How to keep the Sabbath.

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gotime

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Many try to make the Sabbath a burden on those who obey the Lord. In so doing they do just as the Jewish people did in making the law a burden by adding traditions/interpretations of the law that were from man and not God.

So lets look at what it means to keep the Sabbath.

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The very first part is "Remember" the Sabbath day. why? to keep it Holy. what does keeping it Holy mean?

The word Holy means to sanctify or set apart for Holy use, apart from what? the other 6 days. So God asks us to remember the Sabbath to keep it set apart from other days. why?

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Because He is God and he made/worked the heavens and earth in six days on on the seventh he set it apart for holy use. Last time I checked God still is the creator so if the reason is still valid and the commandment is based on the reason then seems logical still stands.

Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

We are to do our work in the other six days, what work?

The Sabbath is a day of rest to the body from the labour and toil, and rest to the soulf from all worldly care and anxieties. God set it apart to be devoted not to secular but to sacred work. This is a wise provision from God for the benefit of man.

This benefit was for all in the household.
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

notice that all are included even the animals which would have been used in their labours to move objects yield crops etc. but also the stranger in thy gate. It is important to understand that many had bond servants who lived on their properties and worked for them. but God says that they should also be given rest from their labours. In other words God gave this rest as a blessing and the stranger was also protected by God in this blessing so that the master could not force their bond servant to work while they rested.

Exo 23:12 Six days thou shalt do thy work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine ox and thine ass may rest, and the son of thy handmaid, and the stranger, may be refreshed.

The whole point was to refresh the body and also to remember who created man, to remember God.

When people sprout on about using internet etc on the Sabbath they miss the whole point, it was about making/forcing others to work while you rest. God says everyone has the need and right to rest and refresh. The Sabbath is not a burden but a blessing if we only keep what God says and not add traditions to it.

The last point is that the Sabbath is the 7th day. why because that is the day God rested and He asks us to remember that.

The specific day must matter to God, because He specifies which day and points it back to his example. plus the reason for it was to Keep it Holy. in other words keep it set apart. because God already set it apart on the seventh day of creation.

blessings.
 
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Karraster

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Great post Gotime!! When I remember the Sabbath it brings to remembrance the body of Christ, and in whom our trust is, Christ Jesus. I'm reminded of the history and struggles of God's people and messengers, and it is bread and water for my soul. It is a day to think about our Father who provides all things, study God's Word, and no matter what the world does I am safe in Christ and believe on the promise. The whole creation was made by Him and for Him in 6 days, and on the 7th day He rested. Glory be to God!
 
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I'm beginning to think that all of these sabbath threads are posts by Seventh Day Adventist shills trying to get their membership up. Apparently they are losing membership; and since it costs them about $42,000 per convert, trolling for suckers on the Internet may be a way to try to cut costs.


Research findings show disturbing trends in [Seventh Day Adventist] church growth in the North American Division (NAD).

"If we take the number of NAD converts as a percent of the population rate of growth," Kidder explained, "the church is experiencing a decline in growth." He went on to report, "The growth pattern also shows that it takes more and more members to produce one convert (30, as opposed to 13).

Kidder then got to the bottom line: "In addition, we now spend up to about $42,000 per conversion; this is up from about $8000 (2005 U.S. dollars) in 1948." (Ministry, February 2011, pg. 13).
For your reading pleasure: > Go Figure... Adventist Converts are Expensive!
 

WomanLovesTX

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I'm beginning to think that all of these sabbath threads are posts by Seventh Day Adventist shills trying to get their membership up. Apparently they are losing membership; and since it costs them about $42,000 per convert, trolling for suckers on the Internet may be a way to try to cut costs.



For your reading pleasure: > Go Figure... Adventist Converts are Expensive!
Go Figure on this. I am not SDA. The first time I had ever heard that the Sabbath was not done away with it, my heart was pricked. The Holy Spirit was the one pricking me. Know what I mean? Well, I kept studying the Word and after 4 years sought out a Messianic Jewish group in San Antonio, where I was living at that time. The next week I had to make a decision to move to the area my daughters were living. My youngest daughter was expecting twins and I wanted to be close to assist her during her pregnancy and after the twins were born. So I got on the internet and found a group just a couple of miles away from my new home that meets on the Sabbath. I discovered there something called SDA. How did I discover them? There were several families there that had left the SDA!!! These are wonderful people, and while they learned a lot of Biblical doctrine, they also felt that there SDA congregation had some serious problems with God's Feast Days. Don't really know the whole kit and kaboddle of what went down, but they often say things in regard to "unlearning" things taught in SDA.

Anyway, I now assist my daughter and grandsons. It's actually my "job". So I go on Saturday afternoons to my fellowship and after dark return to my daughters to assist her with the babies night time routine. From the very start I was committed to keeping the Sabbath rest and my daughter insisted I have one day off. At first, after the twins were born, I did not see them at all on Saturday, but it became obvious after several weeks that she was really struggling without my help. Because Jesus taught us "love", I let her know anytime she needs me, I am there for her, and it doesn't matter if it is on the Sabbath. So now, like I said, I go to assist after fellowship on Saturday. When my son-in-law comes in off the tugboat he captains, I get a break and travel back to San Antonio where I have many friends and family to visit.

My life has been very blessed and I believe it was divinely ordained.

If someone doesn't feel or understand about God's laws and keeping the Sabbath, I have nothing but love and prayers for that person. And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God and are called according to His purposes. (Rom 8:28).
 
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Go Figure on this. I am not SDA. The first time I had ever heard that the Sabbath was not done away with it, my heart was pricked. The Holy Spirit was the one pricking me. Know what I mean? Well, I kept studying the Word and after 4 years sought out a Messianic Jewish group in San Antonio, where I was living at that time. The next week I had to make a decision to move to the area my daughters were living. My youngest daughter was expecting twins and I wanted to be close to assist her during her pregnancy and after the twins were born. So I got on the internet and found a group just a couple of miles away from my new home that meets on the Sabbath. I discovered there something called SDA. How did I discover them? There were several families there that had left the SDA!!! These are wonderful people, and while they learned a lot of Biblical doctrine, they also felt that there SDA congregation had some serious problems with God's Feast Days. Don't really know the whole kit and kaboddle of what went down, but they often say things in regard to "unlearning" things taught in SDA.

Anyway, I now assist my daughter and grandsons. It's actually my "job". So I go on Saturday afternoons to my fellowship and after dark return to my daughters to assist her with the babies night time routine. From the very start I was committed to keeping the Sabbath rest and my daughter insisted I have one day off. At first, after the twins were born, I did not see them at all on Saturday, but it became obvious after several weeks that she was really struggling without my help. Because Jesus taught us "love", I let her know anytime she needs me, I am there for her, and it doesn't matter if it is on the Sabbath. So now, like I said, I go to assist after fellowship on Saturday. When my son-in-law comes in off the tugboat he captains, I get a break and travel back to San Antonio where I have many friends and family to visit.

My life has been very blessed and I believe it was divinely ordained.

If someone doesn't feel or understand about God's laws and keeping the Sabbath, I have nothing but love and prayers for that person. And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God and are called according to His purposes. (Rom 8:28).
Well if you do believe that the sabbath law is still in force, then I guess your heart would be 'pricked'. Whatever is not of faith is sin.
 
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Go Figure on this. I am not SDA.
In saying ALL of these sabbath threads are posts by Seventh Day Adventist shills, I did not mean EVERY thread; so in retrospect I probably should have said MANY, or possibly MOST.
 
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In saying ALL of these sabbath threads are posts by Seventh Day Adventist shills, I did not mean EVERY thread; so in retrospect I probably should have said MANY, or possibly MOST.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm gracekeeper what a blooper you made
 
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stacygo72

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Wasn't it a commandment to remember the sabbath and keep it holy?
 
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Well if you do believe that the sabbath law is still in force, then I guess your heart would be 'pricked'. Whatever is not of faith is sin.
Do you actually believe that God, and all that God is and created is not valid any more!!!! Christ was God, His son. Christ and God were one. Never, ever, did Christ speak against His Father. His Father said that He worked six days to create the world and blessed the seventh day for us. Christ would never say that His Father was wrong in that. How can you, alive in Christ as you have posted and I believe, say it is not of faith to believe what Christ and God the Father says?
 

loveme1

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Matthew 12

9And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue: 10And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him. 11And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out? 12How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days. 13Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other. 14Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.
Luke 23

55And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.56And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.
The Messiah Taught us how to observe Sabbath...

When He taught us the Greatest Commandment :)
 
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tkyles1009

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Well if you do believe that the sabbath law is still in force, then I guess your heart would be 'pricked'. Whatever is not of faith is sin.
"Faith without works is dead faith"
I read quite a few of your replies and if someone thinks differently from you.
You go on the assault . Not very Christ like "Christian"
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These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
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Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.

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Kerry

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To the OP. The only way to biblically keep the Sabbath is to [lace your your faith exclusively in the work of the cross. Any otherway glorifies your self
 

loveme1

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To the OP. The only way to biblically keep the Sabbath is to [lace your your faith exclusively in the work of the cross. Any otherway glorifies your self
Surely, by Keeping the Testimony of the Messiah whom went up and suffered on the cross, is glorifying to Heavenly Father and Yahshua the Messiah.

Servants can take no credit for doing that which their Master commands.
 
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Kerry

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Surely, by Keeping the Testimony of the Messiah whom went up and suffered on the cross, is glorifying to Heavenly Father and Yahshua the Messiah.

Servants can take no credit for doing that which their Master commands.

Are your you sure that by keeping Sabbath glorifies God or yourself. It is a fine line. Well I go to church and these heathen don't, but Christ died for them as well. What happens to your theology when an evil and vile man who never set foot in church, but on his death bed a preacher visits and he accepts Christ the moment before he dies, no baptism, no new beginners class. Solely on the cross. Where does he go?
 

loveme1

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Are your you sure that by keeping Sabbath glorifies God or yourself. It is a fine line. Well I go to church and these heathen don't, but Christ died for them as well. What happens to your theology when an evil and vile man who never set foot in church, but on his death bed a preacher visits and he accepts Christ the moment before he dies, no baptism, no new beginners class. Solely on the cross. Where does he go?
How is Resting the Sabbath day glorifying myself?

The man is like the thief on the cross next to the Messiah.

The answer is given by the Words spoken to the thief.

Unlike the thief, or your man on his deathbed, my journey home continues and while i abide i will be Faithful to my first love.
 
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Kerry

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How is Resting the Sabbath day glorifying myself?

The man is like the thief on the cross next to the Messiah.

The answer is given by the Words spoken to the thief.

Unlike the thief, or your man on his deathbed, my journey home continues and while i abide i will be Faithful to my first love.
Because it is works and work of the flesh. But if your faith is in the cross, then it is a work of the Spirit and not your own. Not by might, nor by power, but, by My Spirit saith the Lord.
 

loveme1

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Because it is works and work of the flesh. But if your faith is in the cross, then it is a work of the Spirit and not your own. Not by might, nor by power, but, by My Spirit saith the Lord.
Is lying a work of the Spirit or of the Flesh?
 
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The last point is that the Sabbath is the 7th day.
Not so. The Sabbath can be any day, and it's primary signification in the law is a "day of rest." It just so happens that the regular Sabbath was the seventh day but there were other Sabbaths also. So I guess you seventh day sabbatarians must be 7th day Adventists? Of course there's nothing wrong with a national government instituting seventh day sabbaths - indeed its probably a good thing, but all this focus on individual responsibility to observe it, even where circumstances preclude it, is not good.

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Kerry

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Is lying a work of the Spirit or of the Flesh?
Okay, you tell me. The Spirit has never lied to me. The word says that satan is the father of lies. So what do you think.