Does God heal?

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Does God heal?


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God, the same yesterday ,today, and forever. his word never changes. a lot of Christians in this day and age hate to admit that the problem for not healing ,and casting out devils is lack of faith. Healing the sick, casting out demons, raising the dead and many other things are all miracles. It has not ended.ST. MARK;9; 39; Forbid him not; for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me..40; For he that is not against us is on our part. ACTS;19 ;11; And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul; 12; So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons,and the deseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them.
Nope. That's not it either. God is sovereign. If he is going to heal someone, he doesn't have to ask for their permission. The two times he did heal me my mind was all the way up to, "This probably isn't going to work, but what harm is there in trying?"

And the times he didn't heal me, I was sure he would. And, I must admit, a bit disgusted with him for not doing it at first.

Why? Mostly because people like you keep claiming "it's lack of faith," and I knew, for sure, I had faith.

Ultimately, I had to go with God is sovereign and people who preach "lack of faith" are wrong. If I'm going to get disgusted over not being healed, get disgusted at those who preach "lack of faith" in lieu of "God is sovereign."

When the gospel is whittled down to what man does, it is no gospel.
 

TruthTalk

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When the gospel is whittled down to what man does, it is no gospel.
I prayed, if it be your will please God extend my life, He did and my wife and I praise Jesus. The effects of the fall in the Garden of Eden continue on today, Jesus brought us back to God by His shedding of His blood on the cross. Garden lost, Garden found, not fully yet, praise Jesus!
 
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YES GOD HEALS! IVE ALSO BEEN HEALED THANK U JESUS THANK U LORD JESUS. HEAL THEM, HEAL ME, HEAL ALL JESUS
 
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Yes, Prayer does wonders, But according to his will only, And sometimes he says no..
You can find out if it's Gods will....Just read the bible. The most common complaint I hear when someone does not receive their healing is this. "I didn't get healed. and they told me it was because I did not have enough faith." Now you know and I know that that is a lot of rot. So you did not get healed. OK...Why not? You DO have enough fait. So then...What are you/we missing here? Let me ask you...do you know how faith works? If you don't, your faith could be sitting there like an old broken car for years without working for you. Faith is what makes things work, right? But what makes faith work? Look!
Galatians 5:6
For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
[h=1]Galatians 5:6 (NIV)[/h] [SUP]6 [/SUP]For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

Are you walking in Love? Without love, your faith will NOT WORK. So what to do? Walk in Love. Walk in the anointing that is on you. That's the same anointing that is on Jesus. He is love, let His love flow through you.
 
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Is It possible to believe and have unbelief at the same time?
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Mark 9:22-25
King James Version(KJV)

22.)And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us.

23.)Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

24.)And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
 

shittim

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I heard it once, "if you aren't expecting it , it is a miracle, if you are expecting it, it is a blessing".
best wishes
 
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joefizz

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Well, I'm not asking babies, politicians (or are there politicians roaming on here? :eek:), or 7.5 billion people. I'm asking those on this forum, and even there, only the ones who see the question and want to answer. It's based on what we believe/know. Just one person at a time. And what each of us personally believes.
politicians roaming???
well I could be considered a politician though my campaigns are always for God,and I would vote for him every year to be the leader of the whole world,I could see bill boards saying"God wants you for his army of devout believers,teachers,and spreaders of his word the bible!"but alas since people never put God on the ballet sheets I can't vote for him "officially" but praise God that I can vote for him as my leader "spiritually",and seek out more "recruits" for him,but in my book God has always been our leader and the winning vote in every election,what book is that???
The Bible,(under ownership physically it is my book,given to me by my dear grandfather!)
 
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My 2 cents worth on healing from a paper I wrote many yrs ago.

FAITH
DO YOU HAVE IT?
Do you even knowwhat Faith is, or what we are to be having FAITH in? I pondered these questionsand was surprised at what I found. The scriptures tell us to have faith for oursalvation, and that faith is not even ours Eph 2:8, for theFather gives us that, and again scripture tells us that if we have faith thesize of a mustard seed we could move mountains Matt.21: 21. So what is thisFAITH, where does it come from, and is it only from the Father above?
I once asked apastor friend about faith healing, he told me that if a person were weak intheir faith in the Father (Yah) they probably would not be healed. He said weare so tuned to man’s wisdom and his ways for healing. This made since, but isit true? and if this is correct then why do we look to man? Proverbs 2:1-22tells us that “Yahweh gives Wisdom”, and out of His mouth comes Knowledge andUnderstanding. In Hosea 14:9 scripture say’s “only the righteous hear Yah”, andagain in Hosea 4:6, it says my people are destroyed for a lack ofknowledge. Matt. 15:1-9 says they,(people) worship me in vain, for they teach the commandments of men, and keephis doctrines. We know this to be true. TV and magazine ads tell us to look toour doctors for help, and their medicines to keep us well. Lawyers are alwayseager to sue someone on your behalf, real estate people always say now is thetime to buy, and we can’t forget the banks, credit card and loan companies. Ican see where the scriptures are right on here.
Men’s values havechanged over time. It is believed by the mass population that there is asupreme being (a god), but most don’t believe in him for anything other thangoing to Heaven or to Hell. Many people go to “church” simply because they feelit is the right thing to do, or because their family or friends go, somebecause their pastor expects them to be there. They sing their songs, say theirprayers and say Amen and Halleluyah, but is this FAITH? 1Peter 1:18 says you arenot redeemed by tradition, and in Mark 7:8-13 you hold the traditions of men.
Faith is as in theNew Testament Words Dictionary: trust worthiness and faithful, fidelity andsteadiness, expectation and hope of what is believed.
Faith is defined as: a firm persuasion, a conviction basedupon hearing and an assurance in relation to Yah (God), as distinct from faithin man.
Did you know thatFAITH is a two way street. We all want and expect something from our HeavenlyFather, but did you know He wants and expects something from us in return?Hebrews 11: 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he thatcometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligentlyseek him. Have you ever stopped to thinkthat maybe our Father might want some recognition other than while you are inchurch for the things He has done for us? Lets look at the definition of faith;trust worthiness, we expect the Father to be TRUST WORTHY, but can he trustus to be trust worthy? He gave us a list of commandments to use as aguide so as to please Him. Do you know what they are? Most people will readilysay the 10 commandments but, do youknow what they are? Others will say we are no longer under these laws.Yasha (the Savior) said in Matt. 22, 'Love your Heavenly Father with all of your heart and with all your soul andwith all your mind.' This is the first and the greatest commandment. And thesecond is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Laws and theProphets are based on these two commandments." Did you grasp whatthis is saying? We are to put our Heavenly Father first before all things.Everything we do in life should be based on putting HIM our Heavenly Fatherfirst. Think about it, if He’s not first on your list of priorities then yournot going to be first on His either. TheFirst Commandment says you shall have no other gods before me. In Exodus 20,Yah states who He is and why He does not allow other gods before Him. He is thecreator of all life. He sent His son Yasha to be a sacrifice for us, and threwHIM; He offers us deliverance from slavery, or bondage, to self-indulgence andor self-destructive behavior (sin) Gal. 5: 19-26, 19 the works of the flesh aremanifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,20. Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred,variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21. Envying, murders, drunkenness, revellings,and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in timepast, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.22. But the fruit of the Spirit is love,joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23. Meekness, temperance: against such there isno law. 24. And they that are Christ'shave crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk inthe Spirit. 26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another,envying one another. Romans 16:26-27 But now is made manifest, and by thescriptures of the prophets, according to the commandments of the everlastingGod, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 27. To God only wise, be glory through Yasha theChrist for ever. Amen.
The fourth commandment says to remember the Sabbath day and keep itholy. Are you keeping the Sabbath? Or do you do your own thing? 2Tim. 2: sayseveryone (that means every individual) has to study the words of Yah, to showthemselves approved for the kingdom of Yah. Matt.18: 1-5 says you must becomeas little children to enter the Kingdom of God. Are you wondering what thatmeans to become as little children? Its rather simple actually, have youwatched a child at play? They are very inquisitive, always asking why this orwhy that, and they trust in things not seen or understood. Luke 16:15 say’sthat which is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of Yah.Things that you place a high value to; job, sports, entertainment, etc, theFather doesn’t place value on.
There is howevermuch value placed on FAITH in the scriptures, 2Cor. 5:7 for we walk by Faith,not by sight, it even goes on to say youcannot please the Father without FAITH.
So what have welearned about faith? You can’t please the Father without it. (Hebrews 11) It issomething that He has given to us (Rom. 12). We trust the Father to do thingsfor us by faith, Hebrews 11: 1 Faith is the substance of things hoped for, theevidence of things not seen. He has to be put at the top of our priority listif we wish to receive blessings from Him. 1Cor. 2:5 your faith should not standin the wisdom of men, but in the power of God (Yah).
 
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My 2 cents worth on healing from a paper I wrote many yrs ago.

FAITH
DO YOU HAVE IT?
Do you even knowwhat Faith is, or what we are to be having FAITH in? I pondered these questionsand was surprised at what I found. The scriptures tell us to have faith for oursalvation, and that faith is not even ours Eph 2:8, for theFather gives us that, and again scripture tells us that if we have faith thesize of a mustard seed we could move mountains Matt.21: 21. So what is thisFAITH, where does it come from, and is it only from the Father above?
I once asked apastor friend about faith healing, he told me that if a person were weak in their faith in the Father (Yah) they probably would not be healed. He said weare so tuned to man’s wisdom and his ways for healing. This made since, but isit true? and if this is correct then why do we look to man? Proverbs 2:1-22tells us that “Yahweh gives Wisdom”, and out of His mouth comes Knowledge andUnderstanding. In Hosea 14:9 scripture say’s “only the righteous hear Yah”, andagain in Hosea 4:6, it says my people are destroyed for a lack ofknowledge.Matt. 15:1-9 says they,(people) worship me in vain, for they teach the commandments of men, and keephis doctrines. We know this to be true. TV and magazine ads tell us to look toour doctors for help, and their medicines to keep us well. Lawyers are alwayseager to sue someone on your behalf, real estate people always say now is thetime to buy, and we can’t forget the banks, credit card and loan companies. Ican see where the scriptures are right on here.
Men’s values havechanged over time. It is believed by the mass population that there is asupreme being (a god), but most don’t believe in him for anything other thangoing to Heaven or to Hell. Many people go to “church” simply because they feelit is the right thing to do, or because their family or friends go, somebecause their pastor expects them to be there. They sing their songs, say theirprayers and say Amen and Halleluyah, but is this FAITH? 1Peter 1:18 says you arenot redeemed by tradition, and in Mark 7:8-13 you hold the traditions of men.
Faith is as in theNew Testament Words Dictionary: trust worthiness and faithful, fidelity andsteadiness, expectation and hope of what is believed.
Faith is defined as: a firm persuasion, a conviction basedupon hearing and an assurance in relation to Yah (God), as distinct from faithin man.
Did you know thatFAITH is a two way street. We all want and expect something from our HeavenlyFather, but did you know He wants and expects something from us in return?Hebrews 11: 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he thatcometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligentlyseek him.Have you ever stopped to thinkthat maybe our Father might want some recognition other than while you are inchurch for the things He has done for us? Lets look at the definition of faith;trust worthiness, we expect the Father to be TRUST WORTHY, but can he trustus to be trust worthy? He gave us a list of commandments to use as aguide so as to please Him. Do you know what they are? Most people will readilysay the 10 commandments but,do youknow what they are? Others will say we are no longer under these laws.Yasha (the Savior) said in Matt. 22, 'Love your Heavenly Father with all of your heart and with all your soul andwith all your mind.' This is the first and the greatest commandment. And thesecond is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Laws and theProphets are based on these two commandments." Did you grasp whatthis is saying? We are to put our Heavenly Father first before all things.Everything we do in life should be based on putting HIM our Heavenly Fatherfirst. Think about it, if He’s not first on your list of priorities then yournot going to be first on His either.TheFirst Commandment says you shall have no other gods before me. In Exodus 20,Yah states who He is and why He does not allow other gods before Him. He is thecreator of all life. He sent His son Yasha to be a sacrifice for us, and threwHIM; He offers us deliverance from slavery, or bondage, to self-indulgence andor self-destructive behavior (sin) Gal. 5: 19-26, 19 the works of the flesh aremanifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,20.Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred,variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21.Envying, murders, drunkenness, revellings,and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in timepast, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.22.But the fruit of the Spirit is love,joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23.Meekness, temperance: against such there isno law. 24.And they that are Christ'shave crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25.If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk inthe Spirit. 26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another,envying one another. Romans 16:26-27 But now is made manifest, and by thescriptures of the prophets, according to the commandments of the everlastingGod, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 27.To God only wise, be glory through Yasha theChrist for ever. Amen.
The fourth commandment says to remember the Sabbath day and keep itholy. Are you keeping the Sabbath? Or do you do your own thing? 2Tim. 2: sayseveryone (that means every individual) has to study the words of Yah, to showthemselves approved for the kingdom of Yah. Matt.18: 1-5 says you must becomeas little children to enter the Kingdom of God. Are you wondering what thatmeans to become as little children? Its rather simple actually, have youwatched a child at play? They are very inquisitive, always asking why this orwhy that, and they trust in things not seen or understood. Luke 16:15 say’sthat which is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of Yah.Things that you place a high value to; job, sports, entertainment, etc, theFather doesn’t place value on.
There is howevermuch value placed on FAITH in the scriptures, 2Cor. 5:7 for we walk by Faith,not by sight, it even goes on to sayyoucannot please the Father without FAITH.
So what have welearned about faith? You can’t please the Father without it. (Hebrews 11) It issomething that He has given to us (Rom. 12). We trust the Father to do thingsfor us by faith, Hebrews 11: 1 Faith is the substance of things hoped for, theevidence of things not seen. He has to be put at the top of our priority listif we wish to receive blessings from Him. 1Cor. 2:5 your faith should not standin the wisdom of men, but in the power of God (Yah).
I found this quite difficult to read, though what you wrote was not bad at all. I hope you don't mind? I cleaned it up a little bit.

Do you even know what Faith is, or what we are to be having FAITH in? I pondered these questions and was surprised at what I found. The scriptures tell us to have faith for our salvation, and that faith is not even ours Eph 2:8, for the Father gives us that, and again scripture tells us that if we have faith the size of a mustard seed we could move mountains Matt.21: 21. Therefore, what is this FAITH? Where does it come from? Moreover, is it only from the Father above?
I once asked a pastor friend about faith healing, he told me that if a person were weak in their faith in the Father (Yah) they probably would not be healed. He said we are so tuned to man’s wisdom and his ways for healing. This made since, but is it true? If this is correct then why do we look to man? Proverbs 2:1-22 tells us that “Yahweh gives Wisdom”, and out of His mouth comes Knowledge and Understanding. In Hosea 14:9 scripture say’s “only the righteous hear Yah”, and again in Hosea 4:6, it says my people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge. Matt. 15:1-9 says they, (people) worship me in vain, for they teach the commandments of men, and keep his doctrines. We know this to be true. TV and magazine ads tell us to look to our doctors for help, and their medicines to keep us well. Lawyers are always eager to sue someone on your behalf, real estate people always say now is the time to buy, and we can’t forget the banks, credit card and loan companies. I can see where the scriptures are right on here.
Men’s values have changed over time. It is believed by the mass population that there is a supreme being (a god), but most don’t believe in him for anything other than going to Heaven or to Hell. Many people go to “church” simply because they feel it is the right thing to do, or because their family or friends go, some because their pastor expects them to be there. They sing their songs, say their prayers and say Amen and Hallelujah, but, is this FAITH? 1Peter 1:18 says you are not redeemed by tradition, and in Mark 7:8-13 you hold the traditions of men.
Faith is as in the New Testament Words Dictionary: trust worthiness and faithful, fidelity and steadiness, expectation and hope of what is believed.
Faith is defined as: a firm persuasion, a conviction based upon hearing and an assurance in relation to Yah (God), as distinct from faith in man.
Did you know that FAITH is a two way street. We all want and expect something from our Heavenly Father, but did you know He wants and expects something from us in return? Hebrews 11: 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Have you ever stopped to think that maybe our Father might want some recognition other than while you are in church for the things He has done for us? Let’s look at the definition of faith; trust worthiness, we expect the Father to be TRUST WORTHY, but can he trust us to be trust worthy? He gave us a list of commandments to use as a guide so as to please Him. Do you know what they are? Most people will readily say the 10 commandments but,do you know what they are? Others will say we are no longer under these laws. Yasha (the Savior) said in Matt. 22, 'Love your Heavenly Father with all of your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and the greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Laws and the Prophets are based on these two commandments." Did you grasp what this is saying? We are to put our Heavenly Father first before all things. Everything we do in life should be based on putting HIM our Heavenly Father first. Think about it, if He’s not first on your list of priorities then you’re not going to be first on His either. The First Commandment says you shall have no other gods before me. In Exodus 20, Yah states who He is and why He does not allow other gods before Him. He is the creator of all life. He sent His son Yasha to be a sacrifice for us, and through HIM; He offers us deliverance from slavery, or bondage, to self-indulgence and or self-destructive behavior (sin) Gal. 5: 19-26, 19 the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,20.Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21.Envying, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.22.But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23.Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25.If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another. Romans 16:26-27 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandments of the ever lasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 27.To God only wise, be glory through Yasha the Christ forever. Amen.
The fourth commandment says to remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy. Are you keeping the Sabbath? On the other hand, do you do your own thing? 2Tim. 2: says everyone (that means every individual) has to study the words of Yah, to show themselves approved for the kingdom of Yah. Matt.18: 1-5 says you must become as little children to enter the Kingdom of God. Are you wondering what that means to become as little children? It’s rather simple actually, have you watched a child at play? They are very inquisitive, always asking why this or why that, and they trust in things not seen or understood. Luke 16:15 say’s that which is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of Yah. Things that you place a high value to; job, sports, entertainment, etc., the Father doesn’t place value on.
There is however much value placed on FAITH in the scriptures, 2Cor. 5:7 for we walk by Faith, not by sight; it even goes on to say you cannot please the Father without FAITH.
Therefore, what have we learned about faith? You can’t please the Father without it. (Hebrews 11) It is something that He has given to us (Rom. 12). We trust the Father to do things for us by faith, Hebrews 11: 1 Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. He has to be put at the top of our priority list if we wish to receive blessings from Him. 1Cor. 2:5 your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God (Yah).

I probably missed a few mistakes in your writing. If you have more studies like this, you might want to post them too.
 
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Blain

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You know last night the ambulance and firefighters came to my house because a lady who is staying with us has very severe nerve pain along with other medical problems that cause her pain, she takes very heavy sleeping medication and also very heavy pain killers but she didn't have any last night and so I come downstairs to what sounds like screaming bloody murder and shouts of utter agony and I see her thrashing about and screaming in pain but she is so zonked out from her sleeping medicine that she won't wake up she just keeps screaming and thrashing about in pain.

There was nothing I could do but sit there cry and worry about her as the ambulances were on their way no prayer i spoke could do anything for her and I honestly was angry with God saying to him this is why I wish you gave me the gift of healing. I cannot stand to see others in pain and suffer and especially so at this kind of level not being able to do anything for them, I don't understand him sometimes like why he would not heal her or at least use me to do it but even though it was hard I simply trusted he knew what he was doing.

Does God heal? yes. Does he do it when we ask? not always. is it confusing why he allows others to suffer so greatly while you sit there feeling useless only able to cry and pray for them? HECK YES. But you see it wasn't that I was lacking in faith it wasn't anything hindering that didn't allow her to be healed sometimes even if it hurts even it seems like it's the obvious right choice his will does not always mean what we think it does and as confusing agitating and sad as it might be trusting him is vital. For all I know he is allowing her to go through this to use her later on in life, but last night was living proof for me that sometimes we can have all the faith in the world but that doesn't mean that healing will happen at that moment
 
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You know last night the ambulance and firefighters came to my house because a lady who is staying with us has very severe nerve pain along with other medical problems that cause her pain, she takes very heavy sleeping medication and also very heavy pain killers but she didn't have any last night and so I come downstairs to what sounds like screaming bloody murder and shouts of utter agony and I see her thrashing about and screaming in pain but she is so zonked out from her sleeping medicine that she won't wake up she just keeps screaming and thrashing about in pain.

There was nothing I could do but sit there cry and worry about her as the ambulances were on their way no prayer i spoke could do anything for her and I honestly was angry with God saying to him this is why I wish you gave me the gift of healing. I cannot stand to see others in pain and suffer and especially so at this kind of level not being able to do anything for them, I don't understand him sometimes like why he would not heal her or at least use me to do it but even though it was hard I simply trusted he knew what he was doing.

Does God heal? yes. Does he do it when we ask? not always. is it confusing why he allows others to suffer so greatly while you sit there feeling useless only able to cry and pray for them? HECK YES. But you see it wasn't that I was lacking in faith it wasn't anything hindering that didn't allow her to be healed sometimes even if it hurts even it seems like it's the obvious right choice his will does not always mean what we think it does and as confusing agitating and sad as it might be trusting him is vital. For all I know he is allowing her to go through this to use her later on in life, but last night was living proof for me that sometimes we can have all the faith in the world but that doesn't mean that healing will happen at that moment
Personally I don't think you were lacking faith either. You have just as much faith as anyone else. So what was missing? God, our Father said. "My people are destroyed because of lack of knowledge. So Blain, ask Him to forgive you for getting frustrated with Him and ask Him what was missing. Was it you? Was it the Lady? But it definitely was not a lack of faith. All Christians have all the gifts when needed. Lack of knowledge can kill.
 

Blain

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Personally I don't think you were lacking faith either. You have just as much faith as anyone else. So what was missing? God, our Father said. "My people are destroyed because of lack of knowledge. So Blain, ask Him to forgive you for getting frustrated with Him and ask Him what was missing. Was it you? Was it the Lady? But it definitely was not a lack of faith. All Christians have all the gifts when needed. Lack of knowledge can kill.
There was nothing missing, the fact of the matter is he knew what what was best even if it meant she would not be healed, there is no such thing as limitations with him
 
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There was nothing missing, the fact of the matter is he knew what what was best even if it meant she would not be healed, there is no such thing as limitations with him
The fact of the matter is we have been healed for the last two thousand years. Its already done. By Jesus stripes we were healed. 1 Pete 2:24 So does God heal? Yes! Every single time. If we don't see healing, its us that are missing something. There is NO precedent in the bible showing God refusing to heal anybody. Where did He change?
 

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The fact of the matter is we have been healed for the last two thousand years. Its already done. By Jesus stripes we were healed. 1 Pete 2:24 So does God heal? Yes! Every single time. If we don't see healing, its us that are missing something. There is NO precedent in the bible showing God refusing to heal anybody. Where did He change?
Maybe to you healing and miracles are based upon us but luckily God does not care what we ourselves are lacking because he isn't. Do you know how many things I myself need healing of? my body is a train wreck because of how my life happened and yes I have many times asked for healing and many have also asked for my healing however never once have i ever been healed nor have I have ever once seen him heal anyone, yet he uses my pain and my illness daily to help others and to strengthen others who are feeling weak and losing hope cause of their pain and illnesses, daily he uses what could have been healed to help heal the inner wounds and sicknesses inside others.

I thank him that he never healed me, when I begged for healing I never saw what he did I never saw how he was going to use all that I struggle with. I don't believe in the answer always being yes and I don't believe he always heals simply because of how much he has used all I deal with to help others. There is more than one kind of healing my friend.
 
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Maybe to you healing and miracles are based upon us but luckily God does not care what we ourselves are lacking because he isn't. Do you know how many things I myself need healing of? my body is a train wreck because of how my life happened and yes I have many times asked for healing and many have also asked for my healing however never once have i ever been healed nor have I have ever once seen him heal anyone, yet he uses my pain and my illness daily to help others and to strengthen others who are feeling weak and losing hope cause of their pain and illnesses, daily he uses what could have been healed to help heal the inner wounds and sicknesses inside others.

I thank him that he never healed me, when I begged for healing I never saw what he did I never saw how he was going to use all that I struggle with. I don't believe in the answer always being yes and I don't believe he always heals simply because of how much he has used all I deal with to help others. There is more than one kind of healing my friend.
Our healing is not based on us. It's based on His love for us.
Exodus 15:26 Mark 11:23-24
Exodus 23:25 Mark 16:17-18
Deuteronomy 7:15 John 10:10
Deuteronomy 28:1-14, 61 Romans 4:17-20

Deuteronomy 30:19-20 Romans 8:11
I Kings 8:56 2 Corinthians 10:4-5
Psalm 91:16 Galatians 3:13-14
Psalm 103:3 Ephesians 6:10-17
Psalm 107:20 Philippians 2:13
Psalm 118:17 Philippians 4:6-7
Proverbs 4:20-23 II Timothy 1:7
Isaiah 41:10 Hebrews 10:23
Isaiah 53:4-5 Hebrews 10:35
Jeremiah 1:12 Hebrews 11:11
Jeremiah 30:17 Hebrews 13:8
Joel 3:10 James 5:14-15
Nahum 1:9 I Peter 2: 24
Matthew 8:2-3 I John 3:21-22
Matthew 8:17 III John 2
Matthew 18:18-19 Revelations 12:11
Matthew 21:21

These are just a start. TAke them and go from there
 

Billyd

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God told us that faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains.

I had a big hole in my driveway and a mound of dirt in the back of my yard. I asked God to move the dirt from the mound to the hole. No sooner than I had asked, I heard a small voice, Billy, get that backhoe that I provided you and move all the dirt you need. I did what he said. Because I listened, my faith moved that mound of dirt.

The same is true with sickness. Faith in God will heal you. When you ask, listen for his answer. When he tells you to go see that doctor that he has trained to heal you, go. Just remember, God's definition of healing may not be yours. The same God that told us that faith the size of a mustard seed will move mountains, is also the same God that told us that when we are weakest, he is strongest.
 
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There was nothing I could do but sit there cry and worry about her as the ambulances were on their way no prayer i spoke could do anything for her and I honestly was angry with God saying to him this is why I wish you gave me the gift of healing.

This totally negates the prayer. There is no point claiming you put your trust and faith in the Lord and praying to Him and then turning around in the next breath you draw, worrying, being angry with Him and not trust Him.

The whole idea is that when you put your faith and trust in anyone, including our Lord, you turn it over to them. You don't keep running back demanding, distrusting, being angry - once you pray, you put it in His hands and you claim that peace. "I have prayed, I love you Lord, thankyou for working in this situation, I know You'll work it for the best, In Jesus Name!" and you go on about your life with peace not trying to do the work that you've asked Him to do. Show your faith and trust in Jesus by 1) believing in Him 2) not thinking that He can't or won't do the job properly 3) not believing you can do the job better than Him 4) not being angry He hasn't done it in your way or timing.


 
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This totally negates the prayer. There is no point claiming you put your trust and faith in the Lord and praying to Him and then turning around in the next breath you draw, worrying, being angry with Him and not trust Him.

The whole idea is that when you put your faith and trust in anyone, including our Lord, you turn it over to them. You don't keep running back demanding, distrusting, being angry - once you pray, you put it in His hands and you claim that peace. "I have prayed, I love you Lord, thankyou for working in this situation, I know You'll work it for the best, In Jesus Name!" and you go on about your life with peace not trying to do the work that you've asked Him to do. Show your faith and trust in Jesus by 1) believing in Him 2) not thinking that He can't or won't do the job properly 3) not believing you can do the job better than Him 4) not being angry He hasn't done it in your way or timing.


Ah! Now we're learning.
 

Blain

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This totally negates the prayer. There is no point claiming you put your trust and faith in the Lord and praying to Him and then turning around in the next breath you draw, worrying, being angry with Him and not trust Him.

The whole idea is that when you put your faith and trust in anyone, including our Lord, you turn it over to them. You don't keep running back demanding, distrusting, being angry - once you pray, you put it in His hands and you claim that peace. "I have prayed, I love you Lord, thankyou for working in this situation, I know You'll work it for the best, In Jesus Name!" and you go on about your life with peace not trying to do the work that you've asked Him to do. Show your faith and trust in Jesus by 1) believing in Him 2) not thinking that He can't or won't do the job properly 3) not believing you can do the job better than Him 4) not being angry He hasn't done it in your way or timing.


I was angry only because he didn't heal her at that time but upon more contemplation I realized he sees the bigger picture not me. Yes i was worried yes I was confused yes I was a little angry at first that he didn't heal her or rather I suppose I was more angry that here was this women suffering intensely and I could do nothing but cry and pray for her. But miracles healing and prayer are not dependent on how we are doing emotionally and neither is our faith, it was my faith in him that mattered not the faith I had that the answer would be yes. David himself would sometimes cry out to him in frustration yet did that affect God's workings? no it didn't. Like David I am honest with god even if I am agitated with him however my faith is not measured on the answer of the prayer itself it is measured on how much i believe in him.

You can say I was not having faith but I do not hide what I feel from God I am completely honest with him and if prayer or our faith is affected merely by us being honest with him then it sounds like we cannot express ourselves to him if we want to see a miracle. Sometimes it takes more faith to ask and not receive than it does to ask and receive
 
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I was angry only because he didn't heal her at that time but upon more contemplation I realized he sees the bigger picture not me. Yes i was worried yes I was confused yes I was a little angry at first that he didn't heal her or rather I suppose I was more angry that here was this women suffering intensely and I could do nothing but cry and pray for her. But miracles healing and prayer are not dependent on how we are doing emotionally and neither is our faith, it was my faith in him that mattered not the faith I had that the answer would be yes. David himself would sometimes cry out to him in frustration yet did that affect God's workings? no it didn't. Like David I am honest with god even if I am agitated with him however my faith is not measured on the answer of the prayer itself it is measured on how much i believe in him.

You can say I was not having faith but I do not hide what I feel from God I am completely honest with him and if prayer or our faith is affected merely by us being honest with him then it sounds like we cannot express ourselves to him if we want to see a miracle. Sometimes it takes more faith to ask and not receive than it does to ask and receive
Worry is fear, the opposite of faith. Ok Blain its a learning experience with no bad word said about you. LOL Just like everyone else you've got it to learn. Truthfully? I've been where you were last night. I got afraid too. and missed the miracle. If I may, I suggest you get into those verses I shared with you, There are maybe another hundred or so about healing. Study them. Now you know that you know that you know why God gave us the promise of healing and why we need to know His Word about it. Hugs on you my friend. Believe the Word, not silly churchy doctrines.