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Is there any one that can witness against this man? He posted 18 verses and added no works at the end. Who is the deceiver? Is there anyone here that can see the Truth according to GOD?
Now you are bearing false witness...that makes 2 of the 7 found in proverbs 6 and you claim to be saved.......I added nothing and your a liar!

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Do you have anything of value....post 10 verses in context that state works save......

It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe <----NO works

For by Grace have you been saved by faith and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God, not of works lest any many should boast <-----No works

He that believes on the Son shall be saved <---No works

They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household." <---No works

And He said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace <--No works

that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved <---No works

For whatever is born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world--our faith <--No works

so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life. <--No works

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life <--No works

He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." <--No works

"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. <--No works

For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day."<--No works

But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,<--No works

but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.<--No works

Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins."<--No works

"He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.<--No works

and through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things, from which you could not be freed through the Law of Moses.<--No works

But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth<--No works

obtaining as the outcome of your faith the salvation of your souls.<--No works

You will have to get up early, eat your Wheaties and then twist the bible into a pretzel to make it teach works salvation pal.....!
 
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I believe you misunderstand what they are saying if you believe they are against doing good works for God's glory.
Ariel you are not here for Truth.. digging up a thread like that was a reminder of who you are. You encourage them all you want GOD judge between us.
 

blue_ladybug

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WOW, you're....something. Works are not required for salvation..

Is there any one that can witness against this man? He posted 18 verses and added no works at the end. Who is the deceiver? Is there anyone here that can see the Truth according to GOD?
 
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https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Sabbath.html


In Him we find complete rest from the labors of our self-effort, because He alone is holy and righteous. "God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God" (2 Corinthians 5:21). We can now cease from our spiritual labors and rest in Him, not just one day a week, but always.

Jesus can be our Sabbath rest in part because He is "Lord of the Sabbath" (Matthew 12:8). As God incarnate, He decides the true meaning of the Sabbath because He created it, and He is our Sabbath rest in the flesh. When the Pharisees criticized Him for healing on the Sabbath, Jesus reminded them that even they, sinful as they were, would not hesitate to pull a sheep out of a pit on the Sabbath. Because He came to seek and save His sheep who would hear His voice (John 10:3,27) and enter into the Sabbath rest He provided by paying for their sins, He could break the Sabbath rules. He told the Pharisees that people are more important than sheep and the salvation He provided was more important than rules. By saying, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath" (Mark 2:27), Jesus was restating the principle that the Sabbath rest was instituted to relieve man of his labors, just as He came to relieve us of our attempting to achieve salvation by our works. We no longer rest for only one day, but forever cease our laboring to attain God’s favor. Jesus is our rest from works now, just as He is the door to heaven, where we will rest in Him forever.
 

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And what are YOU here for? Certainly not truth, ohhh nooo, you call truth unbiblical... Strange how you've been here for 6 years, yet I've NEVER seen you post anywhere before today..

Ariel you are not here for Truth.. digging up a thread like that was a reminder of who you are. You encourage them all you want GOD judge between us.
 
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WOW, you're....something. Works are not required for salvation..
Can you believe her false witness.....and lies......context is clear....I never added anything, but just pointed it out that NO works were mentioned.....
 

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Can you believe her false witness.....and lies......context is clear....I never added anything, but just pointed it out that NO works were mentioned.....

Did you try the no works thing with Revelation 2 and 3 yet? There is so many places you would have to do it to......
 
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Ariel? Still waiting for the Scripture that says that God is our Sabbath?...... Are you sure your not making things up? :rolleyes:
 
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Ariel you are not here for Truth.. digging up a thread like that was a reminder of who you are. You encourage them all you want GOD judge between us.
I am here for fellowship with my brothers and sisters and God will judge us.

Do you no longer condemn people for not keeping the weekly Sabbath?

If so then I would say Praise God!

If you do still condemn folks, then we don't really have much to talk about.
 

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And what are YOU here for? Certainly not truth, ohhh nooo, you call truth unbiblical... Strange how you've been here for 6 years, yet I've NEVER seen you post anywhere before today..
Strange indeed...
 
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Did you try the no works thing with Revelation 2 and 3 yet? There is so many places you would have to do it to......
NOTHING in REV 2, 3 and or 4 states that works are NECESSARY for salvation...IT IS FAITH that saves......wake UP.....and the bible is clear....

WORKS or GRACE NOT BOTH

SO...keep peddling CAINOLOGY.....the bible is clear...GRACE THRU FAITH salvation! NOT WORKS
 
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Ariel? Still waiting for the Scripture that says that God is our Sabbath?...... Are you sure your not making things up? :rolleyes:
I posted an article. Did you read it?

I could post a parable but doubt it would help you, because you claim to see.