Are you RIGHTEOUS?

[stonesoffire]

First love is the love, the joy, the happiness one had in the beginning when born again. Here it faded, the fire was kindled and needed to be stirred to burn bright again. speaking of the holy ghost.

I agree..it's what I had in mind. Am not sure why my post stirred BillG though. Did I say something other than this? I thought of that first zeal...and we can lose this by trials...

I think of the promises of God and what He has done in the past. And live in daily worship of some kind, if it's just to say..I love you Father...I love you Jesus...and I love you Holy Spirit.

 

[mailmandan]

I dont know why this subject keeps coming up as controversial. We are saved BY grace FOR good works.Incredibly simple.

Simple indeed, yet certain people insist on trying to make it hard.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It seems eternal security is the same as unconditional security now.

If it is eternal, it must be unconditional, or else it could never be called eternal

only conditional , or non eternal security would have conditions,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I dont know why this subject keeps coming up as controversial. We are saved BY grace FOR good works.Incredibly simple.

It only comes comes up because people do not have faith god will change the person adopts, and sealed with his spirit, and promised he will complete the work he started.

And we who who have faith God will do all this, well ..

 

[BillG]

That's a good point BillG. I just don't know yet how to reconcile the passage in Revelations where He said to the church that they had lost their first love. Unless it's not a personal warning but to an assembly only..

I know He's always been with me through everything in life. I can even remember Him speaking to me when my daughter was in the hospital, and I wasn't even yet born again. Just believed in Him...

There's a lot that needs understood correctly and what I do know for sure...nothing can take us out of His hand.

Maybe this will help.


The NKJV study notes as follows

I know your works is a phrase that appears in each letter (vv. 9, 13, 19; 3:1, 8, 15), as a statement of recognition from the omniscient, omnipresent Judge.


2:4 The first love of the church may mean first in point of time, or first in importance. The greatest commandment is to “love the Lord your God” (Matt. 22:37, 38). Leaving the first love means a great diminishing of the church’s initial love, or a turning away from the love of the Lord.


2:5 Remember …from where you have fallen speaks of a considerable drop-off of love (v. 4) in the Ephesian church. A generation earlier the same church was commended for love (see Eph. 1:15, 16; 6:24), although it was also strongly commanded to grow in love (see Eph. 4:2, 15, 16). Repent means to change one’s thinking. It is clearly connected with changed behavior, as seen in the phrase and do the first works. The Ephesian Christians were to regain the lifestyle that they had before they departed from their first love (v. 4). To remove your lampstand would be to judge the church quickly or immediately.

Ephesians 1:15
Prayer for Spiritual Wisdom
15 Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints,

If you read the letter to the church Jesus actually commends them.


Revelation 2:2-4
2 “I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars; 3 and you have persevered and have patience, and have labored for My name's sake and have not become weary. 4 Nevertheless I have this against you, that you have left your first love.

Revelation 2:6
6 But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.




My limited thoughts are that actually they had lost their first love for each other.
They seemed to spending an lot of time defending the truth that maybe they had actually forgotten each other and not loving each other, if that is the case maybe as a result they were not not loving God either.

To walk in love is to have a relationship, is maybe they had actually become mechanical in what they were doing.

look at the following verses.

Ephesians 4:15-16
15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

Speaking the truth IN LOVE, which Jesus requires and which knits the whole body together and causes growth which reveals Jesus.

Maybe they were faithful to the word but actually not to each other.

I do think it was a warning to the Church.
A church that lacks love is a dead a church and a dead church is if no use to God, as it does not reveal the love of God.
If a church does not reveal the love of God people will not want to be part of it.

Therefore to me God is saying go back to the beginning, if you don't then there is no point this church being here, therefore I will remove it.

Just my simple thoughts.

 

[stonesoffire]

Maybe this will help.


The NKJV study notes as follows

I know your works is a phrase that appears in each letter (vv. 9, 13, 19; 3:1, 8, 15), as a statement of recognition from the omniscient, omnipresent Judge.


2:4 The first love of the church may mean first in point of time, or first in importance. The greatest commandment is to “love the Lord your God” (Matt. 22:37, 38). Leaving the first love means a great diminishing of the church’s initial love, or a turning away from the love of the Lord.


2:5 Remember …from where you have fallen speaks of a considerable drop-off of love (v. 4) in the Ephesian church. A generation earlier the same church was commended for love (see Eph. 1:15, 16; 6:24), although it was also strongly commanded to grow in love (see Eph. 4:2, 15, 16). Repent means to change one’s thinking. It is clearly connected with changed behavior, as seen in the phrase and do the first works. The Ephesian Christians were to regain the lifestyle that they had before they departed from their first love (v. 4). To remove your lampstand would be to judge the church quickly or immediately.

Ephesians 1:15
Prayer for Spiritual Wisdom
15 Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints,

If you read the letter to the church Jesus actually commends them.


Revelation 2:2-4
2 “I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars; 3 and you have persevered and have patience, and have labored for My name's sake and have not become weary. 4 Nevertheless I have this against you, that you have left your first love.

Revelation 2:6
6 But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.




My limited thoughts are that actually they had lost their first love for each other.
They seemed to spending an lot of time defending the truth that maybe they had actually forgotten each other and not loving each other, if that is the case maybe as a result they were not not loving God either.

To walk in love is to have a relationship, is maybe they had actually become mechanical in what they were doing.

look at the following verses.

Ephesians 4:15-16
15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

Speaking the truth IN LOVE, which Jesus requires and which knits the whole body together and causes growth which reveals Jesus.

Maybe they were faithful to the word but actually not to each other.

I do think it was a warning to the Church.
A church that lacks love is a dead a church and a dead church is if no use to God, as it does not reveal the love of God.
If a church does not reveal the love of God people will not want to be part of it.

Therefore to me God is saying go back to the beginning, if you don't then there is no point this church being here, therefore I will remove it.

Just my simple thoughts.

Not simple thoughts at all Bill. That explains it for me. Thanks..

~They seemed to spending an lot of time defending the truth that maybe they had actually forgotten each other and not loving each other, if that is the case maybe as a result they were not not loving God either

Good for us here to heed.

 

[FranC]

Why do you think this? I do not see that Jesus raised the bar, the bar was always the same, that's why no one could ever keep it, they could only appear to keep it,

jesus was telling you you can't obey the law, the law will always condemn you, because no one can keep it, you think you obeyed because you have not touched a woman, well in fact, if you look, you have broken the law,

he explained why the law, our works and such can not make us righteous, and why we need him,

I can think this because it's true.

Jesus did not lower the bar.
He raised it.

So easy to see, in your words. How come you make it difficult??

The bar has NOT Always been the same. Jesus wants a HEART change...He's not happy with you just following His commandments. This must be very difficult for you to accept because you feel that if the LAW could not be kept, then how on earth will it be possible to do this?

Now the New Covenant comes in.
Would it be possible for you to explain the New Covenant?

What's the big difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant?

1. We still have to keep the Law since Jesus said He did not come to abolish it but to fulfill it. That means TO MAKE IT MORE COMPLETE. To make it better. To internalize it instead of keeping it as external Law.

2. He raised the bar. Any one Worth his salt will confirm this. Anyone who really knows, I mean.

3. So if Jesus raised the bar, how could we possibly keep the Law?

You see EG, Jesus doesn't make things worse by raising he bar...He makes the more clear.

What He's saying is this: The O.C. was written in stone. The N.C. is written on the heart, and this is why it could be kept.

You should stop saying that the Law COULD NOT BE KEPT, and start thinking that maybe Jesus left us the Holy Spirit so that IT COULD BE KEPT.

 

[UnderGrace]

Here we go again...

This must be at least round 20....well at least I am sharpening my reading and debating skills..

Maybe someone will concede, see the light and agree that we have eternal security in Jesus...here is to hoping and praying!

I can think this because it's true.

Jesus did not lower the bar.
He raised it.

So easy to see, in your words. How come you make it difficult??

The bar has NOT Always been the same. Jesus wants a HEART change...He's not happy with you just following His commandments. This must be very difficult for you to accept because you feel that if the LAW could not be kept, then how on earth will it be possible to do this?

Now the New Covenant comes in.
Would it be possible for you to explain the New Covenant?

What's the big difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant?

1. We still have to keep the Law since Jesus said He did not come to abolish it but to fulfill it. That means TO MAKE IT MORE COMPLETE. To make it better. To internalize it instead of keeping it as external Law.

2. He raised the bar. Any one Worth his salt will confirm this. Anyone who really knows, I mean.

3. So if Jesus raised the bar, how could we possibly keep the Law?

You see EG, Jesus doesn't make things worse by raising he bar...He makes the more clear.

What He's saying is this: The O.C. was written in stone. The N.C. is written on the heart, and this is why it could be kept.

You should stop saying that the Law COULD NOT BE KEPT, and start thinking that maybe Jesus left us the Holy Spirit so that IT COULD BE KEPT.

 

[FranC]

Earlier Quote from FranC



Is your train of thought based on a smorgasbord theology? Just pick and choose elements of the complete law of Moses, and choose which ones work for you?

I pulled an older post where you claim Jesus abolished the law....well little bits of it.

Yet the Old Covenant is a complete and perfect Covenant. Where do you get the license to chop it up and have Jesus "abolish" only parts of it. Please show me where Jesus abolished ANY of the Law.


I have explained in the past my perspective on the Sermon on the Mount, which seems to be the starting point of your commandment obeying philosophy.

When in reality the sermon on the mount was a very important part of the ministry of Jesus, he fully explained to the Jews, his present audience, how utterly hopeless their attempts to be righteous were.

And to wait and see what He was about to accomplish on their (and eventually our) behalf.

He is pointing to the law as a teacher, to point them away from it and to His Grace and Mercy.

Now Grace and Mercy is NOT the levitical lite that you are pushing.

His Grace ushered in a new covenant which allows the Spirit of God to live and dwell within us, as it did not and could not under the law.

If you read His words as instructions on how to live the Christian life then I believe you fail to understand the New Covenant as explained by Paul in His new covenant writings. (Remember Paul, He was personally visited by Jesus after the finished work on the Cross).

You fail to see the chronology of events that occurred, and that ultimately skews your perspective of reality.

You quote only the letters of the apostles that were a witness to Christs teachings under the Old Covenant.

The purpose you give Christs Sermon on the Mount, is certainly different than the purpose for which He gave it.

Limey,

If you don't like what i say, you'll have to take it up with Christian theologians.
I didn't make up the rules...they were already here when I met up with Jesus.

Apparently you know nothing of the Old Testament Laws.
You could read up on them. It's all on Google, they need your money, use it.
I learned from Christian theologians --- I don't know where YOU got your information from.

Jesus DID abolish 2 of the 3 types of Law. I believe I explained it very well.
I'm used to explaining this stuff, I've taught it to adults. If you don't agree with Christianity and Jewish history, that's not my problem but yours.

IF you believe Jesus preached the Sermon on the Mount to show it could not be kept, Good Luck.
I've heard this before here on these threads and it's the MOST REDICULOUS idea I've ever heard except for Calvin's.

According to YOU:

Mathew 5:3
BLESSED ARE THE POOR IN SPIRIT
means the people won't be able to be poor in spirit....(when He was speaking to persons who WERE poor in spirit)

Mathew 5:4
BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO MOURN
means the people won't be able to mourn

Mathew 5.5
BLESSED ARE THE GENTLE
means the people won't be able to be gentle

Mathew 5:6
BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO HUNGER AND THIRST FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS
means that people do Not hunger and thirst for righteousness

Mathew 5:7
BLESSED ARE THE MERCIFUL
means that people cannot be merciful

Mathew 5.8
BLESSED ARE THE POOR IN HEART
means that people cannot be poor in heart

Mathew 5:9
BLESSED ARE THE PEACEMAKERS
maeans that people cannot be peacemakers

Mathew 5:10
BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN PERSECUTED
means that no one was ever persecuted


I sure hope those reading along can see what utter nonsense you have stated.

JESUS SAID WHAT HE MEANT AND MEANT WHAT HE SAID.
If He blessed the above persons, it means He expected them to be what HE WANTED THEM TO BE.

You have your psychology backwards.

So he came to earth to explain to people how UTTERLY HOPELESS their efforts were.

Let's see what JESUS says in John... How many times must I post this?

John 15:1-6
EVERY BRANCH IN ME THAT DOES NOT BEAR FRUIT, .....THE FATHER TAKES AWAY, IT IS THROWN AWAY AS A BRANC, AND DRIES UP, AND IS GATHERED AND CAST INTO THE FIRE AND ARE BURNED.

Also please read Ephesians 5:1:17

Does this mean that we ARE to do these evil deeds?
Do these commands sound like a request to you.

How about posting some scripture to back up your ideas.
I don't see any.

Remember to laern about the different Laws the Jews practiced in O.T. times...
I'll give you a clue (again):

Civil
Ceremonial
Moral

Two are now abolished.
Which do you think --- even without lookin it up...

 

[FranC]

If the gospel is connected to the 10 commandments how is it convoluted?

Obviously working at the 10 commandments is part of Righteousness if it is connected to the gospel.

If it is not connected to the gospel then working at the 10 commandments is not part of Righteousness.


You both say that the 10 commandments are tied to the gospel so how come you can't be straight-forward about this??? Is it because you don't understand your own position??

Or is it because it is too easy to refute your silliness when it is put into simple terms?

Please try speaking in a manner that is understandable to any English speaking person and maybe you'll get an answer.

I believe I can safely assume that your thinking mechanism is convoluted and I hold little hope of understanding you.

 

[FranC]

Does not matter....1 commandment, 2 commandments or 613 commandment are irrelevant if one must KEEP the commandment to get, keep or remain saved then one must keep them 24/7/365 your whole life or be found guilty of the whole law.....The bible is clear (Romans 3) the law DEEMS the hole world GUILTY that EVERY MOUTH may be stopped.....but now we SEE the righteousness of the LAW being manifested IN CHRIST and his righteousness is IMPUTED unto ALL who believe without the DEEDS OF THE LAW (Romans 3 and 4)..........

it is either FAITH/GRACE or it is WORKS.......end of story....those who choose WORKS reject GRACE.......and WORKS do not save, keep saved or embellish salvation.......!

One must keep the 613?

I thought you were familiar with the O.T.

 

[FranC]

By mashing the two covenants together you nullify the intended purpose of both.
There is a clear delineation of the two and you fail to see it. Pick one and truly live it.

I don't mash the two covenants together.
they're as different as night and day.

 

[FranC]

Yes it is tied, but not as you think

it Is tied is as either we follow them All completely, and never break one as Jesus did, or we are condemned by them and under a curse,

saying the law is tied in any their way is to take us back t law, and reject grace, Galatians was written to prove this very thing,

as is said in scripture, if your going to follow one command, your indebted to follow them all, and the fact is, you better not fail once, because as James said if you do, no matter how small a sin it is, your guilty of the whole law.

Are you trying to say:

He who lives by the Law
Will be judged by the Law.

??
See it was easy.

Of course, I don't live under the Law.
I live under grace.

 

[pottersclay]

I can think this because it's true.

Jesus did not lower the bar.
He raised it.

So easy to see, in your words. How come you make it difficult??

The bar has NOT Always been the same. Jesus wants a HEART change...He's not happy with you just following His commandments. This must be very difficult for you to accept because you feel that if the LAW could not be kept, then how on earth will it be possible to do this?

Now the New Covenant comes in.
Would it be possible for you to explain the New Covenant?

What's the big difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant?

1. We still have to keep the Law since Jesus said He did not come to abolish it but to fulfill it. That means TO MAKE IT MORE COMPLETE. To make it better. To internalize it instead of keeping it as external Law.

2. He raised the bar. Any one Worth his salt will confirm this. Anyone who really knows, I mean.

3. So if Jesus raised the bar, how could we possibly keep the Law?

You see EG, Jesus doesn't make things worse by raising he bar...He makes the more clear.

What He's saying is this: The O.C. was written in stone. The N.C. is written on the heart, and this is why it could be kept.

You should stop saying that the Law COULD NOT BE KEPT, and start thinking that maybe Jesus left us the Holy Spirit so that IT COULD BE KEPT.

.


Franc I have a problem with this perhaps you could help. As I see here in Matthew the scriptures tell a little different story. Jesus did not raise the bar but brought it back to it's original intent.
The Jewish leaders watered it down so that the law could be followed by the arm of the flesh. Jesus taught it the way God first intended it. Showing the impossibility of keeping it.
Including not only the actions but also being pure in heart on motive.
Jesus did say not one jot or tittle will be taken away untill all is fulfilled. Your comments?

 

[dcontroversal]

One must keep the 613?

I thought you were familiar with the O.T.

Fran....seems obvious you like to twist words and play games.....does no good to even address your remarks......and the points I made are clear......

Originally Posted by dcontroversal

Does not matter....1 commandment, 2 commandments or 613 commandment are irrelevant if one must KEEP the commandment to get, keep or remain saved then one must keep them 24/7/365 your whole life or be found guilty of the whole law.....The bible is clear (Romans 3) the law DEEMS the hole world GUILTY that EVERY MOUTH may be stopped.....but now we SEE the righteousness of the LAW being manifested IN CHRIST and his righteousness is IMPUTED unto ALL who believe without the DEEDS OF THE LAW (Romans 3 and 4)..........

it is either FAITH/GRACE or it is WORKS.......end of story....those who choose WORKS reject GRACE.......and WORKS do not save, keep saved or embellish salvation.......!

 

[FranC]

I dont know why this subject keeps coming up as controversial. We are saved BY grace FOR good works.Incredibly simple.

Are YOU willing to admit that good works are necessary as per Jesus' teachings?

 

[FranC]

Fran....seems obvious you like to twist words and play games.....does no good to even address your remarks......and the points I made are clear......

Originally Posted by dcontroversal

Does not matter....1 commandment, 2 commandments or 613 commandment are irrelevant if one must KEEP the commandment to get, keep or remain saved then one must keep them 24/7/365 your whole life or be found guilty of the whole law.....The bible is clear (Romans 3) the law DEEMS the hole world GUILTY that EVERY MOUTH may be stopped.....but now we SEE the righteousness of the LAW being manifested IN CHRIST and his righteousness is IMPUTED unto ALL who believe without the DEEDS OF THE LAW (Romans 3 and 4)..........

it is either FAITH/GRACE or it is WORKS.......end of story....those who choose WORKS reject GRACE.......and WORKS do not save, keep saved or embellish salvation.......!

Come on Dcon.
Let's have some scripture.

WORKS KEEP US SAVED.
JESUS SAID SO.

End of story.

 

[DiscipleDave]

Are you Righteous?

Before believing that you are Righteous or not it would behoove a person to study Scriptures and see what Scriptures teach what Righteous means.

Those who Love One Another are righteous.

Mat_25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
Mat_25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

God hears the prayers of the Righteous, but are against those who do evil things:

1Pe_3:12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.

Pro 15:29 The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.

Joh 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

Tell me, Does God answer your prayers or do they go unheard? Maybe the reason your prayers are not answered is because you are choosing to continue to live in sins which is NOT pleasing in his sight.

Those who do that which is Righteous, is righteous.

1Jn_3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

Children of God do that which is Righteous.
Children of the devil do that which is not righteous.

1Jn_3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Every verse in the BIBLE is given to us for instruction in Righteousness: (EVERY VERSE, not just some of them)

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

The desire of the Righteous is ONLY good, NOT doing that which is bad.

Pro 11:23 The desire of the righteous is only good: but the expectation of the wicked is wrath.

The Righteous sin not:

1Co 15:34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

Eze 3:21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul. (yeah, i know the thoughts of this generation, this was said in the Old Testament, therefore does not apply today. But tell me, wasn't Ezekiel a Major Prophet with messages to those in the end days?

Righteous man committing sin is wicked:

Pro 25:26 A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.

Eze 3:20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity (Sin), and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

Those who do unrighteousness, are UNRIGHTEOUS.
Those who do Righteousness, are RIGHTEOUS.
This generation claims with their mouths they are Righteous because of Jesus, but their deeds show they are unrighteous

Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Again, according to Scriptures, those who are Righteous, do things that are Righteous (because LOVE(Jesus) lives inside of them).
Those who do unrighteousness are unrighteous. And as much as this generation would like to believe, you can't be both Righteous and unrighteous. You are either one or the other, not both, either hot or cold. Luke warm are those who claim to be righteous even though they continue to do that which is unrighteous.

If Christ Truly is IN YOU, you will have love one for another.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave.com

 

[UnderGrace]

Do tell how many?

Should I set up a ledger of deposits and withdrawals, you know to see if I am in the red on works?

Come on Dcon.
Let's have some scripture.

WORKS KEEP US SAVED.
JESUS SAID SO.

End of story.

 

[Denadii]

Are you Righteous?

Before believing that you are Righteous or not it would behoove a person to study Scriptures and see what Scriptures teach what Righteous means.

Those who Love One Another are righteous.

Mat_25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
Mat_25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

God hears the prayers of the Righteous, but are against those who do evil things:

1Pe_3:12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.

Pro 15:29 The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.

Joh 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

Tell me, Does God answer your prayers or do they go unheard? Maybe the reason your prayers are not answered is because you are choosing to continue to live in sins which is NOT pleasing in his sight.

Those who do that which is Righteous, is righteous.

1Jn_3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

Children of God do that which is Righteous.
Children of the devil do that which is not righteous.

1Jn_3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Every verse in the BIBLE is given to us for instruction in Righteousness: (EVERY VERSE, not just some of them)

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

The desire of the Righteous is ONLY good, NOT doing that which is bad.

Pro 11:23 The desire of the righteous is only good: but the expectation of the wicked is wrath.

The Righteous sin not:

1Co 15:34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

Eze 3:21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul. (yeah, i know the thoughts of this generation, this was said in the Old Testament, therefore does not apply today. But tell me, wasn't Ezekiel a Major Prophet with messages to those in the end days?

Righteous man committing sin is wicked:

Pro 25:26 A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.

Eze 3:20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity (Sin), and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

Those who do unrighteousness, are UNRIGHTEOUS.
Those who do Righteousness, are RIGHTEOUS.
This generation claims with their mouths they are Righteous because of Jesus, but their deeds show they are unrighteous

Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Again, according to Scriptures, those who are Righteous, do things that are Righteous (because LOVE(Jesus) lives inside of them).
Those who do unrighteousness are unrighteous. And as much as this generation would like to believe, you can't be both Righteous and unrighteous. You are either one or the other, not both, either hot or cold. Luke warm are those who claim to be righteous even though they continue to do that which is unrighteous.

If Christ Truly is IN YOU, you will have love one for another.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

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I do believe that you forgot the most important scripture on that subject
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[h=1] 2 Corinthians 5:21 (KJV)
[/h] [SUP]21 [/SUP]For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

[h=1] 2 Corinthians 5:21 (CJB)
[/h] [SUP]21 [/SUP]God made this sinless man be a sin offering on our behalf, so that in union with him we might fully share in God’s righteousness.”

Jesus made us the righteousness of God and we didn't have to work for it. All we have to do is obey the Word.