Not By Works
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It does no good to give you the verse...you will reject it and make some snide comment.....your problem is simple...you cannot, nor will you receive any verse that contradicts your stance.......Jesus states clearly that he chose the 12 and ONE WAS A DEVIL and that one is called the SON OF PERDITION and a THIEF WHO HOLDS THE BAG.....He was chosen as a LOST MAN ON PURPOSE to fulfill Scripture and SELL JESUS OUT FOR 30 SILVERS ........
J
no Jesus didn't make a mistake he chose Judas Iscariot(there is another Judas for those who don't know)just like the other disciples but he was aware that Judas Iscariot would betray him,and knew satan would use Judas Iscariot,but as dcontroversal pointed out there are times that point to why Judas Iscariot could be tempted by satan to betray Jesus,the simplest being,money,it's not as if to say that Judas didn't follow Jesus devoutly like the other disciples he was simply the most "vulnerable" to satan is what is to be understood,for remember after betraying Jesus he "realized" what he had done and threw the money back to the Pharisees that he accepted to betray Jesus,though Jesus himself said"it were better that such a man not have been born" concerning whom would betray him speaking of Judas Iscariot,despite that it was meant to be that one of his disciples would betray him.
J
so you just immediately understood and comprehended entirely every word spoken to you or that you read from the bible?
I was speaking on the "spiritual" sense,not intelligence,think it over more,it's easy to just speak something,it's wiser to think out one's words or better yet allow the Holy spirit to speak through you.
I was speaking on the "spiritual" sense,not intelligence,think it over more,it's easy to just speak something,it's wiser to think out one's words or better yet allow the Holy spirit to speak through you.
J
well that explains alot then,anyone can simply "read" the bible and go and just claim to be self approved but to "Truly" understand God's word you need God for the interpretation of his word which is not limited to simply the bible but what God has spoken,"for in the beginning was the word and the word was God" it's easy to just,read,hear,then teach,but if you don't have God by way of the holy spirit for answers then you've still yet to learn God's word,you've barely begun learning.
Matthew 4
1Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. 2And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. 3And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. 4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
5Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
6And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
7Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. 11Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.
'not by works'
It is written:
Revelation 22
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Be careful not to confuse the verses that Teach the New Testament in place of the Old and all its required works.
2 Peter 3
4Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 15And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16As also in all hisepistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they doalso the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18But grow in grace, and inthe knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
1Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. 2And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. 3And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. 4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
5Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
6And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
7Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. 11Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.
'not by works'
It is written:
Revelation 22
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Be careful not to confuse the verses that Teach the New Testament in place of the Old and all its required works.
2 Peter 3
4Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 15And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16As also in all hisepistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they doalso the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18But grow in grace, and inthe knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.