Its a Deadly Wrong!
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You want some truth I don't fear exposing my flaws when in it come too responses. And these are probably done by others, yea I know I've seen it that's why I'm speaking on it.
1. When someone makes a thread that is 98% of what was posted I agree, yet the 2% that I don't agree I have to point that out as some major issue, really, no not really, I shouldn't do that,
2. If I disagree with someone and it's goes heated, I shouldn't search them out and start picking on them, because my mind went bias all of a sudden.
3. I should apologize when I'm wrong, mostly I do, sometimes I don't, though this is something that is super rare among people is it not? just saying... being told your wrong isn't a easy pill to swallow I know hehe...
1. When someone makes a thread that is 98% of what was posted I agree, yet the 2% that I don't agree I have to point that out as some major issue, really, no not really, I shouldn't do that,
2. If I disagree with someone and it's goes heated, I shouldn't search them out and start picking on them, because my mind went bias all of a sudden.
3. I should apologize when I'm wrong, mostly I do, sometimes I don't, though this is something that is super rare among people is it not? just saying... being told your wrong isn't a easy pill to swallow I know hehe...
Nothing wrong with debating. We learn to Find real meaning of the word.
as long AS we do It in a love Maner. The main teaching of the bible is love.
so If we debate the bible without love, we mis the point. Like to try to fix a car end up to make even worse. One day my wife try to fix her old car, The car was running, only the radio not working, after fixing, not only the radio not working, the head light always on
try to solve a problem, end up with more problem.
debate to make people love each other, do not make It into hate each other.
if so, we are defying the direction.
as long AS we do It in a love Maner. The main teaching of the bible is love.
so If we debate the bible without love, we mis the point. Like to try to fix a car end up to make even worse. One day my wife try to fix her old car, The car was running, only the radio not working, after fixing, not only the radio not working, the head light always on
try to solve a problem, end up with more problem.
debate to make people love each other, do not make It into hate each other.
if so, we are defying the direction.
R
It honestly isn't name calling or accusation that bothers me. I am extremely annoyed by people who are passive aggressive, won't give a straight answer, or act deliberately obtuse about the subject. If I tell you three times that the sky is blue, and you're still repeating "Ramah believes in a pink sky" then there is no point for me to keep engaging you.
Also I'm annoyed when people defend their position by refusing to agree on even reasonable evidence. I link to a thoroughly researched time-honored teaching material from a highly respected minister, and they instantly work to dismantle it by whatever means possible.
Lastly, I get really annoyed when someone solicits for "opinions" about a topic, and then they immediately argue on all the reasons why everyone is wrong. Did you want my opinion or did you just want debate fodder? Be honest.
Also I'm annoyed when people defend their position by refusing to agree on even reasonable evidence. I link to a thoroughly researched time-honored teaching material from a highly respected minister, and they instantly work to dismantle it by whatever means possible.
Lastly, I get really annoyed when someone solicits for "opinions" about a topic, and then they immediately argue on all the reasons why everyone is wrong. Did you want my opinion or did you just want debate fodder? Be honest.
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Some good points made, and I've felt those myself as well, I think at the end of the day, we will never get everybody to believe the sky is blue, it's just that facts of life, Jesus went through the same things you mentioned,
As myself as well need to control my thoughts and not let things get to a point of myself being annoyed about, that would be letting the other person get under my skin about it, that's not healthy for my own well being IMO.
As myself as well need to control my thoughts and not let things get to a point of myself being annoyed about, that would be letting the other person get under my skin about it, that's not healthy for my own well being IMO.
Hi Denadii, I was a volunteer assistant to a missionary family who lived with the Hmong mountain people in Thailand. My wife is Thai and Through our church we would all go by mini bus to present the Gospel to those willing to hear the message and then return home the same day. I say this because my wife and I are not a missionary in the traditional sense of the word. It was in a very relaxed setting in the comfort of their world and of course they were as curious about us as we were about them. So I suppose this is one example of proclaiming the Gospel. God bless
The color board is an example of how the Gospel was presented in a more tangible and understandable way.
The color board is an example of how the Gospel was presented in a more tangible and understandable way.
Let me ask you.....Do you know how many non Christians, or new Christians have come in here, seen all the strife and have left, turned their backs on Jesus because of it? No? Neither do I but listen! Its the LOVE of Jesus that draws them, not the strife. Our witness through strife, glorifies Satan, not Jesus. On the other hand, when they visit us here, if they find Love is the driving force in our converstations, they will stay, and they will be drawn to our Jesus.
Which do you prefer?
Which do you prefer?
Here is a good example of what I have been saying. "Paul contended, debated so it must be good." Ref Acts 18:28 Here is a man debating the Word, but He has it wrong. How does that help or grow anybody?
Paul did NOT argue, contend or debate the Jews proving the scriptures in this case at least. It was a man names Apollo. He knew the Word very well, and used it to convince the Jews that Jesus is messiah. He did not debate, he taught.
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Acts 18:24-28
[/SUP]Meanwhile, a Jewish man named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus. He was an eloquent speaker with a thorough knowledge of the Tanakh. [SUP]25 [/SUP]This man had been informed about the Way of the Lord, and with great spiritual fervor he spoke and taught accurately the facts about Yeshua, but he knew only the immersion of Yochanan. [SUP]26 [/SUP]He began to speak out boldly in the synagogue; but when Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they took him aside and explained to him the Way of God in fuller detail. [SUP]27 [/SUP]When he made plans to cross over into Achaia, the brothers encouraged him and wrote the talmidim there to welcome him. On arrival, he greatly helped those who through grace had come to trust; [SUP]28 [/SUP]for he powerfully and conclusively refuted the unbelieving Jews in public, demonstrating by the Tanakh that Yeshua is the Messiah.
What good is it to argue, debate, contend when we get it all wrong? Lets discuss the Word and help each other get it right.
Whatchatink?
Paul did NOT argue, contend or debate the Jews proving the scriptures in this case at least. It was a man names Apollo. He knew the Word very well, and used it to convince the Jews that Jesus is messiah. He did not debate, he taught.
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Acts 18:24-28
[/SUP]Meanwhile, a Jewish man named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus. He was an eloquent speaker with a thorough knowledge of the Tanakh. [SUP]25 [/SUP]This man had been informed about the Way of the Lord, and with great spiritual fervor he spoke and taught accurately the facts about Yeshua, but he knew only the immersion of Yochanan. [SUP]26 [/SUP]He began to speak out boldly in the synagogue; but when Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they took him aside and explained to him the Way of God in fuller detail. [SUP]27 [/SUP]When he made plans to cross over into Achaia, the brothers encouraged him and wrote the talmidim there to welcome him. On arrival, he greatly helped those who through grace had come to trust; [SUP]28 [/SUP]for he powerfully and conclusively refuted the unbelieving Jews in public, demonstrating by the Tanakh that Yeshua is the Messiah.
What good is it to argue, debate, contend when we get it all wrong? Lets discuss the Word and help each other get it right.
Whatchatink?
Hi Denadii, I was a volunteer assistant to a missionary family who lived with the Hmong mountain people in Thailand. My wife is Thai and Through our church we would all go by mini bus to present the Gospel to those willing to hear the message and then return home the same day. I say this because my wife and I are not a missionary in the traditional sense of the word. It was in a very relaxed setting in the comfort of their world and of course they were as curious about us as we were about them. So I suppose this is one example of proclaiming the Gospel. God bless
The color board is an example of how the Gospel was presented in a more tangible and understandable way.
The color board is an example of how the Gospel was presented in a more tangible and understandable way.
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Good post, it's great example of how it's not easy to express Emotions in words, you believe your version of the bible you read that Apollos as a Eloquent speaker which indeed I agree, but that is surely not saying when he spoke to the Jews in a powerfully and conclusively refuted way, to say that was without debating. That's your opinion.
My opinion is it was a debate and wasn't a easy friendly conversation. Paul was known to be quite The Debater.
My opinion is it was a debate and wasn't a easy friendly conversation. Paul was known to be quite The Debater.
B
The turning over the tables was the right thing to do no doubt, but I've often wondered on how would a person drive people away with a whip of cords, does the person swing it at other people to chase them off, or actually beat them with it?
John 2:15
And making a whip of cords, he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables
John 2:15
And making a whip of cords, he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables
I'd much rather you stay in here than to go out and preach your false gospel of wealth and health to others, appealing to their flesh and to covetousness, not of the true Gospel which appeals to their lost state in need of salvation from their sin.
It would be better for you to stay here and learn the true Gospel, if possible.
It would be better for you to stay here and learn the true Gospel, if possible.
