Cessationism and Mental Illness

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"I am a cessationist and..."

  • I have been diagnosed with mental illness.

    Votes: 1 100.0%
  • I have been screened by a mental health professional and have not been diagnosed.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I suspect I may have a mental illness but have avoided diagnoses.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • friends or relatives suspect I have mental illness, but I have avoided diagnoses.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    1
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7seasrekeyed

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#21
I seriously doubt the Holy Spirit would guide a person to create such a poll

hmmm

does that mean you only post if you believe you have direct orders to do so from the Holy Spirit?
 

shittim

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one who hates Christ, and there are only 2 kingdoms, His of light and that of darkness
 
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7seasrekeyed

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What a nice Christian way to approach such a topic....


You know, I logged on here today to request prayers for my cousin and his congregation. There was a mass shooting at a church in Tennessee yesterday. My cousin was the minister there. He, his wife, along with others were shot. One lady died. I came here to ask for prays for not only the victims but the shooter. After this vile thread im very discouraged.

I saw your post

in no way, shape or form is any sort of disrespect intended by what I am about to post

how would you expect everyone here to know the seriousness of your post and immediately reflect on that?

this thread is a reflection on another thread...nothing to do with your post and most certainly not intended to make light of the situation you have described

let's not bash someone because they did not happen to see your post and decided never to make light of a debatable subject again

you can bash me now. I won't take it personally
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I never said you didn't.

you do understand that we are allowed to make many choices without the Holy Spirit telling us what to do, right?

that was my actual point in response to your post

an example of how that is a true statement with regard to our freedom to chose so many things, would be the fact that we have different tastes in food. God made us individuals and He respects that fact

I wish more Christians would do the same and quit telling others how they think they ought to behave and then try to put weight on their personal convictions by saying EVERYONE should.

You really shouldn't do anything without the holy spirit guiding you.
I am trying to point out to you that your all inclusive statement is your personal view. Most of us can tie our shoelaces without asking first if we should.

not trying to be sarcastic, but really, saying what you did, is your personal disapproval of the thread. the Holy Spirit did not tell you to write that

long explanation, and prob my last concerning your post
 

Elizabeth619

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#28
I saw your post

in no way, shape or form is any sort of disrespect intended by what I am about to post

how would you expect everyone here to know the seriousness of your post and immediately reflect on that?

this thread is a reflection on another thread...nothing to do with your post and most certainly not intended to make light of the situation you have described

let's not bash someone because they did not happen to see your post and decided never to make light of a debatable subject again

you can bash me now. I won't take it personally
this is supposed to be a Christian website. Not a site where people are mocked and bashed who don't agree with others doctrine. This place is to be for edification and uplifting one another up. Not to be insulted. No Christian should EVER do that. Whether I commented about the shooting or not the content of this thread is vile. This thread was obviously created to show contention. The content proves that. This didn't happen on accident.
 
Mar 28, 2016
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I was wondering how many of you who are cessationists, who do not believe in I Corinthians 12 gifts operating in this day and age have been diagnosed or have ever demonstrated symptoms of mental illness.
It would depend on how you would define mental illness? Schizophrenia is a Greek word that means to split the mind. This would be between the imaginations of one self and the reality of the world around us.Bipolar would be to vaccinate back and forth between the two. There are extremes in both case as well as mild. Whether we are mentally ill or bodily ill God is not worshiped or does not heal by human hands . As Christian we can have the mind of Christ to help us heal or move other to perform his will..

Cessationists are picky. They know the Holy Spirit is still bringing his gifts as he moves men to both will and do His good purpose. He also so knows how to warn us of those who would say ...."thus sayeth the lord" or "Lo is Christ is here or there as if he was still bringing new revelations.

Before his last new revelation we looked through a dark glass. This was until the last new revelation as His interpretation called the book of Revelation was was complete/perfect He has sealed up the possibly for another word, jot or tittle .

Tongues are prophecy together the understanding coming from God..not from the church

Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.1Co 13:13

Now we have the whole/perfect will of God without any laws missing by which we could know him better. Tongues a language not known to the Jews was and is prophecy God interpreters his own understanding and is why it would be impossible to deceive them the elect with signs and lying wonders.

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

False prophets they are those who say they are receiving new revelations. His prophets heed his words of prophecy . They are given the prescription of the doctor of their souls to see more clear no more thus a dark glass . what they had it part we have the perfect it resist the plagues of this world.

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. Revelation22

.........End of story


It would seem easy for the elect who refuse to go above that which is written ,to try the spirits to see if they are of God or of men . Anyone that says thus sayeth the lord, the Lord has spoken to me auditory as a new revelation we are commanded to believe not , not not execute a faith as if it came from the true prophet

Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.Mat 24:25
 
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#30
The op is responding to the idea put forth in another thread tying mental illness to the gifts or cessationists. ( can't remember which)
Ah Ha! Loss of memory. A sure sign of mental illness.
 
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#31
this is supposed to be a Christian website. Not a site where people are mocked and bashed who don't agree with others doctrine. This place is to be for edification and uplifting one another up. Not to be insulted. No Christian should EVER do that. Whether I commented about the shooting or not the content of this thread is vile. This thread was obviously created to show contention. The content proves that. This didn't happen on accident.
I'm sorry that 7seas took you to task unnecessarily, especially in light of your tragic news while offering nothing in Christian attitude or support. We will pray for you and those mentioned. God bless.
 
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It has become my belief that not all sickness is a spirit but all are caused by them. And sometimes people who have mental problems have a spirit. In that case the spirit is the real problem and everything else is just symptoms. Other times they just need healing,whether by prayer or laying on of hands.
 
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joefizz

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#35
What a nice Christian way to approach such a topic....


You know, I logged on here today to request prayers for my cousin and his congregation. There was a mass shooting at a church in Tennessee yesterday. My cousin was the minister there. He, his wife, along with others were shot. One lady died. I came here to ask for prays for not only the victims but the shooter. After this vile thread im very discouraged.
Well I'm from Tennessee no matter what threads appear,I still pray nonetheless,don't get discouraged a fare few ridiculous or offensive threads pop up every now and then,just do what God would want you to do,if you pay attention to people enough their ideas may trouble you but when you focus on God then you can do right and not be troubled.
 

hornetguy

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I think the OP has proven he has the "gift" of offensive and child-like, un-Christian behavior.

I forget which scripture that is....

What a twit.... smh
 

tourist

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I was wondering how many of you who are cessationists, who do not believe in I Corinthians 12 gifts operating in this day and age have been diagnosed or have ever demonstrated symptoms of mental illness.
How are these things related to each other?
 

hornetguy

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#38
What a nice Christian way to approach such a topic....


You know, I logged on here today to request prayers for my cousin and his congregation. There was a mass shooting at a church in Tennessee yesterday. My cousin was the minister there. He, his wife, along with others were shot. One lady died. I came here to ask for prays for not only the victims but the shooter. After this vile thread im very discouraged.
I have already, and will continue to include them in my prayers.. and you, as well.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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#39
this is supposed to be a Christian website. Not a site where people are mocked and bashed who don't agree with others doctrine. This place is to be for edification and uplifting one another up. Not to be insulted. No Christian should EVER do that. Whether I commented about the shooting or not the content of this thread is vile. This thread was obviously created to show contention. The content proves that. This didn't happen on accident.

it is my understanding that this IS a Christian website

it's Christian Chat

the content of this thread is not vile. you don't know what it is about, but some of us do.

you are judging and not with sound judgement. how many hours have you spent in prayer for the people devastated by hurricane Maria? or Irma? 24/7, there is some sort of tragedy somewhere in the world where Christians are affected and most go by quietly unless they appear in the news forum,.

how about the earthquake in Mexico? over 300 dead I believe? this is the world we are living in and it is a sinful world but God is merciful in the mist of it

when a tragedy strikes close to home, we are all about being serious. on another day, we find humor

don't judge everyone by your current perspective.

when you tell everyone on here who has ever told a joke...especially in the singles forum...and berated them and they immediately turn around and accept your judgement and the entire forum becomes somber, then you may have something
 
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it is my understanding that this IS a Christian website

it's Christian Chat

the content of this thread is not vile. you don't know what it is about, but some of us do.

you are judging and not with sound judgement. how many hours have you spent in prayer for the people devastated by hurricane Maria? or Irma? 24/7, there is some sort of tragedy somewhere in the world where Christians are affected and most go by quietly unless they appear in the news forum,.

how about the earthquake in Mexico? over 300 dead I believe? this is the world we are living in and it is a sinful world but God is merciful in the mist of it

when a tragedy strikes close to home, we are all about being serious. on another day, we find humor

don't judge everyone by your current perspective.
Are you ok? i am concerned for your emotional health. The way you seem so on edge and jumpy mimics someone who is emotionally breaking or at least something similar.