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Also, if you are claiming that theres animosity due to the Christian view of Islam, maybe you need to learn what Islam teaches about Christians-
Quran 9:30 “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”.
Quran 5:51- "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."
If you believe that Christianity preaches such hate against Muslims, while Islam preaches love and acceptance of Christianity, you do not know Islam.
Quran 9:30 “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”.
Quran 5:51- "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."
If you believe that Christianity preaches such hate against Muslims, while Islam preaches love and acceptance of Christianity, you do not know Islam.
I've had a quick scan on what the Koran actually says. It definitely denies that Jesus is the Son of God, so it has to be viewed as an antiChrist doctrine, I would agree.
It also points very clearly to Christ in other ways, e.g. it understands that Jesus will return for judgement day, and it understands that he is the Messiah.
However, it curses those who say Jesus is the Son of God.
It is totally confused really.
It also points very clearly to Christ in other ways, e.g. it understands that Jesus will return for judgement day, and it understands that he is the Messiah.
However, it curses those who say Jesus is the Son of God.
It is totally confused really.
Yup, youre right, it does in fact tell us that allah also gave us the Gospel and the torah as well-
Quran 3:3-4 "He has revealed to you the book with truth, verifying that which is before it, and he revealed the torah and the Gosple aforetime, a guidance for mankind, and he revealed the criterion."
And it tells Christians to judge the quran by the Gospel-
Quran 5:47 "Let the people of the Gospel judge by what allah hath reveled therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel."
And yet it still denies that Christ was the Son of God and that He died on the cross for our sins, in fact, I literally just posted all this this morning, as proof that Muhammad was a false prophet.
Yup, the quran contradicts itself in this manner, hoping that its listeners do not know better.
Quran 3:3-4 "He has revealed to you the book with truth, verifying that which is before it, and he revealed the torah and the Gosple aforetime, a guidance for mankind, and he revealed the criterion."
And it tells Christians to judge the quran by the Gospel-
Quran 5:47 "Let the people of the Gospel judge by what allah hath reveled therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel."
And yet it still denies that Christ was the Son of God and that He died on the cross for our sins, in fact, I literally just posted all this this morning, as proof that Muhammad was a false prophet.
Yup, the quran contradicts itself in this manner, hoping that its listeners do not know better.
It calls Jesus Messiah, but the word has an entirely different meaning for the Muslims than it does for anyone else.
Youve just reposted everything Ive already said here ten times now.
It praises Jesus as a "good prophet", and nothing more. It denies Him of everything He is and everything He did for us, but tries to hide it behind a "we believe in Jesus, He is one of our greatest prophets!" mask, therefore leading any Christian who does not yet really know the Gospel to accept the quran as the word of God.
Youve just reposted everything Ive already said here ten times now.
It praises Jesus as a "good prophet", and nothing more. It denies Him of everything He is and everything He did for us, but tries to hide it behind a "we believe in Jesus, He is one of our greatest prophets!" mask, therefore leading any Christian who does not yet really know the Gospel to accept the quran as the word of God.
You should start a separate thread on Islam Yereza, you seem quite knowledgeable about it. I have to confess, I really do not know much about it at all. You kind of feel you ought to read the Koran to see what it says, but then you think, 'nah', boring. I have to confess, having lived in the Middle East a long time, I was always told it was just a version of Judaism, which I accepted. And it is really; it is an old covenant style legalistic system which denies Christ, though not as violently as Judaism.
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Hell yeah. Jews go mad if you mention Jesus. The Koran says lots of positive things about Jesus, but then seems to do a loop and say:
"Even though he's the Messiah who came in the flesh and who will judge the earth at his 2nd coming, he's not the Son Of God and his revelation is superseded by Mohammeds."
Or something like that. Like I say, no expert and the Muslims I have met told me they were destined to be Christians.
Too complex for me.
Just preach the gospel in simplicity I reckon.
"Even though he's the Messiah who came in the flesh and who will judge the earth at his 2nd coming, he's not the Son Of God and his revelation is superseded by Mohammeds."
Or something like that. Like I say, no expert and the Muslims I have met told me they were destined to be Christians.
Too complex for me.
Just preach the gospel in simplicity I reckon.
That can be said for everything in the world apart from Christianity because Salvation comes from a belief in Christ. Actually the whole world is Antichrist at some level. The only Biblical definition of an Antichrist is given by John
Every Spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God
and every Spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh
is not of God and this is the Spirit of Antichrist,whereof ye heard that
it should come and even now already is it in the world.
1 John 4:2-3 KJV
It is believed that john was warning against Gnostic teachings that were beginning to creep into the Church. One main teaching is that flesh is evil and that Jesus was not really flesh and blood but a Spirit.
Every Spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God
and every Spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh
is not of God and this is the Spirit of Antichrist,whereof ye heard that
it should come and even now already is it in the world.
1 John 4:2-3 KJV
It is believed that john was warning against Gnostic teachings that were beginning to creep into the Church. One main teaching is that flesh is evil and that Jesus was not really flesh and blood but a Spirit.