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Smoke creating
Some cultures use smoke as a signal of news. Others use smoke to cause trouble, or
rouse the crowd to start a fight. In acts when Paul came, they stirred up a whole city
against them with accusations of trouble.
Now the normal way you do this, is to say such and such a person upset me and continually
behaves badly. You then go on at length, and yet more length how it would be soooooooo
much better if they were not here, because they are the cause of everything bad in this idyllic
world.
The hope is two fold, you will find a real thing to complain about, you will get the gang to pick
on the targets and finish the job.
Now if there is a problem, and someone is breaking the rules, fair enough, but if it is just you
do not agree with or like something they are saying, this is causing trouble and attempted
bullying. And what bullies hate is people who say, stop it, express your points, be civil or go
somewhere else. You will just make yourself look as you are, a bully who cannot cope.
Bullies never win in the long run, they make too many enemies.
Some cultures use smoke as a signal of news. Others use smoke to cause trouble, or
rouse the crowd to start a fight. In acts when Paul came, they stirred up a whole city
against them with accusations of trouble.
Now the normal way you do this, is to say such and such a person upset me and continually
behaves badly. You then go on at length, and yet more length how it would be soooooooo
much better if they were not here, because they are the cause of everything bad in this idyllic
world.
The hope is two fold, you will find a real thing to complain about, you will get the gang to pick
on the targets and finish the job.
Now if there is a problem, and someone is breaking the rules, fair enough, but if it is just you
do not agree with or like something they are saying, this is causing trouble and attempted
bullying. And what bullies hate is people who say, stop it, express your points, be civil or go
somewhere else. You will just make yourself look as you are, a bully who cannot cope.
Bullies never win in the long run, they make too many enemies.
I do not watch horror movies, find them unhelpful and disturbing, playing on the fears
of the viewer with innocence meeting their inevitable gory end by the end of the film.
Some are just so violent it is slap stick while others are truly disturbing like silence of the
lambs or SAW, both of which I refuse to watch because they are sick.
And on the subject of sick contemplations, do you know what snuff movies are. They are
real violence filmed on innocent victims for the pleasure of the viewer. It shocked me to
know some work colleagues were not shocked by this type of content but sought it out.
So I am curious, what is the connection between my comments and people having temper
tantrums? Or are you in denial?
of the viewer with innocence meeting their inevitable gory end by the end of the film.
Some are just so violent it is slap stick while others are truly disturbing like silence of the
lambs or SAW, both of which I refuse to watch because they are sick.
And on the subject of sick contemplations, do you know what snuff movies are. They are
real violence filmed on innocent victims for the pleasure of the viewer. It shocked me to
know some work colleagues were not shocked by this type of content but sought it out.
So I am curious, what is the connection between my comments and people having temper
tantrums? Or are you in denial?
He has great control over his tongue. 
But let's not lose the original point. There are two brothers here who do NOT have that control. It is painful to watch and painful that they won't hear us.
If in my defense of Grace7 and the way he is being treated, I lose control over my tongue, have I gained us anything? And I'm assuming we all want gains and growth in the Spirit. (I would be extremely surprised if G7 did not agree with me on this.)
But let's not lose the original point. There are two brothers here who do NOT have that control. It is painful to watch and painful that they won't hear us.
If in my defense of Grace7 and the way he is being treated, I lose control over my tongue, have I gained us anything? And I'm assuming we all want gains and growth in the Spirit. (I would be extremely surprised if G7 did not agree with me on this.
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I have said this many times before but will say it again for those new to CC in the hope that it will help them as they participate in these forums.
This is also a consideration when interacting with some on line and encountering the below type of behavior.
What happens in some people's minds is this:
Someone makes the statement:
"What a beautiful blue sky the Lord gave us today."
Someone else responds back to the above statement:
"What? The sky is not green- everyone knows that the sky is blue
- you are lawless and an enemy of Christ, a heretic and false teacher, satanic, delusional, a hater of those that walk righteously and in purity of heart...etc...etc".
When people have this kind of a mindset - it is impossible to have any kind of a rational discussion with them as they continually "see" something else than what is actually said. They then proceed to talk as if this "made-up thought" is real.
And sometimes we can just agree to disagree too but to deliberately mis-represent what is really being said is deceitful and with these types I have no interaction with until I see that they are at the very least being honest in their discussions and not being abusive and insulting others.
As the saying goes - There is something wrong in Denmark and is most likely just a waste of time to interact with such a mindset as no good can come out of it until repentance is granted by the Lord.
With these types the only recourse until repentance is manifested is to do what Paul says to do.
Rom. 16:17 - ( Do not interact with them and avoid them )
Because 1 Cor. 15:33 can occur -
And then Hebrews 12:15 can take place and thus many be defiled.
It is better to take the slander and leave it in the hands of the Lord then to interact with them. He alone is our defense and none of us are walking in all that is in our new creation in Christ yet. We all have un-renewed areas in our minds that need transformation to occur to manifest Christ outwardly.
We have this treasure ( Christ Himself ) in this earthen vessel so that the excellency of the power will be of God and not of ourselves.
This is also a consideration when interacting with some on line and encountering the below type of behavior.
What happens in some people's minds is this:
Someone makes the statement:
"What a beautiful blue sky the Lord gave us today."
Someone else responds back to the above statement:
"What? The sky is not green- everyone knows that the sky is blue
- you are lawless and an enemy of Christ, a heretic and false teacher, satanic, delusional, a hater of those that walk righteously and in purity of heart...etc...etc".
When people have this kind of a mindset - it is impossible to have any kind of a rational discussion with them as they continually "see" something else than what is actually said. They then proceed to talk as if this "made-up thought" is real.
And sometimes we can just agree to disagree too but to deliberately mis-represent what is really being said is deceitful and with these types I have no interaction with until I see that they are at the very least being honest in their discussions and not being abusive and insulting others.
As the saying goes - There is something wrong in Denmark and is most likely just a waste of time to interact with such a mindset as no good can come out of it until repentance is granted by the Lord.
With these types the only recourse until repentance is manifested is to do what Paul says to do.
Rom. 16:17 - ( Do not interact with them and avoid them )
Because 1 Cor. 15:33 can occur -
And then Hebrews 12:15 can take place and thus many be defiled.
It is better to take the slander and leave it in the hands of the Lord then to interact with them. He alone is our defense and none of us are walking in all that is in our new creation in Christ yet. We all have un-renewed areas in our minds that need transformation to occur to manifest Christ outwardly.
We have this treasure ( Christ Himself ) in this earthen vessel so that the excellency of the power will be of God and not of ourselves.
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Are you the angel in all of this then? He openly caterwauls. You get in sneaky digs and pokes. You know how to push his every button. Many have tried to talk peaceably with you about this but you won't listen to your brothers and sisters any more than he will.
If one man insists none of the fault is ever his and all of the fault is someone elses, do you think anyone is going to believe him that he is perfect when all have had a view of the battle for many years now?
DcCon has received a message for all of us if we care to pay attention. Our tongues are out of control and more love is needed. And we know that if we lack anything, we just have to ask Him for what we need. Would we prefer to keep going our own way though?
If one man insists none of the fault is ever his and all of the fault is someone elses, do you think anyone is going to believe him that he is perfect when all have had a view of the battle for many years now?
DcCon has received a message for all of us if we care to pay attention. Our tongues are out of control and more love is needed. And we know that if we lack anything, we just have to ask Him for what we need. Would we prefer to keep going our own way though?
lol. If the issues were not fundamental to the faith, fine, but not real things.
Now the problem with these situations is I just respond to the details as presented.
I am not sure what peace you want to establish. Peace with heresy and sin? Peace with
apostacy, slander and lying? Peace with those who wish to justify their behaviour and
denial of obvious point, as if this is sensible, it is just pandering to pomposity. But then
empathetic people do this all the time.
Now I love the individual pushing these ideas but I will never compromise on them.
Part of the spiritual warfare is declaring who is ones authority.
Now the problem with these situations is I just respond to the details as presented.
I am not sure what peace you want to establish. Peace with heresy and sin? Peace with
apostacy, slander and lying? Peace with those who wish to justify their behaviour and
denial of obvious point, as if this is sensible, it is just pandering to pomposity. But then
empathetic people do this all the time.
Now I love the individual pushing these ideas but I will never compromise on them.
Part of the spiritual warfare is declaring who is ones authority.
