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J7

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if we prepare a list of questions, someone could go on a Moslem Forum and enquire
 
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pottersclay

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Mohammed declared war on the Jews for rejection of his theology on his vision so the story goes.
Even his own family rejected his beliefs.

This is not a hate thread against Muslims, at least I don't see it as such. But saints let's get real this is more than agree to disagree issue here.

Let say that the foster child takes even a deeper hold on her beliefs and for sakes all truth but what she holds to be true.
Everyone is appointed once to die and then judgement. Who will be quick to stand with her before God and say I let her believe, and pray as she desired Lord. Hoping you would intervene by your spirit to led her to the truth. It's your fault God why did you tarry?

What if the Lord answered.....that's why I sent her to you.
We are dealing with a life and death situation here can't you see.

If a artist painted a landscape picture and colored the sky green, grass is blue, trees are purple and the waterfalls were red and said this is a true to life painting would you agree?
 

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Mohammed declared war on the Jews for rejection of his theology on his vision so the story goes.
Even his own family rejected his beliefs.

This is not a hate thread against Muslims, at least I don't see it as such. But saints let's get real this is more than agree to disagree issue here.

Let say that the foster child takes even a deeper hold on her beliefs and for sakes all truth but what she holds to be true.
Everyone is appointed once to die and then judgement. Who will be quick to stand with her before God and say I let her believe, and pray as she desired Lord. Hoping you would intervene by your spirit to led her to the truth. It's your fault God why did you tarry?

What if the Lord answered.....that's why I sent her to you.
We are dealing with a life and death situation here can't you see.

If a artist painted a landscape picture and colored the sky green, grass is blue, trees are purple and the waterfalls were red and said this is a true to life painting would you agree?
What do you suggest to this woman, who I gather from her post, has discussed Christ with her and she was (initially) receptive and even attended church with her and seemed truly interested and even began reading the Bible

what happened between them and now?

Dont know

but what do you suggest this foster mother do for this young girl?

of course ask her what happened that changed her mind to turn from Christ to other practices, certainly
but after that, what should she do?
 

J7

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I think you're right PC. Having been on the Islamic Forums, I realize these guys are way more radicalized than I expected.

Okay, you probably get a certain hardcore type on the forums, but still, they don't make pleasant reading.
 

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I think you're right PC. Having been on the Islamic Forums, I realize these guys are way more radicalized than I expected.

Okay, you probably get a certain hardcore type on the forums, but still, they don't make pleasant reading.
Id like to see it. Can you share a link? (can PM it to me)
 

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To clarlfy:

When I state that Islam is a Satanic deception, I say that because it is.
When I state that any philosophy or religion that denies any aspect of the person or works of Jesus Christ then that philosophy or religion is Satanically inspired.
Satanism is a religion devoted to the worship of Satan.
However the deception of Satan is much broader - atheism is a Satanic deception as well!

This DOES NOT mean that individuals who have been deceived into holding beliefs consistent with Satanic deception are more evil than those who don't hold to those beliefs. It means they are deceived.

I would emphasise this: I do not hate individuals who are Satanically-deceived, rather I have devoted a lot of time and energy over many years in evangelising those individuals into the grace, truth, and peace that is attainable only through Jesus Christ.

So, if I say that I hate Islam (and I do because it is Satanic to the core), it does not follow, in any way shape or form, that I hate Moslems, especially just because they have the label "Moslem."
 
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pottersclay

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What do you suggest to this woman, who I gather from her post, has discussed Christ with her and she was (initially) receptive and even attended church with her and seemed truly interested and even began reading the Bible

what happened between them and now?

Dont know

but what do you suggest this foster mother do for this young girl?

of course ask her what happened that changed her mind to turn from Christ to other practices, certainly
but after that, what should she do?
It's tough my friend, you want to that parent , that person, whom your child finds comfort and confiding in. Being as the o.p. is you would feel twice as bad at strained or broken relationship.

Then again you are a child of God, and cannot afford nor desire to hurt that relationship.

I would seek God and trust him. Then tell her the truth, that you cannot afford to enable a person down a wrong path. That she must stop from her practices in my house. That I love her to much to pursue this ungodly religion.

From what little profile we have , she having 2 christian influences, choosing what she has tells me that the need for a belief in important to her.
It maybe she is testing the waters to see how deep the convictions are.

Islam shows a lot of steadfastness in its converts. This makes it attractive to young people in their rebellion stage.
Young ones these days search for a identity. What better identity could one want than that which makes daily headlines. Not realising the seriousness of it all.

God is faithful to trust him he knows all.....let's trust in that

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From Zechariah 12-

10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. 11 On that day the weeping in Jerusalem will be as great as the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12 The land will mourn, each clan by itself, with their wives by themselves: the clan of the house of David and their wives, the clan of the house of Nathan and their wives, 13 the clan of the house of Levi and their wives, the clan of Shimei and their wives, 14 and all the rest of the clans and their wives.

Romans 11
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”

28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

Jesus even said Himself, "the stone that the builders refused has become the chief cornerstone". The Jews were meant to turn on Him, and crucify Him. All of it is Gods plan.

Islam, however, goes out of its way to deny the Father and the Son, and calls Christ a prophet of Abraham. Anyone who follows it will not be saved. They turn from Jesus and allow themselves to bow before a black rock daily. It is clear that Islam is NOT from God.

And if you refuse to accept that Islam is antichrist, you do not accept the Bible. Apparently, in your view, all one has to do is believe in a singular god and theyre doing alright.
Preach it sis, im happy to read this it glorifies God.
 

J7

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So would you say it is the same logic as say dealing with freemasonry GnP?

These people unknowingly worship Satan?
 

J7

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Islam, however, goes out of its way to deny the Father and the Son, and calls Christ a prophet of Abraham. Anyone who follows it will not be saved. They turn from Jesus and allow themselves to bow before a black rock daily. It is clear that Islam is NOT from God.
How is Judaism any different, other than it views Mary as a prostitute?

One of the forms of Israelite apostasy Ezekiel mentions is sun worship.

The talmud teaches lots of grotesque blasphemies about Jesus.

~Talmud Unmasked~ The Life of Christ/The Christian Cross.
 

miknik5

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How is Judaism any different, other than it views Mary as a prostitute?

One of the forms of Israelite apostasy Ezekiel mentions is sun worship.

The talmud teaches lots of grotesque blasphemies about Jesus.

~Talmud Unmasked~ The Life of Christ/The Christian Cross.
Christ said HE did not come to bring peace

but division

the division is now clearly marked . Those who serve the father of our salvation in by and through the Son


and those who knowingly or unknowingly serve "another father" who was always a liar

CHRIST said to those who could not receive HIS WORDS that the reason they couldn't was because they had another father
 

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So, if I say that I hate Islam (and I do because it is Satanic to the core), it does not follow, in any way shape or form, that I hate Moslems, especially just because they have the label "Moslem."
The frustrating thing about this is that this problem really only seems to exist with Islam. There are people who have devoted their lives to disproving Mormonism and its teachings, in fact I just watched a movie about it last week.

No one is standing in defense for those Mormons over in Utah. No one really cares.

But if we do it for Islam, were accused of racism against Muslims.
Ignoring that being racist against a religious people makes no sense, I dont understand why people feel the need to protect Islam like they do. Its not even a minority, its the worlds largest religion right after Christianity : p There are nations that are ruled under the teachings of Islam.

I dont think we need to make the difference between Islam and people every time we talk about Islam. I think that as a community of Christian people, we should already understand the difference.
 

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So would you say it is the same logic as say dealing with freemasonry GnP?

These people unknowingly worship Satan?
Why would it be any different? If its a false doctrine, we should be speaking out against it.
If you are knowledgeable about freemasonry and feel pushed to talk to others about it, definitely do it. Id be on your side all the way.

How is Judaism any different, other than it views Mary as a prostitute?

One of the forms of Israelite apostasy Ezekiel mentions is sun worship.

The talmud teaches lots of grotesque blasphemies about Jesus.

~Talmud Unmasked~ The Life of Christ/The Christian Cross.
The Bible says on more than one occasion that the Jews were meant to turn from Him, and that on the last day He would save them, in both the OT and NT.

I dont think theres anything wrong with helping Jews come to Christ, btw. It totally happens, Ive seen testimonies. And if you know people who are being mislead by the Jews to deny Christ, you should totally defend the Gospel, yeah.

But the Jews are supposed to take this path, its a part of Gods will.
 
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pottersclay

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Christianity is a narrow road, idealism, theology, and carnal thinking has broaden its path and caused many divisions with in the church.
God does know the heart of man. That's why he needs to change it.
Letting human emotion, and appearance rule, will prostitute God's truth.
I believe this is one of the hardest battles we do face as we are called to confront not only strangers, and acquaintances, but also friends and loved ones.
We need to pray for strength to endure these time as well as pray for each other. To stand steadfast in truth.
We ourselves can become victims of our emotional weaknesses, not to say we have no truth in us, but we are afraid to share it and face the confrontation from loved ones.
 
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The frustrating thing about this is that this problem really only seems to exist with Islam. There are people who have devoted their lives to disproving Mormonism and its teachings, in fact I just watched a movie about it last week.

No one is standing in defense for those Mormons over in Utah. No one really cares.

But if we do it for Islam, were accused of racism against Muslims.
Ignoring that being racist against a religious people makes no sense, I dont understand why people feel the need to protect Islam like they do. Its not even a minority, its the worlds largest religion right after Christianity : p There are nations that are ruled under the teachings of Islam.

I dont think we need to make the difference between Islam and people every time we talk about Islam. I think that as a community of Christian people, we should already understand the difference.
Me either. I just wanna ask die-hard, non-Muslim Islam defenders: Did Islam pay off your mortgage or something? Why are you so devoted to making sure no one dares speak a word against it?

Islam doesn't even offer these people so much as a free shirt yet they're licking the bottom of its boot.

Islam has this spiritually blind world wrapped around its finger. Smh.
 
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Me either. I just wanna ask die-hard, non-Muslim Islam defenders: Did Islam pay off your mortgage or something? Why are you so devoted to making sure no one dares speak a word against it? Islam doesn't even offer these people so much as a free shirt yet they're licking the bottom of its boot.

Islam has this spiritually blind world wrapped around its finger. Smh.
Fear is the first word that comes to mind. But that's not the only reason. On behalf of my gender I'm somewhat embarrassed to acknowledge that most die hard Muslim defenders are women.

The reports from countries like U.K. and Sweden, for starter, also informs us that a lot of women are seeking positions where they will be working near asylum seekers. Add to this the fact that most asylum seekers are men, and the picture is about to getting clearer.

I live in Europe, and I have seen with my own eyes that middle aged women are holding hands with their young, immigrant boy friends. If middle aged men were having young, immigrant girl friends, it'd have caused an uproar. Hypocrisy, not?
 
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if we prepare a list of questions, someone could go on a Moslem Forum and enquire
what questions did you have and i can ask?
 

J7

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Ask them who they think Jesus is.

Ask them what happens to you if you preach Jesus to them

Ask if it is forbidden to leave Islam

Ask them what they think of the Torah

Ask them what they think of the Gospel


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