How old is planet earth?
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Thats the problem. If you are young earth creationist, you cant trust virtually anything except of your theological view inserted into Bible.
Whenever you look for something outside of this system, outside of icr, answers in genesis and similar websites, outside of your church etc, you will meet information against this view so you must ignore them or discard them.
Also, how the flood answers anything?
Whenever you look for something outside of this system, outside of icr, answers in genesis and similar websites, outside of your church etc, you will meet information against this view so you must ignore them or discard them.
Also, how the flood answers anything?
B
Well the biblical criteria is that each day of the first 6 days mentions morning and evening so this has spawn the idea that each day are literal 24 hour days, though there is no mentioning of midnight or midday just simply says "and there was morning and evening" and not "and there was morning, midday, evening, midnight".
So staying with this biblical criteria on the seventh day scripture doesn't mention anything about and there was morning and evening so yea I can easily say it wasn't as literal as the other days with the morning and evening thing.
Interesting enough is that there are only three verses that have (and there was morning and evening) all by themselves yet the other three (and there was morning and evening) seems to be added on to the end of another verse. strange why is this??
So staying with this biblical criteria on the seventh day scripture doesn't mention anything about and there was morning and evening so yea I can easily say it wasn't as literal as the other days with the morning and evening thing.
Interesting enough is that there are only three verses that have (and there was morning and evening) all by themselves yet the other three (and there was morning and evening) seems to be added on to the end of another verse. strange why is this??
E
to me, I see this, If 1 says evening and morning, that is all we need, We do not need any other day to say that, He could have just said, the second day, the third, We know the first one had an evening and morning, we can easily assume the rest follow the same trend.
The fact that there are three, gives more credibility that we should use them as the example for the rest.
as for added on? not sure what you mean, but to me that would not change anything.
If I tell you a lake has water, I do not have to continue every time I speak of a lake to tell you it has water, the first time, we were told what a lake is, it has water.
The fact that there are three, gives more credibility that we should use them as the example for the rest.
as for added on? not sure what you mean, but to me that would not change anything.
If I tell you a lake has water, I do not have to continue every time I speak of a lake to tell you it has water, the first time, we were told what a lake is, it has water.
E
See, this is exactly what I was talking about, Little jabs to try to tear someone down, It always goes this way. (yours is not trustworthy, mine is) its as if he has to be right at all costs, how dare anyone disagree.
Thats why I do not like these discussions, we have to many KNOW IT ALLS. who will do nothing but attack people who do not agree with them.
Maybe you can not trust them, because they go against your belief? But I trust them just fine. if i did not trust them, I would not try to follow them.
if your going to continue wiht this nonsense, I will just have to do like I always end up doing when you and I try to discuss these things, do and put an end to our discussion.
E
true, but if we were going from a lake of water, to a lake of molten metal. Then the writer would be obligated to tell us he changed the context of the lake he was talking about, or he or she should not expect us have changed the context of what is in the lake, For we would have no basis to think it is anything but water.
to me, this was not done in Gen 1, so IMO to change th e last day and make it different from the first day is pushing it..lol
to me, this was not done in Gen 1, so IMO to change th e last day and make it different from the first day is pushing it..lol
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E
No you did not attack me bro, I was trying to show the room, and someone inparticular who always like to take these discussions and make it personal, how it should done, I was praising you for the way you were discussing, Sorry if you misunderstood.
You give your view, I give mine, No harm done, even if we disagree
B
That is a good point, so in my thinking when God spoke to the writer about the time frame in which the heavens and earth was created, the orginal writer didn't know about the word million or billion etc. the writer wouldn't even be able to comprehend such amount, IMO the basic concept of a time frame was spoken to the writer who could comprehend a day length.
Since scientists cannot go out there they can only postulate on the why of things. I have little confidence in non Christian scientists but they do spout some truth. The science of the stars is almost all observing and hypothesizing. LOL If they would read the bible they would know a lot more than they do.
E
I do not think this would have stopped God from telling Moses what to write, I think if he wanted us to know the earth was a million years old, He would have had moses write it
How much prophesy did God have prophets put down where they could have not understood what it meant, yet he had them right it down anyway.
here is the thing,
was the physical world made for spiritual beings (satan)
or was the physical world made for physical beings (man)
if it was made for man (which I use as my basis) then God would have created the heavens and earth in a way to do what man needed,,
ie, It would have been formed complete for its purpose.
Man did not evolve, He created man fully formed
Creation (the universe including earth) could be created the same way, Not to evolve over millions or billions of years, but in its completed state in just a few days. (god can do this)
To you or I or any scientist, then the earth would appear to be billions of years old. Because of the reasons old earth people use (like how long it take light from the farthest start to appear on earth)
How much prophesy did God have prophets put down where they could have not understood what it meant, yet he had them right it down anyway.
here is the thing,
was the physical world made for spiritual beings (satan)
or was the physical world made for physical beings (man)
if it was made for man (which I use as my basis) then God would have created the heavens and earth in a way to do what man needed,,
ie, It would have been formed complete for its purpose.
Man did not evolve, He created man fully formed
Creation (the universe including earth) could be created the same way, Not to evolve over millions or billions of years, but in its completed state in just a few days. (god can do this)
To you or I or any scientist, then the earth would appear to be billions of years old. Because of the reasons old earth people use (like how long it take light from the farthest start to appear on earth)
Yes, He can. And I'm not say my brother here is wrong either. However, as Paul states in Romans that we can know God through what He has made. While it seems clear that God made Adam as an adult, doesn't have to apply to the earth and universe.
Romans 1:
[FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, [/FONT]
Romans 1:
[FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, [/FONT]