I apologize to my brothers and sisters that have replied in this thread for my curtness with Angel53510 in post #53.
I had no problem with the way some responders were having fun with the word hereticks. I saw that as light humor.
But I read Angela53510's reply as a slight towards me, and I did not respond with grace as I was rather curt with her.
I know she can be a caring sister from a recent reply from her that I liked to another poster, so she can edify without slighting.
I want to point out to everyone to think about all those negative comments about relying only on the KJV, because as much as KJVOlyism have some statements that has gone too far, like saying it is a perfect Bible, there is an awful lot of statements against the KJV that are going too far and are quite unreasonable. It looks to me people just take whatever negative comment about the KJV on the internet and just run with it without discerning how absurd the claim is.
Like for example of an antiKJV absurdity; King James changed the Bible to hide his sin of homosexuality, BUT you can read the KJV Bible to find scripture untouched that still speaks against homosexuality. Nothing has been omitted.
As for saying the KJV is a perfect Bible, I can think of 2 places where it could be better.
Luke 17:[SUP]37 [/SUP]And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.
HTML Bible Index - King James Version - Strongs Concordance - Frames Version
At this link above ( yeah.. I know.. that address is not to my liking in saying King James is a sacred name but I am ignoring it ) there is a Strong's Concordance that goes with KJV and if you click on the left column on Luke 17th chapter and scroll down to the very last verse 37, you will see the Greek in blue paralleling that verse.
Click on sunacqhsontai and you will see this definition below from the Greek word sunagw or sunago:
"from
sun - sun
4862 and
agw - ago
71; to lead together, i.e. collect or convene; specially, to entertain (hospitably):--+ accompany, assemble (selves, together), bestow, come together, gather (selves together, up, together), lead into, resort, take in."
Now while antiKJVers are jumping up and down about this verse where eagles should have been "vultures" as some modern day Bibles have it and that they claim that the verse was about God taking out the bad guys, they are doing so out of context of the message given when Jesus was warning believers to be ready to leave before destruction comes.
And those taken are being received with hospitality to be entertained as one would be when received to the Marriage Supper.
I just don;t think the KJV really conveyed that idea from sunagw in translation, but neither has any other Bible version, and some goes so far as to give the opposite message too when using vultures in place of eagles.
And the Greek word that eagles was translated from was...aetoV or aetos which means..
"from the same as
ahr - aer
109; an eagle (from its wind-like flight):--eagle."
Another example of KJV not being a perfect Bible is..
Revelation 3:[SUP]5 [/SUP]He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will
not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
The Greek words that "not" was derived from was ou mh or ou me as defined as:
"i.e.
ou - ou
3756 and
mh - me
3361; a double negative strengthening the denial; not at all:--any more, at all, by any (no) means, neither, never, no (at all), in no case (wise), nor ever, not (at all, in any wise). Compare
mh ouk - me ouk
3378."
That means Jesus will never wipe out any believer's name from the Book of Life.
But does any other Bible version make that clearer? No. Probably afraid of the curse if they add to or take away from that book. I do not know.
So no, I do not believe KJVOnlyism that the KJV is the perfect Bible BUT I believe it is the must Bible we are to use when using the meat of His words to discern good and evil in these latter days where faith is hard to find.
ALL modern Bibles including the KJV has John 16:13 testifying that the Holy Spirit CANNOT speak for Himself , but can only speak what He hears BUT ALL modern Bibles EXCEPT the KJV has Romans 8:26-27 wrong as running against the truth in John 16:13.
The KJV signified that the Holy Spirit has intercessions for us but He cannot utter them for they are unspeakable as in groaning which cannot be uttered hence no sound at all in Romans 8:26. This leads to how His intercession is given to God in verse 27 by ANOTHER knowing the mind of the Spirit as He is the One that searches our hearts Whom is Jesus Christ, the Son of God at that throne of grace ( Hebrews 4:12-16 )
So KJV has Romans 8:26-27 lining up with John 16:13 in keeping the truth in His words so that believers that hear Him and His words will know that the Holy Spirit CANNOT use God's gift of tongues as His personal prayer language back to God.
The real God;s gift of tongues is of other men's lips to speak unto the people: 1 Corinthians 14:20-22 and tongues are not to serve as a sign or proof to believers at all.
And yet believers seek to receive the "Holy Spirit" separate from salvation after a sign of tongues which never comes with interpretation and so they assume it is a prayer language of the Holy Spirit, and modern Bibles erroneous Romans 8:26-27 supports that whereas the KJV does not BUT maintains that truth that all modern Bibles plainly stated in John 16:13.
That is why I rely on the KJV only for the meat of His words to discern good and evil in these latter days where faith is hard to find, because modern Bibles support that supernatural tongue gained by apostasy of seeking to receive the Spirit separate from salvation. And it does not stop there. They receive the Holy Spirit again and again and again after other signs too, falling down and all that other acts of confusion which is not of Him ( 1 Corinthians 14:32-33 )
May God cause the increase.