
 
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Denadii said:
For a start ...I gave you three scriptures that say we have dominion..
Well girl....
So why don't you take your court and shove it right out the window?
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And several people posted Scriptures with an explanation that clearly demonstrate that dominion is still God's.
Perhaps you don't believe in the principles of Biblical interpretation that state that the Bible does not contradict itself (and that is a Biblical doctrine in itself) so, if there is an apparent contradiction then the fault is with the interpreter not with the Scripture.

I had no idea that I had had a sex change!! Perhaps this means you have dominion over me...

Any trial is of your own making - nobody asked you to make silly claims that you cannot verify.
 
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psalm6819 said:
Most here do not understand the physics of dimensionality so they don't really understand what you are saying. If they can't touch it, taste it, see it, hear it or understand it...automatic dismissal.

Don't think outside the box, it scares people. Lol!
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LOL Thank you...I do not think inside the box at all..Still I get surprised by such troglodytic judgments of our 'family'
 
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Denadii said:
Dear one...Where does it say "Adam or Eve?
Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

 Genesis 1:26 (CJB)


[SUP]26 [/SUP]Then God said, “Let us make humankind in our image, in the likeness of ourselves; and let them rule over the fish in the sea, the birds in the air, the animals, and over all the earth, and over every crawling creature that crawls on the earth.”
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Bolded.......man is considered both male and female in context. Verse 27 God specifically included the woman.

In context, God is talking about Adam and Eve whom He had just created in His image and His likeness. He created them male and female and bless them and told them to subdue the earth and rule over the fish, birds and everything living on the earth.

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” Genesis 1:26,27

So are you going to answer my question as to who you are following, what books....authors you're reading or what commentaries?


 
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graceNpeace said:
And several people posted Scriptures with an explanation that clearly demonstrate that dominion is still God's.
Perhaps you don't believe in the principles of Biblical interpretation that state that the Bible does not contradict itself (and that is a Biblical doctrine in itself) so, if there is an apparent contradiction then the fault is with the interpreter not with the Scripture.

I had no idea that I had had a sex change!! Perhaps this means you have dominion over me...

Any trial is of your own making - nobody asked you to make silly claims that you cannot verify.
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None of the veses shared showed that God is in control in the Earth...I don't believe that a bible written in English needs intrepeting..Unless I'm speaking Russian? Or Swahili If its in English Lady read it in English and take it as it says it. I see that sort of "it needs interpreting" crap all the time...Don't you think God is capable of saying what He mans...Why do you think YOU have to tell the Author what He means? He's not stupid
 
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